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Post by BeaTen. » September 1, 2021, 5:44 am
No cops should not be nerfed now, you are saying so because of being outnumbered. Being outnumbered doesn't mean you will limit their abilities. In that sense, criminals should be nerfed as well, because when criminals outnumber cops, the same thing happens. Cops have been nerfed to shit already, they have very low cuff range, limited tazers, suspects can move whilst cuffed, limited cuffs. Cops were nerfed like twice or thrice in the past years, and at the same time, criminals were buffed. The only reason people still believe cops are 'op' and need to be nerfed is because there are so many of them. Nerfing them won't do any good, you need to think of something else, I don't know what myself either, but clearly cops have been nerfed in the past and yet everybody says they need yet more nerf, it will never stop

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Post by dev3r3r » September 1, 2021, 5:54 am
BeaTen. wrote:
No cops should not be nerfed now, you are saying so because of being outnumbered. Being outnumbered doesn't mean you will limit their abilities. In that sense, criminals should be nerfed as well, because when criminals outnumber cops, the same thing happens. Cops have been nerfed to shit already, they have very low cuff range, limited tazers, suspects can move whilst cuffed, limited cuffs. Cops were nerfed like twice or thrice in the past years, and at the same time, criminals were buffed. The only reason people still believe cops are 'op' and need to be nerfed is because there are so many of them. Nerfing them won't do any good, you need to think of something else, I don't know what myself either, but clearly cops have been nerfed in the past and yet everybody says they need yet more nerf, it will never stop
Cops have unlimited tazers.
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Post by BeaTen. » September 1, 2021, 5:57 am
dev3r3r wrote:
BeaTen. wrote:
No cops should not be nerfed now, you are saying so because of being outnumbered. Being outnumbered doesn't mean you will limit their abilities. In that sense, criminals should be nerfed as well, because when criminals outnumber cops, the same thing happens. Cops have been nerfed to shit already, they have very low cuff range, limited tazers, suspects can move whilst cuffed, limited cuffs. Cops were nerfed like twice or thrice in the past years, and at the same time, criminals were buffed. The only reason people still believe cops are 'op' and need to be nerfed is because there are so many of them. Nerfing them won't do any good, you need to think of something else, I don't know what myself either, but clearly cops have been nerfed in the past and yet everybody says they need yet more nerf, it will never stop
Cops have unlimited tazers.
I was taking about taze recharge, which before, didn't exist

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Post by Karu_Tepes » September 1, 2021, 9:13 am
BeaTen. wrote:
No cops should not be nerfed now, you are saying so because of being outnumbered. Being outnumbered doesn't mean you will limit their abilities. In that sense, criminals should be nerfed as well, because when criminals outnumber cops, the same thing happens. Cops have been nerfed to shit already, they have very low cuff range, limited tazers, suspects can move whilst cuffed, limited cuffs. Cops were nerfed like twice or thrice in the past years, and at the same time, criminals were buffed. The only reason people still believe cops are 'op' and need to be nerfed is because there are so many of them. Nerfing them won't do any good, you need to think of something else, I don't know what myself either, but clearly cops have been nerfed in the past and yet everybody says they need yet more nerf, it will never stop
The issue isnt numbers. The issue isnt cuff range. The issue is abuse.

Cops who G in and out of cars to avoid damage while pretyping IDs
Cops who can arrest 4-5 members of a cophunt while avoiding dying by lag
Cops who just heliblade you for fun
Cops who shoot the hell out of you/your car from half a map away
Cops who can snipe you 3 times while not even in your render distance (This is a hack, but staff probably don't know it)
Cops who can arrest you so fast auto /bc from VIP packet doesn't work
Cops who randomly cuff and search you 5 times for no fucking reason outside of pissing you off.

The real reason we want cops nerfed, is because the cops play like pricks.
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Post by BeaTen. » September 1, 2021, 11:45 am
Karu_Tepes wrote:
BeaTen. wrote:
No cops should not be nerfed now, you are saying so because of being outnumbered. Being outnumbered doesn't mean you will limit their abilities. In that sense, criminals should be nerfed as well, because when criminals outnumber cops, the same thing happens. Cops have been nerfed to shit already, they have very low cuff range, limited tazers, suspects can move whilst cuffed, limited cuffs. Cops were nerfed like twice or thrice in the past years, and at the same time, criminals were buffed. The only reason people still believe cops are 'op' and need to be nerfed is because there are so many of them. Nerfing them won't do any good, you need to think of something else, I don't know what myself either, but clearly cops have been nerfed in the past and yet everybody says they need yet more nerf, it will never stop
The issue isnt numbers. The issue isnt cuff range. The issue is abuse.

