Mistakes in Qur'an

[Robin]

We're allowed to wear what ever we feel like

except those clothes which exposes the body.

You literally took down your own argument in the same sentence.

[StephenKelly]

The fact that you can't even question your religion is really starting to have a bad effect

You keep saying Shit like I'm brainwashed and I need to read and I just don't want to admit the're is a God even though I know there is

Legit nothing more than spreading the word of your God and dismissing every other piece of outside information as wrong

Annoying trying to ask you questions because the answers are always long and unclear, just gibberish made to dodge actually answering the question

Not gonna bother asking you questions anymore, will talk to a more open minded Muslim instead, at least they will give me a straight answer

[GreaTSaN]

The fact that you can't even question your religion is really starting to have a bad effect

You keep saying Shit like I'm brainwashed and I need to read and I just don't want to admit the're is a God even though I know there is

Legit nothing more than spreading the word of your God and dismissing every other piece of outside information as wrong

Annoying trying to ask you questions because the answers are always long and unclear, just gibberish made to dodge actually answering the question

Not gonna bother asking you questions anymore, will talk to a more open minded Muslim instead, at least they will give me a straight answer

The answer which I gave are straight enough to be understood. What's wrong the answers? Just tell me clearly with what you disagree and what's wrong? I simply wrote down the verses which that guy on YouTube was translating wrong. Go on find any Muslim but you'd receive the same answer. "You keep saying" I just said it once. "I need to read" Yes you've to read something before you judge. You can't start and say things about anything without actually getting to know about it. YouTube wouldn't help anybody to find what's right and what's not.

[Sonit]

You guys threw him at us and now we threw him back to you.

Didn't work.

Of course it did. Sonnet's post is a proof of that

It didn't. I didn't said anything regarding Zakir Naik.

[OsamaAbouelhassan]

We're allowed to wear what ever we feel like

except those clothes which exposes the body.

You literally took down your own argument in the same sentence.

In a topic like this one, you need to gather all your focus and memory to give a proper reply, I'm sure San meant a more accurate meaning which is, for women, it's covering all the body parts except for the hands and the face whenever she is in a place where she can get exposed to another man whom isn't her husband/a relative (not all relatives though), in other words Hijab, as for men, I'm not sure but as far as I recall, it's covering your body part starting from middle of the chest (diaphragm) till your knees whenever in a place where you can get exposed to a woman that isn't your wife/a relative (not all though)

[OsamaAbouelhassan]

The fact that you can't even question your religion is really starting to have a bad effect

You keep saying Shit like I'm brainwashed and I need to read and I just don't want to admit the're is a God even though I know there is

Legit nothing more than spreading the word of your God and dismissing every other piece of outside information as wrong

Annoying trying to ask you questiomns because the answers are always long and unclear, just gibberish made to dodge actually answering the question

Not gonna bother asking you questions anymore, will talk to a more open minded Muslim instead, at least they will give me a straight answer

I'm sorry it has reached this stage, from the first moment I requested everyone to always do their researches from more than one source

Also, please don't quit researching because of one video or two that had another opinion letting you know that Internet is full of things of benefits and others that can be lies/mistakes ..etc

Quran once again can't be directly translated because sometimes a word can be explained in lines or carries a completely different meaning than the one you might think it does, the language functions and grammar can sometimes be hard or be grammatically different depends on the situation the verse was told in or the purpose of the whole chapter .. etc

[GreaTSaN]

The fact that you can't even question your religion is really starting to have a bad effect

You keep saying Shit like I'm brainwashed and I need to read and I just don't want to admit the're is a God even though I know there is

Legit nothing more than spreading the word of your God and dismissing every other piece of outside information as wrong

Annoying trying to ask you questiomns because the answers are always long and unclear, just gibberish made to dodge actually answering the question

Not gonna bother asking you questions anymore, will talk to a more open minded Muslim instead, at least they will give me a straight answer

I'm sorry it has reached this stage, from the first moment I requested everyone to always do their researches from more than one source

Also, please don't quit researching because of one video or two that had another opinion letting you know that Internet is full of things of benefits and others that can be lies/mistakes ..etc

Quran once again can't be directly translated because sometimes a word can be explained in lines or carries a completely different meaning than the one you might think it does, the language functions and grammar can sometimes be hard or be grammatically different depends on the situation the verse was told in or the purpose of the whole chapter .. etc

If he had done some research before posting that video that would have gone better but instead he simply watched that video and considered Zakir Naik a stupid scholar, Qur'an a book with contradictions. The thing Maskedman is doing is pretty clever. He simply changes the meaning of a word to something which is similar to it which makes the whole meaning of verse different and those without knowledge would simply say "Oh.. a book with contradiction".

