Bring back Cops and Robbers, anti-TDM suggestions

[[Lsrcr]PiPo]

. One player should be able to join max 3 groups, hence the value of weapon racks would increase and would also reduce the TDM mode. Make weapon racks refill expensive maybe to increase the value of weapons so people just do not spawn and start hunting cops

This is a very interesting part!!!

[Karu_Tepes]

What I like about your suggestion is the first part where you mentioned additional rewards for certain classes due to unbalance of leos/crime. This would be a great change and would help at times when there are 20 cops in server and 2 wanteds. In addition to this, I'd suggest to remove the access of bounty hunters to be able to take weapons for free from police checkpoints, since that allows nearly everyone to get weapons for free and cophunt. Also, restrict the ability of players being able to join 15 groups at once. One player should be able to join max 3 groups, hence the value of weapon racks would increase and would also reduce the TDM mode. Make weapon racks refill expensive maybe to increase the value of weapons so people just do not spawn and start hunting cops

The issue there is the limit would just get fucked. Say you have SWAT, and Pagati... then Buzzards... then some idiot hands you rights to a craphole. Now you get reported. Or worse, you have rights to two groups, go to join another, and some prick gives you rank 1 and since you cant leave on your own, you're fucked!

And I would say a better idea is remove the option to buy drugs and weapons. Yeah sure, refill items, but with guns they should HAVE to be robbed from ammunation in the desert. Drugs should HAVE to come from Pagati. Then groups cant just toss money and get shit. They would have to WORK for it. Have to actually TRY. It would increase the number of criminals, and with having to work for it, groups would stop giving rights to new users from cafes who they KNOW are evading just so they get free guns out the door.

[Swaka]

And I would say a better idea is remove the option to buy drugs and weapons. Yeah sure, refill items, but with guns they should HAVE to be robbed from ammunation in the desert. Drugs should HAVE to come from Pagati. Then groups cant just toss money and get shit. They would have to WORK for it. Have to actually TRY. It would increase the number of criminals, and with having to work for it, groups would stop giving rights to new users from cafes who they KNOW are evading just so they get free guns out the door.

This would do good.

[VenoM]

Yes, please do what an inactive player says who posts a leaving topic every year. You want others to play like YOU want them to play which isn't possible.

[Faraon78910]

Sure if you want to change player count to 5 go ahead and implement this.

I have even better suggestion: disallow inactice players to make stupid suggestions.

[Crazymix]

Sure if you want to change player count to 5 go ahead and implement this.

I have even better suggestion: disallow inactice players to make stupid suggestions.

[Osolnik]

Firstly, I'd like to mention something I feel it's very important (and I can't stress this enough). The suggestions you presented bring drastic changes to LSRCR. If we look at the current state of LSRCR, we can see that we have to be very careful when implementing such changes, as suggested above. The server mostly consists of older (or experienced, not-new) players. Every day we have fewer and fewer new players coming onto the server. Considering that, certain changes that would cause players to stop playing will most likely mean that player-count will start falling and we'll never recover. If the things you suggested are good, then maybe player count will rise a little, but I doubt it will sky-rocket. Therefore, my opinion is that the damage that your suggestions could potentially cause far out-weigh the potential benefits.

LSRCR gameplay is different from other servers with a similar theme. I know a couple of CnR servers that have died in the past years. There are exceptions, of course, some servers grew too. In my opinion, we stayed alive because we are different. Behind our style of gameplay, there is a CnR theme, with a little touch of roleplay. We don't force people to roleplay. This is exactly the reason why LSRCR has evolved the way it has. Along with the change of player-base, the playstyle has changed also. The current playstyle most likely fits most of the players that are active and come here often to play. We could have lost players in the past because of the TDM playstyle (even though I'd say SAMP's and older players' age is more to blame), but doing changes you suggested would probably make us lose the players that enjoy the current playstyle too. I doubt players that left will come back and fill the gap.

Like it or not, the main part of LSRCR is teaming up with a certain group of players and doing stuff like robbing, cophunting, hunting criminals and even roleplaying sometimes. Dueling and 2-shotting with sawnoffs is a huge factor too. Doing this stuff and clashing with other individuals or groups of people brings joy and adrenaline to many of us. Removing stuff like 2-shot and sawnoffs would completely ruin this. Personally, I wouldn't find any motivation to play in the server if the above changes were implemented and I think I'm speaking here on behalf of many people that are currently active.

I disagree with most part of what you have suggested. I agree with the "Dynamic rewards for CnR balance", but as far as I'm aware, this is already being implemented.

And ofcourse, all I wrote is only my opinion.

[Johnny$]

You probably have 0 clue of what's the meaning of SA-MP, that's not a completely RP server, negative.

[Mateej]

Yes, please do what an inactive player says who posts a leaving topic every year. You want others to play like YOU want them to play which isn't possible.

I don’t know why would you even make suggestions if you already left the server a long time ago. Most of players including me are playing here to duel with sawnoff, remove that, player count will drop to 0 and have a nice day waiting for someone to donate again.

Many players will leave forever including me. You already left the server so I don’t know why would you care. I want to play and enjoy when the server is still on. Donations are coming, people are having fun, that’s it. Don’t suggest nonsense.

Like it or not, the main part of LSRCR is teaming up with a certain group of players and doing stuff like robbing, cophunting, hunting criminals and even roleplaying sometimes. Dueling and 2-shotting with sawnoffs is a huge factor too. Doing this stuff and clashing other individuals or groups of people brings joy and adrenaline to many of us. Removing stuff like 2-shot and sawnoffs would completely ruin this. Personally, I wouldn't find any motivation to play in the server if the above changes were implemented and I think I'm speaking here on behalf of many people that are currently active.

[[Lsrcr]PiPo]

Sure if you want to change player count to 5 go ahead and implement this.

I have even better suggestion: disallow inactice players to make stupid suggestions.

Or have a conversation with em about why they got inactive. I agree big changes are probably to risky to take at this point. However talking/discussing about it can only result in the better, whatever its implemented or not cause opposite points were stronger.

As with a lot opinions its easier to find the acceptable middle.

Personally I've never been a big fan of 2 shot, however the fast majority seems to like. For the sake of Lsrcr we probably should keep it as it is. However talking about how it could be changed is IMO never wrong.