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Post by Indognito » March 8, 2018, 1:50 pm
CXdur wrote:
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I think you mis understood my point, I wasn’t labeling lsrcr as anything or saying lsrcr is built for profit of the admin team I was simply explaining what making everything donate only looks like to players who come, and expressing points where other communities have went overboard so that the people can know what it looks like, I’m not exaggerating nothing I think you should proof read or if anything ask questions before jumping to conclusions since it makes you look bad when You have to constantly jump to conclusions and try to tell me what I’m doing when simple questions could have prevented this and have you better informed of what I was saying, I am entitled as everyone else here to vote on these suggestions and express my views on how I feel about them.
Perhaps I didn't understand your point, you are right, but there might be other players who did not either. I know you didn't say that LSRCR was built for profit, but you did compare it to servers who I believe are built for profit, and essentially said that we are heading this direction (and that we aren't now, we would be if we were to accept this). I do think you are exaggerating when you compare us to such servers, even if you state that Lsrcr isn't like that, you are saying that we are heading in this direction, and if you are not stating this, why would you bring it up?

You are also saying it's useless as a donation item and that we could risk new comers leaving if we are to add something like this, and that you have personally seen it on servers that were donation based, where they push "you have to donate or you are not getting shit". LSRCR isn't anything like that and that's why I reacted, it's not a comparison that I can even remotely recognize LSRCR in or agree with.

I did proof read it, and again the comparisons are what made me react. I never jumped to a conclusion and I wouldn't even have been able to know for sure why you compared Lsrcr to such servers, all I know is that you did and therefore I felt it was necessary to clarify what our donations actually go to. I knew there was a chance that you were already aware of this, but I thought I would clarify, because even if you did not know, there could be other players who don't and would have a bad reaction from your reply. You should understand that there are a lot of players on these forums, quite a bunch of them are new players as well, and if they don't know too much and they see this, they might think we indeed are like such servers. My point is even if you didn't need to hear this, there might be others who do, especially after reading your reply.

Yes, of course you are, but I still believe your comparisons are way off and that they are not appropriate. I really appreciate your views on suggestions, and you have been quite helpful and active in this section for a long time. I never said you weren't entitled to post here, I am not sure why you would assume that I feel you aren't, because as I stated above I really do appreciate detailed feedback like you write, and I have always read your replies and taken them into account, and I will also say that you are often a lot more detailed than others. Not all of my reply was directly targeted to you, it was also targeted to people who could potentially be confused by your reply.

Let's stay on topic however, if you have any more to say about what we wrote above I suggest you PM me.
Players seem to appreciate this suggestion but I am still not completely sure about it. I want more opinions on this, and I also have to agree with Indognito that it might not necessarily need to be strictly reserved to people who purchase it for donator points. We could for instance also include veteran players with tags, tagged members, I do not really know, it is something to take into consideration. Again, I would like to state that I am not accepting/rejecting the suggestion, just throwing out ideas.




Okay I know you requested me to pm you but this is one of those things I feel will be better if posted publicly.



Point 1: “this is useless as a donated item” the reason I said this is because most players only care to drive an infernus, nrg, sultan out of the vehicles in the car shop. So even if it increased donations it’ll not be used unless if for bragging rights by the donators.

Point 2: reserving everything as donated only: a lot of players have great ideas but wouldn’t work as a donated items, and will even send the wrong message to the new players since they probably just left a donate only for anything server, they see elements of that and just leave with the opinion in quotes given.


Point 3 make it for everyone but limit the extra slots to just 1: this is because I felt that this was the best way to add the suggestion since this has been suggested before and is still a great idea though it’s your final decision as to what you wanted to do.

Point 4 the entitlement speech: this was placed generally to express that I have the same rights as others, when people go off on seemingly arrogant replies saying that people are exaggerating and embarking on views that seem malice to them they will post certain replies to discredit those who have a different viewpoint so because certain keywords were given I jumped the gun and went on the assassination onslaught (the assassnation thing was mainly for joking perposes plz no tak serious)

I wasn’t comparing lsrcr to any of the other servers I was essentially giving viewpoints of players who came from other game servers that were like this and having their thoughts in mind as well as the other players real thoughts rather then the simple +1 gret ideas asskissing ones.

