Nerfing the S.W.A.T. bomb

[bassel_faw]

As deadly no need to add more but if u weren't. In swat
You will agree with deadly

[BoSS]

remove SWAT from Lsrcr +1

[ZiadMohammed]

Yall SWAT members not even reading what I typed, so stop giving your shit opinions.

About the JSB, yes, jsb, what a cool fucking buggy device, yall acting smartasses.
JSB is like fucking useless when it comes to the bomb, it's effect doesn't last long enough, it's buggy and we can only use it once and then go to the end of the world to refill that shit.
You didn't even try it and still talking, just shut up, I already told you, if you wanna comment here, comment facts not just shit information that you made up inorder not to nerf it.
And Ziad, actually, every LEO in this server sometimes faces 10 criminals and beats them, without your excuses.
So when you're SWAT and get in a situation as given, you don't really need a bomb to defeat them, you just need skills, that's what Nikola's talking about.


2) Hard to use? Now let's be honest about this, because I want this topic full of truth and honesty, not some bullshit such as the things you're saying.
It is actually pretty easy to use, easier than using all the army features, because you only need to get close to a suspect, doesn't matter how, just get close and 2 mouse clicks, so fucking hard, can't believe that shit.


Let's move to Criminals against the SWAT bomb.
They can't fucking help it, they can in no way avoid the SWAT bomb if the sawt member is skilled and smart, no fucking way, you can't discuss that shit cause you've never been acriminal, and if you have witnessed a criminal baiting your swat bomb, you're the one who's missing something my friend.



Hola hola, next time, don't comment bullshit and talk about things that you're sure and aware of, and be honest hehe, I know you're mature enough Nikola and I do know that you know that the SWAT bomb is too OP, but you just don't wanna lose it, eh?
I one hundred percent know what I'm talking about and what are going to be the responses to this, don't worry.

Thank you

Come in-game and show me your awesome skills against 10 suspect 2 in vortex and other in car locked and drive-by and when you just explode any car, have fun with a party full of shocks. Come show me what you can do when you are just followed by 3 helibladers, ''You know nothing about SWAT ''
How come you want this topic to be full of truth and you are lying on yourself before lying on us ?
If you want to make the swat bomb ''weak'' then please suggest to ''Remove SWAT Team ''.

[Nikola]

Okay Nikola, seems like you're the dumbest around here, insulting and being a good smartass. Let's start with that I spent time in SWAT twice as much as you and have ten times more experience than you, and yes, the SWAT bomb nowadays is a billion times better than it was back in the days, that's why I suggested this topic in the first place.
We are not crying or trying to make any benefits, we're just trying to make it fair for both sides.

Actually, I was in S.W.A.T. team before you joined this server/forum, so I will not be arguing over that. And if you carefully read my reply, intitial one on your topic, you would see that I mentioned the same thing, which is equality for both sides.

You're talking about skills? hmmm.. What skills do you need to get close to a criminal and double click and kill him?
Skills are not the point here, smartass, when you're half a mile away from a SWAT member and still die with a double click, not only you, but the wanteds around you aswell.

To begin with, I would need good driving skills to get myself into a good bombing position, and after that, I remain in the hands of luck, since I can never know if the detinator will fail, or not. Now, I don't quite understand your point with 2 miles, since we usually use S.W.A.T. bomb in a close proximity to the wanted, not two miles away. I believe we cannot randomly place it two miles away, and magically know when you will pass by it, so we can detonate, right?

The detonator's bugs are not considered, and don't always happen, they have always been there and you always can type /detonator to help you if it's bugged, I'm not that 'ignorant'.

Yes, and another detonator fail can happen, so I have to type /detonator again, and what do you know, I've already been killed by criminal because I had to type /detoantor, do you now see the whole point of me mentioning the detonator bugs? I pray to God that you do, because I will not be repeating myself million times.

Let's discuss your ping matter, ping has always been a problem to everyone, but you still can damage or even immediate kill the suspect if you're close enough, not half a mile away, but 'kind of' close, I have seen that many times.

I would love you to join me in a bomb attempt on 200 ping player, and see for yourself what the result is going to be.
Please, next time I see you in-game, I will kindly invite you to prove how you are wrong with this.


