
Skillzz wrote:Shaco wrote:Maggy I like youMaggy wrote:Science bro, science. We all were born after our parents had sex not thrown down from sky by God, lol. As being a Muslim, I don't agree to many things Qur'an have said, in short sometimes I feel there's no God, but I'd like to keep my thoughts to myself. kthxbaiThis ^
Personally, I see you as an open-minded and a true Muslim not the 'everything-in-the-Quran-is right' Muslim.
Maggy wrote:What are you saying? If a person is doing wrong, is it Islam telling him to do? If a society is doing wrong, is it Islam which is wrong or the society which is doing wrong? We can't blame Islam if a society is doing wrong but the blame is on those who haven't read Qur'an with translations. Majority in Pakistan doesn't even know what they're reciting, why? Because lack of education. By the way, have you read Qur'an with authentic translation yourself before coming up with these questions?Now you talk about Ramadan and a rapist become a good Muslim and when it's over he becomes the same again, you're right at this. But it's not Islam and it has nothing to do with it.It has everything to do with Islam, mate. Those rapists were so called Muslims, and the society trusts them being a Muslim. Now if a Muslim questions about his religion, he's beaten up. But if he decides to be a rapist and pray at the same time, he's a Muslim.
Edit: Oh, you'll come up again now with same excuse that it also has nothing to do with Islam. I'll just say a few words.
If a group of Muslims is combined, it's Islam. Without people (muslims), there's no religion. People are the ones that represents the religion, Allah (if there is) would never come down and prove his religion. It's us, the Muslims who are supposed to represent and prove it correct. I used to be a proud muslim, but after all these incidents, no.
People say you'll be punished by Allah for questioning his religion, where's the punishment for those who are praying and also dancing with prostitutes, involved in many rapes, especially molvi's (Mullas). I've recently seen a video of a Molvi dancing with a prostitude, I've also recently seen a Molvi asking his student for a blowjob. The student came to him to know about the religion, about the Qur'an, but they both ended it up with a blowjob. I can share the videos to you though, I got both of them.
Shaco wrote:I'm not gonna go further and argue with you because you're simply going to come up with questions not making any sense. What's the logic of bringing sex and pray here? What it has to do with the book itself? And how did I prove your point while I simply said that those who say it contains contradictions are true Muslim and those who don't are not. You're the one who proved my point of being illogical. If you say that Qur'an contains mistake and contradictions then just tell me where? Don't just come up with argument but bring a verse which is a contradiction so we can discuss something.Shaco wrote:Maggy wrote:Science bro, science. We all were born after our parents had sex not thrown down from sky by God, lol. As being a Muslim, I don't agree to many things Qur'an have said, in short sometimes I feel there's no God, but I'd like to keep my thoughts to myself. kthxbaiThis ^
Personally, I see you as an open-minded and a true Muslim not the 'everything-in-the-Quran-is right' Muslim.GreaTSaN wrote:That is amazing. Those who say Qur'an contains contradictions and mistakes are true Muslim and "open-minded" and those who don't are blind folded. You deserve a medal.You just proved my point. Alas,you would rather believe everything that's written in a book instead of understanding simple,proven and logical facts. If someday you'll get married,go ahead and pray for your wife to get pregnant rather than having sex with her
Maggy wrote:I'm not talking about the book here, I'm talking about the religion itself. And no I haven't read Quran and I won't unless I see motivation to do so. I'm tallking about those 90 percent muslims here who have fucked up the religion and are still known as true respected muslims.I thinks this is the end
If about Quran only, I already said in very first post that I do believe some of the things of the book, which I heard from people and all.

Maggy wrote:I'm not talking about the book here, I'm talking about the religion itself. And no I haven't read Quran and I won't unless I see motivation to do so. I'm tallking about those 90 percent muslims here who have fucked up the religion and are still known as true respected muslims.This is hilarious. You're here criticizing Islam while you haven't read the book of the religion. You're relying on people instead of the book which was sent down for all of the humanity and not just our so-called scholars or mullas around. You need motivation from people? That's good but little you know people are not going to help you out when on that day (judgement) you'd be in trouble. You can't even talk about the religion here if you haven't read the book because that book is all which makes the religion. No not 90% Muslims. There are more than 1.5 billion Muslims (and this amount is increasing) and what you just see here is not even 2nd half of it. I could give you links of multiple scholars which are way much better than our Mullas (in pakistan). It's just about your faith not others. If you believe in something then do that by following all its pillars. If you see around people killing others does that give you motivation to kill? No because you don't like that. That's the same thing for religion. It's about you not about others. If you've a perfect faith, you wouldn't be going around searching for motivation because you know that it's about the End. The world is eventually going to die. Every soul shall taste death. Can't you see those in graveyard? Leaving all their property, their pride, their wealth, every single thing and going somewhere which you and I are also going to someday. You say that you can't question the religion? But hey.. Where did Islam say not to question? Does it stop you from asking questions? No. But those who don't know anything would stop you from asking so they can continue with their business and making money in the name of religion. Read the book yourself to understand what the real Islam is.
If about Quran only, I already said in very first post that I do believe some of the things of the book, which I heard from people and all.
GreaTSaN wrote:You can surely investigate ( tasdeeq) Islam. Those who stop you or May be beat You aren't true. Read the word of God (Quran) not investigate the word of sinful & mistakeful puppets (people).Maggy wrote:I'm not talking about the book here, I'm talking about the religion itself. And no I haven't read Quran and I won't unless I see motivation to do so. I'm tallking about those 90 percent muslims here who have fucked up the religion and are still known as true respected muslims.This is hilarious. You're here criticizing Islam while you haven't read the book of the religion. You're relying on people instead of the book which was sent down for all of the humanity and not just our so-called scholars or mullas around. You need motivation from people? That's good but little you know people are not going to help you out when on that day (judgement) you'd be in trouble. You can't even talk about the religion here if you haven't read the book because that book is all which makes the religion. No not 90% Muslims. There are more than 1.5 billion Muslims (and this amount is increasing) and what you just see here is not even 2nd half of it. I could give you links of multiple scholars which are way much better than our Mullas (in pakistan). It's just about your faith not others. If you believe in something then do that by following all its pillars. If you see around people killing others does that give you motivation to kill? No because you don't like that. That's the same thing for religion. It's about you not about others. If you've a perfect faith, you wouldn't be going around searching for motivation because you know that it's about the End. The world is eventually going to die. Every soul shall taste death. Can't you see those in graveyard? Leaving all their property, their pride, their wealth, every single thing and going somewhere which you and I are also going to someday. You say that you can't question the religion? But hey.. Where did Islam say not to question? Does it stop you from asking questions? No. But those who don't know anything would stop you from asking so they can continue with their business and making money in the name of religion. Read the book yourself to understand what the real Islam is.
If about Quran only, I already said in very first post that I do believe some of the things of the book, which I heard from people and all.
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