WHO THE REAL SLAVES ARE

[Cheese]

Money is what makes people happy because it's what everyone needs in order to survive.

Yes, to survive. Not to thrive.

Yeah, you can say money is the root of all evil but that only applies to those who believe they can never have enough.

Exactly. It's the love of money that is the root of all evil.

[i.am.Juice]

I'm not talking about millions and millions of dollars, fame and fortune. I'm talking about the money that you get for you hard work. You spend it on something and that something makes you happy. Money makes you happy. I really doubt you are going to be happy if you live in a rotten shack with your kids and wife. You'll feel miserable, even though you are with your family. You can't bring happiness to them or yourself, because you don't have money.

I agree, because without God you won't ever truly be happy without artificial worldly happiness.
So you cling to fake happiness like money, drugs, luxury cars and jewelry because you lack REAL happiness. [God]
Once you become addicted to FAKE happiness you turn those objects into your god and worship them daily.

Money is what makes people happy because it's what everyone needs in order to survive.

I 100% disagree.

Matthew 4:4 - Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.'"

And you believing money is the only way to survive shows me they have brainwashed you very well to believe the opposite of what the bible teach. They were successful in tricking you man. If God wasnt merciful he can take your BREATH away right now and you die.. who cares if you have a million dollars you would be dead. Instead you are choosing money as the reason you wake up every morning. Just like billions of others give that same credit to God.

For example, each year in my city homeless people die. Why? They can't afford to buy materials to live through the winter. The government has had to step in and take care of this issue by building homeless centers where they are allowed to stay during harsh conditions. Thats good, they should have that because they created money which created poor and rich people. They are to blame anyways. They don't deserve a thank you. Thats like me training murderers then I open a shelter for there family members who was murdered. Sure it looks good on the outside but the truth is It would be my fault it exists. How was this possible? Using money. Yeah, you can say money is the root of all evil MAN.. you missing a critical word there, I never EVER said money is evil get that crazy idea 238923476348634637863w78463897w6736389638634634654783638976386 MILES AWAY FROM YOUR MIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL having money and loving money ARE NOT THE SAME. but that only applies to those who believe they can never have enough.

[Sk1pper]

I'm not talking about millions and millions of dollars, fame and fortune. I'm talking about the money that you get for you hard work. You spend it on something and that something makes you happy. Money makes you happy. I really doubt you are going to be happy if you live in a rotten shack with your kids and wife. You'll feel miserable, even though you are with your family. You can't bring happiness to them or yourself, because you don't have money.

I agree, because without God you won't ever truly be happy without artificial worldly happiness.
So you cling to fake happiness like money, drugs, luxury cars and jewelry because you lack REAL happiness. [God]
Once you become addicted to FAKE happiness you turn those objects into your god and worship them daily.

I am the happiest man on the planet and I don't believe in god.

[Barkman]

I normally don't get involved in this kind of stuff, but I feel like you saying money makes us slaves is wrong. My family has been struggling financially for years. I am thankful for everyday I get to live in this house, Just because you have a bit of extra money and you use it for the right reasons doesn't make you a slave to it. If i ever had money, I would make sure my future family doesn't have to suffer through what i went through. I could care less about material possesions. I am just asking Juice, dont acuse some people who want money that they are salves. I only want some money so my family doesn't have to be troubled as I was growing up. I'm not trying to aruge with you, I'm just saying what I think you are saying is wrong. I am trying to keep an open mind. I am a Christian, and I know material things don't matter in the end, but I don't know if you have ever been financially in distress, it's a horrible thing watching family memebers struggle over bills and to keep me in school.

[i.am.Juice]

I'm not talking about millions and millions of dollars, fame and fortune. I'm talking about the money that you get for you hard work. You spend it on something and that something makes you happy. Money makes you happy. I really doubt you are going to be happy if you live in a rotten shack with your kids and wife. You'll feel miserable, even though you are with your family. You can't bring happiness to them or yourself, because you don't have money.

I agree, because without God you won't ever truly be happy without artificial worldly happiness.
So you cling to fake happiness like money, drugs, luxury cars and jewelry because you lack REAL happiness. [God]
Once you become addicted to FAKE happiness you turn those objects into your god and worship them daily.

I am the happiest man on the planet and I don't believe in god.

1. you haven't met every man to just elect yourself as the happiest man on the planet.

2. The happiest man has no problems with anything in life. Looking at your ava you have a problem with the nati.
The happiest man has a huge smile on his face right now. I'm pretty sure you do not. I did get to lol though.

I normally don't get involved in this kind of stuff, but I feel like you saying money makes [made] us slaves is wrong. My family has been struggling financially for years. [without the creation of money you would never be going through that] I am thankful for everyday I get to live in this house, Just because you have a bit of extra money and you use it for the right reasons doesn't make you a slave to it. [yea the RIGHT reasons but we're discussing negative things like drugs] If i ever had money, I would make sure my future family doesn't have to suffer through what i went through. I could care less about material possesions. I am just asking Juice, dont acuse some people who want money that they are salves. [I'm accusing no one, Its a reality check. We speak openly around this part of the forum and its no punches held, no lies told. At least thats what I come here and do.] I only want some money so my family doesn't have to be troubled as I was growing up. I'm not trying to aruge with you, I'm just saying what I think you are saying is wrong. [no problem, you misunderstood me] I am trying to keep an open mind. I am a Christian, and I know material things don't matter in the end, but I don't know if you have ever been financially in distress, [as a kid yea, grew up in the hood, on the corner of one of the worse streets in my town. Gun shots, fighting, even seen a ambulance flip over. We had roaches and rats. Been homeless, and left with no choice but to get free meals at local churches. Nothing wrong with having, or wanting money but the minute you feel it is your reason for life and your LOVE you are worshiping THE DEVIL. No if, ands, or buts about it.] it's a horrible thing watching family memebers struggle over bills and to keep me in school.