Cops who G in and out of cars to avoid damage while pretyping IDs
Cops who can arrest 4-5 members of a cophunt while avoiding dying by lag
Cops who just heliblade you for fun
Cops who shoot the hell out of you/your car from half a map away
Cops who can snipe you 3 times while not even in your render distance (This is a hack, but staff probably don't know it)
Cops who can arrest you so fast auto /bc from VIP packet doesn't work
Cops who randomly cuff and search you 5 times for no fucking reason outside of pissing you off.

The real reason we want cops nerfed, is because the cops play like pricks.
Criminals who G in and out of cars to avoid damage and type /sh and takedrugs and also to avoid dying
Criminals who can kill 4-5 leos due to lag
Criminals who just heliblade you for fun
Criminals who shoot the hell out of you/your car from half a map away
Criminals who can snipe you 3 times while not even in your render distance (is not a hack)
Criminals who can kill you even after you /taze them but they are not affected by the tazer gun and kill you while moonwalking despite being tazed
Criminals who start shooting at you, ram you even when you didn't even attack them once

(It's impossible to /ar before auto /bc, even if you use a keybinder, it's not possible, I think what you are referring to is, that you automatically try to /bc, but it fails to break the cuffs, but still, you can't arrest someone before automatically trying to /bc if you have a VIP packet)

I don't know why you mentioned any of those things because everything you mentioned applies to all the criminals too.

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Post by FeinT. » September 1, 2021, 12:04 pm
BeaTen. wrote:
Karu_Tepes wrote:
BeaTen. wrote:
No cops should not be nerfed now, you are saying so because of being outnumbered. Being outnumbered doesn't mean you will limit their abilities. In that sense, criminals should be nerfed as well, because when criminals outnumber cops, the same thing happens. Cops have been nerfed to shit already, they have very low cuff range, limited tazers, suspects can move whilst cuffed, limited cuffs. Cops were nerfed like twice or thrice in the past years, and at the same time, criminals were buffed. The only reason people still believe cops are 'op' and need to be nerfed is because there are so many of them. Nerfing them won't do any good, you need to think of something else, I don't know what myself either, but clearly cops have been nerfed in the past and yet everybody says they need yet more nerf, it will never stop
The issue isnt numbers. The issue isnt cuff range. The issue is abuse.

Cops who G in and out of cars to avoid damage while pretyping IDs
Cops who can arrest 4-5 members of a cophunt while avoiding dying by lag
Cops who just heliblade you for fun
Cops who shoot the hell out of you/your car from half a map away
Cops who can snipe you 3 times while not even in your render distance (This is a hack, but staff probably don't know it)
Cops who can arrest you so fast auto /bc from VIP packet doesn't work
Cops who randomly cuff and search you 5 times for no fucking reason outside of pissing you off.

The real reason we want cops nerfed, is because the cops play like pricks.
Criminals who G in and out of cars to avoid damage and type /sh and takedrugs and also to avoid dying
Criminals who can kill 4-5 leos due to lag
Criminals who just heliblade you for fun
Criminals who shoot the hell out of you/your car from half a map away
Criminals who can snipe you 3 times while not even in your render distance (is not a hack)
Criminals who can kill you even after you /taze them but they are not affected by the tazer gun and kill you while moonwalking despite being tazed
Criminals who start shooting at you, ram you even when you didn't even attack them once

(It's impossible to /ar before auto /bc, even if you use a keybinder, it's not possible, I think what you are referring to is, that you automatically try to /bc, but it fails to break the cuffs, but still, you can't arrest someone before automatically trying to /bc if you have a VIP packet)

I don't know why you mentioned any of those things because everything you mentioned applies to all the criminals too.
lmao i was about to type this bro how did you read my mind :lol:
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Post by dev3r3r » September 1, 2021, 12:21 pm
BeaTen. wrote:
Karu_Tepes wrote:
BeaTen. wrote:
No cops should not be nerfed now, you are saying so because of being outnumbered. Being outnumbered doesn't mean you will limit their abilities. In that sense, criminals should be nerfed as well, because when criminals outnumber cops, the same thing happens. Cops have been nerfed to shit already, they have very low cuff range, limited tazers, suspects can move whilst cuffed, limited cuffs. Cops were nerfed like twice or thrice in the past years, and at the same time, criminals were buffed. The only reason people still believe cops are 'op' and need to be nerfed is because there are so many of them. Nerfing them won't do any good, you need to think of something else, I don't know what myself either, but clearly cops have been nerfed in the past and yet everybody says they need yet more nerf, it will never stop
The issue isnt numbers. The issue isnt cuff range. The issue is abuse.