I apologise. When I read that again. I noticed some mistake. Yes we r allowed to wear any thing which covers body it's only the tie which I wanted to talk about.

Not even the tie is considered wrong. It's just some Pakistani muulas who say that it's haram but it's not. There's no such thing like that. I advise you to read Qur'an and Hadith carefully instead of listening to third class muulas.

[[Lsrcr]Oggy]

We still haven't got our answers. Why is it written in the Quran that sperm emerges between the backbone and the ribs when it clearly doesn't? When I asked this, I was asked to watch the videos of Dr. Zakir Naik. His videos make little sense, at least not to me. So, can you explain why that is written in the Quran?

[The_Fury]

We still haven't got our answers. Why is it written in the Quran that sperm emerges between the backbone and the ribs when it clearly doesn't? When I asked this, I was asked to watch the videos of Dr. Zakir Naik. His videos make little sense, at least not to me. So, can you explain why that is written in the Quran?

Its a common allegation which is made against the Quran. The Quran implies that semen production takes place in the kidney or back area citing the verses:

[86:6-8] "Now let man but think from what he is created! He is created from a drop emitted -Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs:"

The allegation, in the words of Dr. William Campbell is as follows;

“Since the verse is speaking of the moment of adult reproduction it can't be talking about the time of embryonic development. Moreover, since 'sulb' is being used in conjunction with 'gushing fluid', which can only be physical; and 'tara'ib' which is another physical word for chest or thorax or ribs, it can't be euphemistic. Therefore, we are left with the very real problem that the semen is coming from the back or kidney area and not the testicles.”

What Qur’an Says

[76:3] We have created man from a mingled sperm-drop that We might try him; so We made him hearing, seeing.

[86:6] So let man consider from what he is created.

[86:7] He is created from a gushing fluid,

[86:8] Which issues forth from between the loins and the breast-bones.

[86:9] Surely, He has the power to bring him back to life

EXPLANATION

The allegation is based on false premises that the Qur’an talks about semen coming out of the area between backbone and ribs.

DID THE QUR’AN USE THE WORD “SEMEN”? NOT AT ALL.

The Qur’an used the words, “Khuliqa minm Maain Daafiq”, that was translated by Sir Zafrullah Khan as, “created from a fluid poured forth” and by Maulvi Sher Ali as, “created from a gushing fluid”. These four words mean the ejaculate, which consists of 2-5% sperms and 95-98% other ingredients. Therefore only 2-5 % of the fluid is produced in testes. The majority of the other ingredients, including prostaglandins, Zinc, lipids, steroid hormones, enzymes, amino acids and minerals, are produced and stored in the seminal vesicles, and prostate glands, both of which are located very close to the backbone.

DID THE QUR’AN USE THE WORD “KIDNEY”? NO.

Furthermore, we should try to discover what is that present in between the backbone and the ribs that causes the seminal fluid to be issued or expelled. In order to understand this verse, we must recollect the anatomy and the physiology of the spinal cord, vertebral column, and the autonomic nervous system. Briefly, without going into biological and physiological details, the reflex centres in the spinal cord begin to send nerve signals or emit rhythmic sympathetic impulses that leave the cord at lumbar segments L1, L2 and pass to the genitalia. Next, the last wave of reflex nervous mechanism takes place. Rhythmic parasympathetic impulses from the sacral segment S1, S2 leave the cord resulting in the expulsion or ejaculation or forcing out the “gushing fluid”.

The spinal cord ends at the level between first and second lumbar vertebrae. The spinal segments, L1, L2 and S1, S2 are enclosed within the first and second lumbar vertebrae, which are below the thoracic ones where the ribs meet the backbone. Thus we have seen that the nerve signals to expel the ejaculate or the “gushing fluid” is issued from the lumbar and sacral segments of the spinal cord, which lie below the level of the 12th ribs on either side and above L3 vertebra or “between the backbone and the ribs,” as the Qur’an says.

SUMMARY

Briefly, the Holy Qur’an is absolutely right in using the above words literally and scientifically too. All knowledge is in the Qur’an but some intellects are the one who fail to grasp it. The above mentioned physiological mechanism of ejaculation of the fluid and how the nerve impulses are discharged from the lumbar and sacral segments of the spinal cord that lie within the first two lumbar vertebrae, which are below the 12th ribs and above the remaining lumbar and sacral vertebrae, the backbone. Is there any doubt what the Qur’an uniquely summarizes it, the nerve impulses are discharged “ Don't know if this answers you or not,didn't even read lmfao and not interested in such arguments/topics.

