Permanently ban cafe IP if many cheaters caught

[getrektdude]

Range ban PH to relive the interesting and challenging gameplay we had in the past. 90% PH cafe players are aimbotters which affects our gameplay very badly and thus, forces us to rage quit from the server

+1 full support

Oh so you think a range ban would relive the interesting game play you had? You have to understand that there are lots of cool games currently and this is an old game. And about the aimbotters who you said that affects your gameplay, are you that tired to report and record a video of a guy who you are accusing?

For what purpose should we record them at this point? just for them to reboot their routers and come back very next day and then pretend like they never knew who the banned aimbotter was?
Lets say we record such players, we forward them to admins, admins spend countless hours investigating the accused player and then they finally place a ban on that specific "user".
....its over? no.
User reboots internet and we have a new account which will result in the whole cycle being repeated, defeats the purpose of having banned users if they're just going to switch accounts which they have been for quite some time now, its pointless to record them.

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Range ban on a whole country isn't going to do any good, for obvious reasons.
Bans won't bring back any experience, its 2021, users have moved on to other games which are far more interesting and some bans won't make them interested in samp again.

Targeting specific cafe IPs would be a viable option if we take this suggestion for what it is really intended for instead of dragging entire PH population into this.
If a cafe has been involved in multiple cheating situations, letting their IP remain unbanned is really bad for server's quality, it would be totally justified to range ban those 'specific cafes'.

[Crazymix]

Range ban PH to relive the interesting and challenging gameplay we had in the past. 90% PH cafe players are aimbotters which affects our gameplay very badly and thus, forces us to rage quit from the server

+1 full support

Oh so you think a range ban would relive the interesting game play you had? You have to understand that there are lots of cool games currently and this is an old game. And about the aimbotters who you said that affects your gameplay, are you that tired to report and record a video of a guy who you are accusing?

For what purpose should we record them at this point? just for them to reboot their routers and come back very next day and then pretend like they never knew who the banned aimbotter was?
Lets say we record such players, we forward them to admins, admins spend countless hours investigating the accused player and then they finally place a ban on that specific "user".
....its over? no.
User reboots internet and we have a new account which will result in the whole cycle being repeated, defeats the purpose of having banned users if they're just going to switch accounts which they have been for quite some time now, its pointless to record them.

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Range ban on a whole country isn't going to do any good, for obvious reasons.
Bans won't bring back any experience, its 2021, users have moved on to other games which are far more interesting and some bans won't make them interested in samp again.

Targeting specific cafe IPs would be a viable option if we take this suggestion for what it is really intended for instead of dragging entire PH population into this.
If a cafe has been involved in multiple cheating situations, letting their IP remain unbanned is really bad for server's quality, it would be totally justified to range ban those 'specific cafes'.

I used to play in a cafe when I was playing LSRCR and as a normal cafe player you dont have the right to restart or reboot their router. Even if you wish to reboot it they wont do it just for the sake of the game you are playing. There are lots of players who play different games in a single cafe, no owner would give a single fuck about your game.
And I dont think administrators would be that lazy to ban a player repeatedly, its their job and duty. Well yeah we got lots of important things to do in real life, but its still part of their duties in the server anyways.

[getrektdude]

Oh so you think a range ban would relive the interesting game play you had? You have to understand that there are lots of cool games currently and this is an old game. And about the aimbotters who you said that affects your gameplay, are you that tired to report and record a video of a guy who you are accusing?

For what purpose should we record them at this point? just for them to reboot their routers and come back very next day and then pretend like they never knew who the banned aimbotter was?
Lets say we record such players, we forward them to admins, admins spend countless hours investigating the accused player and then they finally place a ban on that specific "user".
....its over? no.
User reboots internet and we have a new account which will result in the whole cycle being repeated, defeats the purpose of having banned users if they're just going to switch accounts which they have been for quite some time now, its pointless to record them.

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Range ban on a whole country isn't going to do any good, for obvious reasons.
Bans won't bring back any experience, its 2021, users have moved on to other games which are far more interesting and some bans won't make them interested in samp again.