Cops who G in and out of cars to avoid damage while pretyping IDs
Cops who can arrest 4-5 members of a cophunt while avoiding dying by lag
Cops who just heliblade you for fun
Cops who shoot the hell out of you/your car from half a map away
Cops who can snipe you 3 times while not even in your render distance (This is a hack, but staff probably don't know it)
Cops who can arrest you so fast auto /bc from VIP packet doesn't work
Cops who randomly cuff and search you 5 times for no fucking reason outside of pissing you off.

The real reason we want cops nerfed, is because the cops play like pricks.
Criminals who G in and out of cars to avoid damage and type /sh and takedrugs and also to avoid dying
Criminals who can kill 4-5 leos due to lag
Criminals who just heliblade you for fun
Criminals who shoot the hell out of you/your car from half a map away
Criminals who can snipe you 3 times while not even in your render distance (is not a hack)
Criminals who can kill you even after you /taze them but they are not affected by the tazer gun and kill you while moonwalking despite being tazed
Criminals who start shooting at you, ram you even when you didn't even attack them once

(It's impossible to /ar before auto /bc, even if you use a keybinder, it's not possible, I think what you are referring to is, that you automatically try to /bc, but it fails to break the cuffs, but still, you can't arrest someone before automatically trying to /bc if you have a VIP packet)

I don't know why you mentioned any of those things because everything you mentioned applies to all the criminals too.
When we do that we get arrested, When cops do that we get arrested too.
Just simple like that.
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Post by BeaTen. » September 1, 2021, 12:28 pm
You can just shock while entering..... This isn't about leo vs criminals, leo will always have the ultimate ability to arrest you, they were nerfed numerous times in the past and now just because there are too many of them you want to nerf them more. It's dumb, because if they get nerfed and let's assume their numbers decrease, then leos will be extremely weak, then will you suggest to buff them again? Lol

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Post by dev3r3r » September 1, 2021, 12:38 pm
BeaTen. wrote:
You can just shock while entering..... This isn't about leo vs criminals, leo will always have the ultimate ability to arrest you, they were nerfed numerous times in the past and now just because there are too many of them you want to nerf them more. It's dumb, because if they get nerfed and let's assume their numbers decrease, then leos will be extremely weak, then will you suggest to buff them again? Lol
Why would we do such thing.
As the limit depends on the players' count
Now if we have 40 player online
Limit the cops spawn to 20 (15 if factions included)
And this still won't be fair for the criminals
But it's better than the shit happening now.
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Post by Richano » September 1, 2021, 2:20 pm
dev3r3r wrote:
BeaTen. wrote:
You can just shock while entering..... This isn't about leo vs criminals, leo will always have the ultimate ability to arrest you, they were nerfed numerous times in the past and now just because there are too many of them you want to nerf them more. It's dumb, because if they get nerfed and let's assume their numbers decrease, then leos will be extremely weak, then will you suggest to buff them again? Lol
Why would we do such thing.
As the limit depends on the players' count
Now if we have 40 player online
Limit the cops spawn to 20 (15 if factions included)
And this still won't be fair for the criminals
But it's better than the shit happening now.
Limiting the police class would definitely not help the unbalanced situation we have had for a long time already imho. Like coolguy said, if some new player loses his place in cop skin and the limit gets hit again, he/she would be frustrated about that and just leave our server to go and find a different (better) CnR server.

The main problem is cophunting seeming to be the main aspect for most of the people on the server, even though this is a Cops and ROBBERS server. We can not change this however since it's a personal preference.
dev3r3r wrote:
And this still won't be fair for the criminals
But it's better than the shit happening now.
What is the point of limiting the police class then if it won't be fair for the criminals anyway?
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