[[Lsrcr]Oggy]

We still haven't got our answers. Why is it written in the Quran that sperm emerges between the backbone and the ribs when it clearly doesn't? When I asked this, I was asked to watch the videos of Dr. Zakir Naik. His videos make little sense, at least not to me. So, can you explain why that is written in the Quran?

Its a common allegation which is made against the Quran. The Quran implies that semen production takes place in the kidney or back area citing the verses:

[86:6-8] "Now let man but think from what he is created! He is created from a drop emitted -Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs:"

The allegation, in the words of Dr. William Campbell is as follows;

“Since the verse is speaking of the moment of adult reproduction it can't be talking about the time of embryonic development. Moreover, since 'sulb' is being used in conjunction with 'gushing fluid', which can only be physical; and 'tara'ib' which is another physical word for chest or thorax or ribs, it can't be euphemistic. Therefore, we are left with the very real problem that the semen is coming from the back or kidney area and not the testicles.”

What Qur’an Says

[76:3] We have created man from a mingled sperm-drop that We might try him; so We made him hearing, seeing.

[86:6] So let man consider from what he is created.

[86:7] He is created from a gushing fluid,

[86:8] Which issues forth from between the loins and the breast-bones.

[86:9] Surely, He has the power to bring him back to life

EXPLANATION

The allegation is based on false premises that the Qur’an talks about semen coming out of the area between backbone and ribs.

DID THE QUR’AN USE THE WORD “SEMEN”? NOT AT ALL.

The Qur’an used the words, “Khuliqa minm Maain Daafiq”, that was translated by Sir Zafrullah Khan as, “created from a fluid poured forth” and by Maulvi Sher Ali as, “created from a gushing fluid”. These four words mean the ejaculate, which consists of 2-5% sperms and 95-98% other ingredients. Therefore only 2-5 % of the fluid is produced in testes. The majority of the other ingredients, including prostaglandins, Zinc, lipids, steroid hormones, enzymes, amino acids and minerals, are produced and stored in the seminal vesicles, and prostate glands, both of which are located very close to the backbone.

DID THE QUR’AN USE THE WORD “KIDNEY”? NO.

Furthermore, we should try to discover what is that present in between the backbone and the ribs that causes the seminal fluid to be issued or expelled. In order to understand this verse, we must recollect the anatomy and the physiology of the spinal cord, vertebral column, and the autonomic nervous system. Briefly, without going into biological and physiological details, the reflex centres in the spinal cord begin to send nerve signals or emit rhythmic sympathetic impulses that leave the cord at lumbar segments L1, L2 and pass to the genitalia. Next, the last wave of reflex nervous mechanism takes place. Rhythmic parasympathetic impulses from the sacral segment S1, S2 leave the cord resulting in the expulsion or ejaculation or forcing out the “gushing fluid”.

The spinal cord ends at the level between first and second lumbar vertebrae. The spinal segments, L1, L2 and S1, S2 are enclosed within the first and second lumbar vertebrae, which are below the thoracic ones where the ribs meet the backbone. Thus we have seen that the nerve signals to expel the ejaculate or the “gushing fluid” is issued from the lumbar and sacral segments of the spinal cord, which lie below the level of the 12th ribs on either side and above L3 vertebra or “between the backbone and the ribs,” as the Qur’an says.

SUMMARY

Briefly, the Holy Qur’an is absolutely right in using the above words literally and scientifically too. All knowledge is in the Qur’an but some intellects are the one who fail to grasp it. The above mentioned physiological mechanism of ejaculation of the fluid and how the nerve impulses are discharged from the lumbar and sacral segments of the spinal cord that lie within the first two lumbar vertebrae, which are below the 12th ribs and above the remaining lumbar and sacral vertebrae, the backbone. Is there any doubt what the Qur’an uniquely summarizes it, the nerve impulses are discharged “ Don't know if this answers you or not didn't even read lmfao and not interested in such arguments/topics

Seminal vesicles, cowper's glands and the prostate gland contribute to 95% of the semen and these glands may be close to the backbone. But they are NOWHERE near the ribs and and they're a LOT closer to the testicles than to the backbone.

We're missing the point here. If Quran is as perfect as you say, then why are things written like this? These verses are clearly not perfect nor clear.