Targeting specific cafe IPs would be a viable option if we take this suggestion for what it is really intended for instead of dragging entire PH population into this.
If a cafe has been involved in multiple cheating situations, letting their IP remain unbanned is really bad for server's quality, it would be totally justified to range ban those 'specific cafes'.

I used to play in a cafe when I was playing LSRCR and as a normal cafe player you dont have the right to restart or reboot their router. Even if you wish to reboot it they wont do it just for the sake of the game you are playing. There are lots of players who play different games in a single cafe, no owner would give a single fuck about your game.
And I dont think administrators would be that lazy to ban a player repeatedly, its their job and duty. Well yeah we got lots of important things to do in real life, but its still part of their duties in the server anyways.

It doesn't matter if your cafe allowed that or not, the current state of server tells different story.
It's not only about admins having to repeatedly banning a user its more about REGULAR players having to suffer with all that shit all over again.

[Unlucky...]

Your name: [Lsrcr]BeatEn
Suggestion headline: Permanently ban a cafe's IP if multiple cheaters are caught from that cafe
Importance of suggestion: 10/10
Why should it be accepted: As the title suggests, admins should be allowed to permanently ban a cafe's IP address if we catch (let's say) 3 or more cheaters from that cafe. Why? Because you can never know that who was behind the screen using cheats, and most importantly, it's completely useless to ban a single account in a cafe. They can restart their router and claim that some one else was cheating every single time. This makes it extremely easy for cafe players to use tools like aimbot, keybinds, teleport and every possible cheat you could think of. I don't know WHY is it allowed for them to cheat anytime they want and get away with it?? If there is 1 cafe and 4 players, how could you possibly know that who is cheating? And most importantly, how can the cafe members claim that they didn't know that who was cheating? Like do people randomly come to their cafe, open SAMP and think, "Oh yeah, this server be fine, let me install aimbot and destroy everyone's playing experience". And each day, someone comes, uses cheats and gets banned. Then other players of the cafe make an unban application, "Sorry, we didn't know someone was using cheats". Yeah sure...... random people walking on the street decided to check out the cafe, then SAMP, installed cheats, and abused them on LSRCR. Pretty believable... It's pretty obvious, and even admins know that, it was one of the existing player who uses cheats on an alternative account for fun, gets banned, abuses the cafe system because currently you don't ban cafe's IP address, only the account and then comes clean on his main, and you will never ever know who it was. It's better to permanently suspend LSRCR's service to such cafes. If this is implemented, I guarantee the number of aimbotters and keybinders would decrease.

Also, it's completely useless to gather evidence against cafe cheaters;
1. because catching a cheater (mostly aimbotter) requires extremely solid evidence, which takes a very long time to gather;
2. even if you are able to catch them, they are going to come back with a new account and a stronger toggle-able un-detectable German engineered aimbot, and guess what? you won't be able to do anything about it, repeat from step 1, forever

If you think that it's easy to expose a ban evader, cheater, haxer, aliens , then you're wrong man, stop being smart when you don't know how the cafe works, If you'll expose those evaders, then you won;t be able to play on the cafe anymore, they'll smash your ass btw that's why sometimes, we choose to keep silent to avoid trouble hehe In short we do not war, we want peace ;D

Also There are still cafe players who didn't use aimbots,cheats but still got banned for aimbotting realtalk

[Karu_Tepes]