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Post by Heisenberg » March 8, 2018, 1:54 pm
xDeadlyKiller wrote:
CXdur wrote:
Indognito wrote:
I think you mis understood my point, I wasn’t labeling lsrcr as anything or saying lsrcr is built for profit of the admin team I was simply explaining what making everything donate only looks like to players who come, and expressing points where other communities have went overboard so that the people can know what it looks like, I’m not exaggerating nothing I think you should proof read or if anything ask questions before jumping to conclusions since it makes you look bad when You have to constantly jump to conclusions and try to tell me what I’m doing when simple questions could have prevented this and have you better informed of what I was saying, I am entitled as everyone else here to vote on these suggestions and express my views on how I feel about them.
Perhaps I didn't understand your point, you are right, but there might be other players who did not either. I know you didn't say that LSRCR was built for profit, but you did compare it to servers who I believe are built for profit, and essentially said that we are heading this direction (and that we aren't now, we would be if we were to accept this). I do think you are exaggerating when you compare us to such servers, even if you state that Lsrcr isn't like that, you are saying that we are heading in this direction, and if you are not stating this, why would you bring it up?

You are also saying it's useless as a donation item and that we could risk new comers leaving if we are to add something like this, and that you have personally seen it on servers that were donation based, where they push "you have to donate or you are not getting shit". LSRCR isn't anything like that and that's why I reacted, it's not a comparison that I can even remotely recognize LSRCR in or agree with.

I did proof read it, and again the comparisons are what made me react. I never jumped to a conclusion and I wouldn't even have been able to know for sure why you compared Lsrcr to such servers, all I know is that you did and therefore I felt it was necessary to clarify what our donations actually go to. I knew there was a chance that you were already aware of this, but I thought I would clarify, because even if you did not know, there could be other players who don't and would have a bad reaction from your reply. You should understand that there are a lot of players on these forums, quite a bunch of them are new players as well, and if they don't know too much and they see this, they might think we indeed are like such servers. My point is even if you didn't need to hear this, there might be others who do, especially after reading your reply.

Yes, of course you are, but I still believe your comparisons are way off and that they are not appropriate. I really appreciate your views on suggestions, and you have been quite helpful and active in this section for a long time. I never said you weren't entitled to post here, I am not sure why you would assume that I feel you aren't, because as I stated above I really do appreciate detailed feedback like you write, and I have always read your replies and taken them into account, and I will also say that you are often a lot more detailed than others. Not all of my reply was directly targeted to you, it was also targeted to people who could potentially be confused by your reply.

Let's stay on topic however, if you have any more to say about what we wrote above I suggest you PM me.
Players seem to appreciate this suggestion but I am still not completely sure about it. I want more opinions on this, and I also have to agree with Indognito that it might not necessarily need to be strictly reserved to people who purchase it for donator points. We could for instance also include veteran players with tags, tagged members, I do not really know, it is something to take into consideration. Again, I would like to state that I am not accepting/rejecting the suggestion, just throwing out ideas.
If we were to restrict it to veteran members only then people will stat showing-off and all that. My opinion is limiting this tool to tagged members as if it's an item for tagged members only. To make it better, I say you remove the item from the player if he lost his tag.
Its already restricted to most of the people by keeping it in donating shop and now u r further restricting it by making it available to only tagged member NO WAY bruh why should tag members be given all the benefits keep some for others too. I would really like to see this, its up to devs if they want to keep it as a donated item or if they want to make this available to be purchased through ig-money. +1
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Post by Fady » March 8, 2018, 3:31 pm
Heisenberg wrote:
xDeadlyKiller wrote:
CXdur wrote:
Perhaps I didn't understand your point, you are right, but there might be other players who did not either. I know you didn't say that LSRCR was built for profit, but you did compare it to servers who I believe are built for profit, and essentially said that we are heading this direction (and that we aren't now, we would be if we were to accept this). I do think you are exaggerating when you compare us to such servers, even if you state that Lsrcr isn't like that, you are saying that we are heading in this direction, and if you are not stating this, why would you bring it up?

You are also saying it's useless as a donation item and that we could risk new comers leaving if we are to add something like this, and that you have personally seen it on servers that were donation based, where they push "you have to donate or you are not getting shit". LSRCR isn't anything like that and that's why I reacted, it's not a comparison that I can even remotely recognize LSRCR in or agree with.

I did proof read it, and again the comparisons are what made me react. I never jumped to a conclusion and I wouldn't even have been able to know for sure why you compared Lsrcr to such servers, all I know is that you did and therefore I felt it was necessary to clarify what our donations actually go to. I knew there was a chance that you were already aware of this, but I thought I would clarify, because even if you did not know, there could be other players who don't and would have a bad reaction from your reply. You should understand that there are a lot of players on these forums, quite a bunch of them are new players as well, and if they don't know too much and they see this, they might think we indeed are like such servers. My point is even if you didn't need to hear this, there might be others who do, especially after reading your reply.