[Sk1pper]

1. you haven't met every man to just elect yourself as the happiest man on the planet.

2. The happiest man has no problems with anything in life. Looking at your ava you have a problem with the nati.
The happiest man has a huge smile on his face right now. I'm pretty sure you do not. I did get to lol though.

I see that even stating that I am simply a happy person wouldn't be enough for you. You know very well what does "happiest man on the planet" mean, so don't twist it into a literal meaning. I am happy and I do not need god or devil for that.

[i.am.Juice]

1. you haven't met every man to just elect yourself as the happiest man on the planet.

2. The happiest man has no problems with anything in life. Looking at your ava you have a problem with the nati.
The happiest man has a huge smile on his face right now. I'm pretty sure you do not. I did get to lol though.

I see that even stating that I am simply a happy person wouldn't be enough for you. You know very well what does "happiest man on the planet" mean, so don't twist it into a literal meaning. I am happy and I do not need god or devil for that.

Yeah and you prove not to be the happiest man on earth. I guess you thought it would be fun to say but too bad its false. A lot of people settle for FAKE, artificial happiness, you are not alone. Just like a lot of people receive TRUE happiness in life and I am not alone.

[Sk1pper]

1. you haven't met every man to just elect yourself as the happiest man on the planet.

2. The happiest man has no problems with anything in life. Looking at your ava you have a problem with the nati.
The happiest man has a huge smile on his face right now. I'm pretty sure you do not. I did get to lol though.

I see that even stating that I am simply a happy person wouldn't be enough for you. You know very well what does "happiest man on the planet" mean, so don't twist it into a literal meaning. I am happy and I do not need god or devil for that.

fair enough man, a lot of people settle for FAKE, artificial happiness, you are not alone.

Sigh.. Nothing new from your side, Juice. You make up stuff man, why do you do that?
I said that money brings people happiness, you cannot disprove it because it brings happiness to you as well, name me one person who can be fully happy and have no money. There is no such human on this planet. ( unless someone in the woods idk maybe wild people are happy ). Family is the main source of happiness. You cannot be happy with loads of money but with a lonely heart. You judged me just because I claimed that money is the source of happiness, yes, it is, but not the only one, not the MAIN one. On the other hand, you can't be happy with your family but without a single dime. These two things are connected. I don't even know why I am writing all of this because this is common sense.

[i.am.Juice]

Sigh.. Nothing new from your side, Juice. You make up stuff man, why do you do that? I don't. And I'd love for you to quote where I did or YOU are making up stuff
I said that money brings people happiness, you cannot disprove it because it brings happiness to you as well, AND it has brought me great pain and anger when family members of mine lost there lives for it. And its still artificial happiness because it depletes and can be spent. Money runs out bro as you WILL learn in life. God is for EVER and NEVER runs out. name me one person who can be fully happy and have no money. Jesus. This statement you made shows a great love for money you have. It would be fair to say you love money correct? There is no such human on this planet. ( unless someone in the woods idk maybe wild people are happy ). Family is the main source of happiness. ok now you changing your story up, I feel it coming. You cannot be happy with loads of money YOUR STORY HAS COMPLETELY CHANGED. Only thing I don't like about your character is you are never positive on things you say. Always unsure. but with a lonely heart. You judged me just because I claimed that money is the source of happiness, yes, it is, "THE SOURCE"?? Negative. but not the only one, ]not the MAIN one. No one is judging you, if you feel like I'm judging you its just a GUILTY conscience eating away at you. On the other hand, you can't be happy with your family but without a single dime. You just said money isnt the ONLY, or The main source now you going to go back on it again and saying without it you CAN'T be happy. Its simple man, Like many others on this planet you've been brainwashed. & Dude your family sucks then, you guys need money just to be happy? what about love, living, affection and conversation? Man I'm feeling "happier" NOT to be anything like you. These two things are connected. I don't even know why I am writing all of this because this is common sense. for who? lucifer?

I also get the idea you've never been in love with a girl, because when you do experience that you wont say stuff like that any more. You'll realize just having each other equals TOTAL HAPPINESS. And God is the last peice to that puzzle bro. No amount of money can change that.

[Sk1pper]

fair enough man, a lot of people settle for FAKE, artificial happiness, you are not alone.

<= That. You don't know me to say something like that, therefore it's made up.

AND it has brought me great pain and anger when family members of mine lost there lives for it. And its still artificial happiness because it depletes and can be spent. Money runs out bro as you WILL learn in life. God is for EVER and NEVER runs out.

Then learn to use money. Get this.. You work, use your skills/abilities and get money. Then you use the money to get something you want. It can be anything you desire as long as you can afford the price. You get the thing and you're happy with it. It's not like you get the paper and you're happy with it, no, you're happy only when you get the thing you wanted WITH that money. It's connected, that's why I'm telling you that money brings us happiness. Jesus is bullshit because you have it made up in your mind. You cannot even think of something against the idea that god is real, you are afraid.
Work - money - desired things - happiness. Simple and you cannot deny it. You wouldn't say that money is evil if it wouldn't exist, if people would trade things. But that would be the same thing if people would receive things they desire for their work instead of money, it's just skipping one part (money) and getting straight to the things you want.
Stick this simple thing in your head that without a single coin you'll be a bum and with or without your family you will not be happy. I am realist and I don't say that you can be happy in any kind of violent, cruel, awful, poor environment but with your family. It's nonsense. My family doesn't suck. There is love in my home and we love each other, we have things we desire, yes, there are things that look awesome ( a new TV for example ), but I don't care about it that much and as long as my family is safe and together I am happy, because that's all that matters right now.