Your name: [Lsrcr]BeatEn
Suggestion headline: Permanently ban a cafe's IP if multiple cheaters are caught from that cafe
Importance of suggestion: 10/10
Why should it be accepted: As the title suggests, admins should be allowed to permanently ban a cafe's IP address if we catch (let's say) 3 or more cheaters from that cafe. Why? Because you can never know that who was behind the screen using cheats, and most importantly, it's completely useless to ban a single account in a cafe. They can restart their router and claim that some one else was cheating every single time. This makes it extremely easy for cafe players to use tools like aimbot, keybinds, teleport and every possible cheat you could think of. I don't know WHY is it allowed for them to cheat anytime they want and get away with it?? If there is 1 cafe and 4 players, how could you possibly know that who is cheating? And most importantly, how can the cafe members claim that they didn't know that who was cheating? Like do people randomly come to their cafe, open SAMP and think, "Oh yeah, this server be fine, let me install aimbot and destroy everyone's playing experience". And each day, someone comes, uses cheats and gets banned. Then other players of the cafe make an unban application, "Sorry, we didn't know someone was using cheats". Yeah sure...... random people walking on the street decided to check out the cafe, then SAMP, installed cheats, and abused them on LSRCR. Pretty believable... It's pretty obvious, and even admins know that, it was one of the existing player who uses cheats on an alternative account for fun, gets banned, abuses the cafe system because currently you don't ban cafe's IP address, only the account and then comes clean on his main, and you will never ever know who it was. It's better to permanently suspend LSRCR's service to such cafes. If this is implemented, I guarantee the number of aimbotters and keybinders would decrease.

Also, it's completely useless to gather evidence against cafe cheaters;
1. because catching a cheater (mostly aimbotter) requires extremely solid evidence, which takes a very long time to gather;
2. even if you are able to catch them, they are going to come back with a new account and a stronger toggle-able un-detectable German engineered aimbot, and guess what? you won't be able to do anything about it, repeat from step 1, forever

If you think that it's easy to expose a ban evader, cheater, haxer, aliens , then you're wrong man, stop being smart when you don't know how the cafe works, If you'll expose those evaders, then you won;t be able to play on the cafe anymore, they'll smash your ass btw that's why sometimes, we choose to keep silent to avoid trouble hehe In short we do not war, we want peace ;D

Also There are still cafe players who didn't use aimbots,cheats but still got banned for aimbotting realtalk

Make a choice a then...

A) Report the cheaters and keep your cafe open
B) Hide your cheaters because you're scared of some other kids and also be banned for admitting to knowingly hiding cheaters

[Unlucky...]

Your name: [Lsrcr]BeatEn
Suggestion headline: Permanently ban a cafe's IP if multiple cheaters are caught from that cafe
Importance of suggestion: 10/10
Why should it be accepted: As the title suggests, admins should be allowed to permanently ban a cafe's IP address if we catch (let's say) 3 or more cheaters from that cafe. Why? Because you can never know that who was behind the screen using cheats, and most importantly, it's completely useless to ban a single account in a cafe. They can restart their router and claim that some one else was cheating every single time. This makes it extremely easy for cafe players to use tools like aimbot, keybinds, teleport and every possible cheat you could think of. I don't know WHY is it allowed for them to cheat anytime they want and get away with it?? If there is 1 cafe and 4 players, how could you possibly know that who is cheating? And most importantly, how can the cafe members claim that they didn't know that who was cheating? Like do people randomly come to their cafe, open SAMP and think, "Oh yeah, this server be fine, let me install aimbot and destroy everyone's playing experience". And each day, someone comes, uses cheats and gets banned. Then other players of the cafe make an unban application, "Sorry, we didn't know someone was using cheats". Yeah sure...... random people walking on the street decided to check out the cafe, then SAMP, installed cheats, and abused them on LSRCR. Pretty believable... It's pretty obvious, and even admins know that, it was one of the existing player who uses cheats on an alternative account for fun, gets banned, abuses the cafe system because currently you don't ban cafe's IP address, only the account and then comes clean on his main, and you will never ever know who it was. It's better to permanently suspend LSRCR's service to such cafes. If this is implemented, I guarantee the number of aimbotters and keybinders would decrease.

Also, it's completely useless to gather evidence against cafe cheaters;
1. because catching a cheater (mostly aimbotter) requires extremely solid evidence, which takes a very long time to gather;
2. even if you are able to catch them, they are going to come back with a new account and a stronger toggle-able un-detectable German engineered aimbot, and guess what? you won't be able to do anything about it, repeat from step 1, forever

If you think that it's easy to expose a ban evader, cheater, haxer, aliens , then you're wrong man, stop being smart when you don't know how the cafe works, If you'll expose those evaders, then you won;t be able to play on the cafe anymore, they'll smash your ass btw that's why sometimes, we choose to keep silent to avoid trouble hehe In short we do not war, we want peace ;D

Also There are still cafe players who didn't use aimbots,cheats but still got banned for aimbotting realtalk

Make a choice a then...