Yes, of course you are, but I still believe your comparisons are way off and that they are not appropriate. I really appreciate your views on suggestions, and you have been quite helpful and active in this section for a long time. I never said you weren't entitled to post here, I am not sure why you would assume that I feel you aren't, because as I stated above I really do appreciate detailed feedback like you write, and I have always read your replies and taken them into account, and I will also say that you are often a lot more detailed than others. Not all of my reply was directly targeted to you, it was also targeted to people who could potentially be confused by your reply.

Let's stay on topic however, if you have any more to say about what we wrote above I suggest you PM me.
Players seem to appreciate this suggestion but I am still not completely sure about it. I want more opinions on this, and I also have to agree with Indognito that it might not necessarily need to be strictly reserved to people who purchase it for donator points. We could for instance also include veteran players with tags, tagged members, I do not really know, it is something to take into consideration. Again, I would like to state that I am not accepting/rejecting the suggestion, just throwing out ideas.
If we were to restrict it to veteran members only then people will stat showing-off and all that. My opinion is limiting this tool to tagged members as if it's an item for tagged members only. To make it better, I say you remove the item from the player if he lost his tag.
Its already restricted to most of the people by keeping it in donating shop and now u r further restricting it by making it available to only tagged member NO WAY bruh why should tag members be given all the benefits keep some for others too. I would really like to see this, its up to devs if they want to keep it as a donated item or if they want to make this available to be purchased through ig-money. +1
You can't really call it 'restricted' to tagged members only as any person with a fine attitude and good activity can obtain the tag, whereas not anyone can be a donator. If anyone has problems with his attitude that should be his fault and he/she should work on it. I'm saying that we should limit it to tagged players, aka community representatives, as they have done their job in maintaining a cool attitude. Think of it like this, if people got this item from donating or buying it through IG cash, then I can't list the amount of useless reports and heavy pressure on the staff team because of a person or two that are constantly showing off about it and whatnot

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Post by Heisenberg » March 8, 2018, 6:18 pm
xDeadlyKiller wrote:
Heisenberg wrote:
xDeadlyKiller wrote:
If we were to restrict it to veteran members only then people will stat showing-off and all that. My opinion is limiting this tool to tagged members as if it's an item for tagged members only. To make it better, I say you remove the item from the player if he lost his tag.
Its already restricted to most of the people by keeping it in donating shop and now u r further restricting it by making it available to only tagged member NO WAY bruh why should tag members be given all the benefits keep some for others too. I would really like to see this, its up to devs if they want to keep it as a donated item or if they want to make this available to be purchased through ig-money. +1
You can't really call it 'restricted' to tagged members only as any person with a fine attitude and good activity can obtain the tag, whereas not anyone can be a donator. If anyone has problems with his attitude that should be his fault and he/she should work on it. I'm saying that we should limit it to tagged players, aka community representatives, as they have done their job in maintaining a cool attitude. Think of it like this, if people got this item from donating or buying it through IG cash, then I can't list the amount of useless reports and heavy pressure on the staff team because of a person or two that are constantly showing off about it and whatnot
what if someone who has a fine attitude but he doesnt meet the requirements of tag wants to buy it ?
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Post by Fady » March 8, 2018, 6:21 pm
Heisenberg wrote:
xDeadlyKiller wrote:
Heisenberg wrote:

Its already restricted to most of the people by keeping it in donating shop and now u r further restricting it by making it available to only tagged member NO WAY bruh why should tag members be given all the benefits keep some for others too. I would really like to see this, its up to devs if they want to keep it as a donated item or if they want to make this available to be purchased through ig-money. +1
You can't really call it 'restricted' to tagged members only as any person with a fine attitude and good activity can obtain the tag, whereas not anyone can be a donator. If anyone has problems with his attitude that should be his fault and he/she should work on it. I'm saying that we should limit it to tagged players, aka community representatives, as they have done their job in maintaining a cool attitude. Think of it like this, if people got this item from donating or buying it through IG cash, then I can't list the amount of useless reports and heavy pressure on the staff team because of a person or two that are constantly showing off about it and whatnot
what if someone who has a fine attitude but he doesnt meet the requirements of tag wants to buy it ?
Then he can just wait and be patient till he meets the requirements, then he can apply for the tag.