A) Report the cheaters and keep your cafe open
B) Hide your cheaters because you're scared of some other kids and also be banned for admitting to knowingly hiding cheaters

I'd choose Letter C. None of the above why should i report those evaders, when they aren't even playing on my cafe?

[Unlucky...]

Kinda unfair for people who plays normally. I mean, they could play into another cafe but who knows they might only have 1 internet cafe from their area.

Give computer and internet connection yes

^

[Unlucky...]

OKAY

PH ARE THE ONE WHY THE SERVER STILL ACTIVE

Everyone of you saying "ph are the reason this server is alive", absolutely wrong..
Donations are the reason this server is alive. https://ls-rcr.com/donate, go here, you will see the reason why this server is alive. As long as the server gets enough donations, it will run. PH contributes to the playerbase, contributes in degrading the quality of the playerbase. People know that there is a cheater in their cafe, yet they let him play and then when he gets banned, they make an unban application saying that "we didn't know blabla", which is totally bs.
And I didn't suggest to instant ban your cafes? I have suggested to ban only if we find many cheaters from a single cafe, now why are you all so scared? Because some of you won't be able to make alternative accounts to cheat? If one cheater from your cafe is found, just don't let him play, as simple as that. What is such a big deal in this? You all are acting like you all will be banned within a day, which I think is true if this gets implemented.

We're just scared to people who owns the cafe, IP ban = No customers

[BeaTen.]

Spoiler: show

Your name: [Lsrcr]BeatEn
Suggestion headline: Permanently ban a cafe's IP if multiple cheaters are caught from that cafe
Importance of suggestion: 10/10
Why should it be accepted: As the title suggests, admins should be allowed to permanently ban a cafe's IP address if we catch (let's say) 3 or more cheaters from that cafe. Why? Because you can never know that who was behind the screen using cheats, and most importantly, it's completely useless to ban a single account in a cafe. They can restart their router and claim that some one else was cheating every single time. This makes it extremely easy for cafe players to use tools like aimbot, keybinds, teleport and every possible cheat you could think of. I don't know WHY is it allowed for them to cheat anytime they want and get away with it?? If there is 1 cafe and 4 players, how could you possibly know that who is cheating? And most importantly, how can the cafe members claim that they didn't know that who was cheating? Like do people randomly come to their cafe, open SAMP and think, "Oh yeah, this server be fine, let me install aimbot and destroy everyone's playing experience". And each day, someone comes, uses cheats and gets banned. Then other players of the cafe make an unban application, "Sorry, we didn't know someone was using cheats". Yeah sure...... random people walking on the street decided to check out the cafe, then SAMP, installed cheats, and abused them on LSRCR. Pretty believable... It's pretty obvious, and even admins know that, it was one of the existing player who uses cheats on an alternative account for fun, gets banned, abuses the cafe system because currently you don't ban cafe's IP address, only the account and then comes clean on his main, and you will never ever know who it was. It's better to permanently suspend LSRCR's service to such cafes. If this is implemented, I guarantee the number of aimbotters and keybinders would decrease.

Also, it's completely useless to gather evidence against cafe cheaters;
1. because catching a cheater (mostly aimbotter) requires extremely solid evidence, which takes a very long time to gather;
2. even if you are able to catch them, they are going to come back with a new account and a stronger toggle-able un-detectable German engineered aimbot, and guess what? you won't be able to do anything about it, repeat from step 1, forever

If you think that it's easy to expose a ban evader, cheater, haxer, aliens , then you're wrong man, stop being smart when you don't know how the cafe works, If you'll expose those evaders, then you won;t be able to play on the cafe anymore, they'll smash your ass btw that's why sometimes, we choose to keep silent to avoid trouble hehe In short we do not war, we want peace ;D

Also There are still cafe players who didn't use aimbots,cheats but still got banned for aimbotting realtalk

I know how a cafe works, we all know what happens inside a cafe. Stop being ignorant and denying the fact that you all assist cheaters. I can prove that you are account sharing just by looking at your English above and your english here;