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Post by Robin » March 8, 2018, 7:00 pm
If a player tows a 3rd vehicle, despawn the first one.
Why make everything so complicated.
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Post by Indognito » March 8, 2018, 11:19 pm
Heisenberg wrote:
xDeadlyKiller wrote:
CXdur wrote:
Perhaps I didn't understand your point, you are right, but there might be other players who did not either. I know you didn't say that LSRCR was built for profit, but you did compare it to servers who I believe are built for profit, and essentially said that we are heading this direction (and that we aren't now, we would be if we were to accept this). I do think you are exaggerating when you compare us to such servers, even if you state that Lsrcr isn't like that, you are saying that we are heading in this direction, and if you are not stating this, why would you bring it up?

You are also saying it's useless as a donation item and that we could risk new comers leaving if we are to add something like this, and that you have personally seen it on servers that were donation based, where they push "you have to donate or you are not getting shit". LSRCR isn't anything like that and that's why I reacted, it's not a comparison that I can even remotely recognize LSRCR in or agree with.

I did proof read it, and again the comparisons are what made me react. I never jumped to a conclusion and I wouldn't even have been able to know for sure why you compared Lsrcr to such servers, all I know is that you did and therefore I felt it was necessary to clarify what our donations actually go to. I knew there was a chance that you were already aware of this, but I thought I would clarify, because even if you did not know, there could be other players who don't and would have a bad reaction from your reply. You should understand that there are a lot of players on these forums, quite a bunch of them are new players as well, and if they don't know too much and they see this, they might think we indeed are like such servers. My point is even if you didn't need to hear this, there might be others who do, especially after reading your reply.

Yes, of course you are, but I still believe your comparisons are way off and that they are not appropriate. I really appreciate your views on suggestions, and you have been quite helpful and active in this section for a long time. I never said you weren't entitled to post here, I am not sure why you would assume that I feel you aren't, because as I stated above I really do appreciate detailed feedback like you write, and I have always read your replies and taken them into account, and I will also say that you are often a lot more detailed than others. Not all of my reply was directly targeted to you, it was also targeted to people who could potentially be confused by your reply.

Let's stay on topic however, if you have any more to say about what we wrote above I suggest you PM me.
Players seem to appreciate this suggestion but I am still not completely sure about it. I want more opinions on this, and I also have to agree with Indognito that it might not necessarily need to be strictly reserved to people who purchase it for donator points. We could for instance also include veteran players with tags, tagged members, I do not really know, it is something to take into consideration. Again, I would like to state that I am not accepting/rejecting the suggestion, just throwing out ideas.
If we were to restrict it to veteran members only then people will stat showing-off and all that. My opinion is limiting this tool to tagged members as if it's an item for tagged members only. To make it better, I say you remove the item from the player if he lost his tag.
Its already restricted to most of the people by keeping it in donating shop and now u r further restricting it by making it available to only tagged member NO WAY bruh why should tag members be given all the benefits keep some for others too. I would really like to see this, its up to devs if they want to keep it as a donated item or if they want to make this available to be purchased through ig-money. +1
I agree with limiting it to tag and veterans since it’ll not cause too much backlash if done so, you also have to take into consideration that there’s a possibility that players won’t use it for its intended purpose and might find a way to abuse this privilege, now I’m not going to say I trust certain tag members but I certainly won’t throw them under the bus ether, anyways it will cause less of an issue if certain restrictions are made I would like it if all players could access this if implemented but that might cause undue issues so it’s better to test it out first on tag members and veterans before even thinking about adding it for everyone.

The thing I don’t agree with though is having to donate for it, it should be automatic for those who fit the qualifications because some of the veterans and tag members have worked at fixing issues and this will be received as a thank you from the team for being respected and helpful for the years they’ve been here and also incites that tag has at least 1 more benefit then just tow truck privileges.

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Post by Zoroark » March 9, 2018, 4:08 pm
Robin wrote:
If a player tows a 3rd vehicle, despawn the first one.
Why make everything so complicated.
I use Tactics in SF where I sometimes park PVs in certain spots in case a cop shoots up my first vehicle

But also the whole reason to want a PV is to have a vehicle that doesn’t despawn. If I tow 4 cars I’d want 4 cars on the map.
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Post by Zoroark » March 9, 2018, 4:10 pm
-1 to making it a donated item +1 to the people who basically stated my old suggestion on adding 1 car slot for tagged members. It’d at least give some other benefit than just the tow truck.
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Post by Sonit » March 12, 2018, 6:34 pm
How about it as both, donated vehicle as well as free for veterans and tagged members? This way, it will be open to new comers as well as it would work as a thankyou to veterans? +1 on the suggestion though
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