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OKAY

PH ARE THE ONE WHY THE SERVER STILL ACTIVE

Just like your aiming skills, your English took a massive jump and drastically improved within days. You guys have so much talent, can master god aim and good English within days.
Even for a second if I believe you, I still don't care if we get no players from a cafe where people make alternative accounts just to use cheats / DM / ask for rights.
I will say it again, I would rather play with 10 players where none of them is abusing their 'cafe' and using cheats / annoying instead of playing with 20 players where most of the people are undercover and only there to cause trouble.
Also, I would like to know the names of the people who were banned for aimbot but were not using aimbot please. You seem to know many such players, so please enlighten me.

[Panadol]

Spoiler: show

Your name: [Lsrcr]BeatEn
Suggestion headline: Permanently ban a cafe's IP if multiple cheaters are caught from that cafe
Importance of suggestion: 10/10
Why should it be accepted: As the title suggests, admins should be allowed to permanently ban a cafe's IP address if we catch (let's say) 3 or more cheaters from that cafe. Why? Because you can never know that who was behind the screen using cheats, and most importantly, it's completely useless to ban a single account in a cafe. They can restart their router and claim that some one else was cheating every single time. This makes it extremely easy for cafe players to use tools like aimbot, keybinds, teleport and every possible cheat you could think of. I don't know WHY is it allowed for them to cheat anytime they want and get away with it?? If there is 1 cafe and 4 players, how could you possibly know that who is cheating? And most importantly, how can the cafe members claim that they didn't know that who was cheating? Like do people randomly come to their cafe, open SAMP and think, "Oh yeah, this server be fine, let me install aimbot and destroy everyone's playing experience". And each day, someone comes, uses cheats and gets banned. Then other players of the cafe make an unban application, "Sorry, we didn't know someone was using cheats". Yeah sure...... random people walking on the street decided to check out the cafe, then SAMP, installed cheats, and abused them on LSRCR. Pretty believable... It's pretty obvious, and even admins know that, it was one of the existing player who uses cheats on an alternative account for fun, gets banned, abuses the cafe system because currently you don't ban cafe's IP address, only the account and then comes clean on his main, and you will never ever know who it was. It's better to permanently suspend LSRCR's service to such cafes. If this is implemented, I guarantee the number of aimbotters and keybinders would decrease.

Also, it's completely useless to gather evidence against cafe cheaters;
1. because catching a cheater (mostly aimbotter) requires extremely solid evidence, which takes a very long time to gather;
2. even if you are able to catch them, they are going to come back with a new account and a stronger toggle-able un-detectable German engineered aimbot, and guess what? you won't be able to do anything about it, repeat from step 1, forever

If you think that it's easy to expose a ban evader, cheater, haxer, aliens , then you're wrong man, stop being smart when you don't know how the cafe works, If you'll expose those evaders, then you won;t be able to play on the cafe anymore, they'll smash your ass btw that's why sometimes, we choose to keep silent to avoid trouble hehe In short we do not war, we want peace ;D

Also There are still cafe players who didn't use aimbots,cheats but still got banned for aimbotting realtalk

I know how a cafe works, we all know what happens inside a cafe. Stop being ignorant and denying the fact that you all assist cheaters. I can prove that you are account sharing just by looking at your English above and your english here;

Spoiler: show

OKAY

PH ARE THE ONE WHY THE SERVER STILL ACTIVE

Just like your aiming skills, your English took a massive jump and drastically improved within days. You guys have so much talent, can master god aim and good English within days.
Even for a second if I believe you, I still don't care if we get no players from a cafe where people make alternative accounts just to use cheats / DM / ask for rights.
I will say it again, I would rather play with 10 players where none of them is abusing their 'cafe' and using cheats / annoying instead of playing with 20 players where most of the people are undercover and only there to cause trouble.
Also, I would like to know the names of the people who were banned for aimbot but were not using aimbot please. You seem to know many such players, so please enlighten me.

I hope your suggestion get accepted because I am with you and I feel you and I really want the same of what you want.