/svwm hmmm, that shit is the most illogical thing in the server, it's like you have an improved /fix command every like 15 mins(?).
It does make the tires bulletproof, and that is the most fucked up thing when it comes to helping a criminal when he's between your hands.
But as I said, and still you commented about it cause you have no more shit to say and you just wanted to make your shit paragraph longer, I didn't really wanna talk about it because it doesn't affect our gameplay as much as the bomb does, but you made me do it.

Due to your cursing, and bad elaboration skills, I will not be able to answer this, since I can only understand trash talk, and your anger, but not your point. /fix command refills the car HP,
tires, everything, /svwm doesn't, it only inflates tires every ten seconds, and you can pop them, and they will be popped until ten seconds had passed, to be inflated again. You are literally making no sense.

/smh, hmm I still remember that, it is actually pretty cool and you deserve to have it because you need tactics.
But let's not forget that there is a suggestion being supported where you cannot locate the SWAT members when they are in the hidden(/smh) mode. And if that suggestion gets accepted, I don't really wanna see you talking shit like a smartass.

Now now dear, I haven't made any comment regarding me being pro or against it, I am perfectly satisfied with /smh as it is, so do not go beyond that.
I have simply made a point on you not being accurate about certain things. And it is completely up to you if you can accept my critiques as a mature man, or not.

/rb is the same shit, It's not in the discussion, as I mentioned earlier, it's only about the bomb.

You cannot compare the SWAT bomb to any of the army's features actually, because it's the strongest, let's see why.
1) SWAT bomb has no restrictions or rules, you can use it on any wanted you want and where you want, and get zero damage, which makes it the most OP feature in the server, doesn't it?

Mmmm, not really. I for instance do not agree with cop bat which renders you immobile for a few longer seconds, yet, I accepted it as a cool feature to have, even though LEOs have absolutely nothing similar like that. Also bomb jammers are something LEO cannot remove, and it disables our feature, but once again, I completely accepted it, because it makes game more fun.

2) Hard to use? Now let's be honest about this, because I want this topic full of truth and honesty, not some bullshit such as the things you're saying.
It is actually pretty easy to use, easier than using all the army features, because you only need to get close to a suspect, doesn't matter how, just get close and 2 mouse clicks, so fucking hard, can't believe that shit.

Again, your ignorance is truly out-shining your immature approach to this.
I would love you to once again join the skin, and try to bomb people, with those two clicks, and see if it is that easy, or not.

3) To be more exact, army features need more work and skill inorder to kill a suspect using them, and don't forget what I said in number 1, you get killed plenty of times trying to get a suspect using the army features, without even touching the suspect, and you also need to have a good vision on the area you're using them on, unlike SWAT BOMB.

And you should'nt forget that we haven't got nearly the same number of features as army. And you would pretty much need a good vision, and reaction time if you want to bomb someone.


Let's move to Criminals against the SWAT bomb.
They can't fucking help it, they can in no way avoid the SWAT bomb if the sawt member is skilled and smart, no fucking way, you can't discuss that shit cause you've never been acriminal, and if you have witnessed a criminal baiting your swat bomb, you're the one who's missing something my friend.

Do not come close to the member carrying a bomb, split into two groups,
or more separate criminal units, this way, bomber cannot harm you all, in best case only one criminal gets killed while you all circle around and shoot at the member. Stand on the car roof, you won't be affected that much by the explosion. Use shocks to stop S.W.A.T. player from coming close to you. Would this be enough, because I can keep going?



Hola hola, next time, don't comment bullshit and talk about things that you're sure and aware of, and be honest hehe, I know you're mature enough Nikola and I do know that you know that the SWAT bomb is too OP, but you just don't wanna lose it, eh?
I one hundred percent know what I'm talking about and what are going to be the responses to this, don't worry.

I have no problem with bomb being completely removed, because I am skilled enough to deal with criminals without it. I only use it for efficiency with makig things more quick, and protection. I do enjoy it, but as I played without it before my SGT rank, I have no problem enjoying my game without it.

And I would expect a reply full of bullshit from you just not to lose this argument, but have my advice.
Save it.

The moment you used curse words against me, is the moment you lost this argument.

I cannot lose if I use legitimate facts. Not for one moment have I insulted you,
or said hey, criminals are also too OP. I respect criminals because they are the main reason I am .S.W.A.T, and without them, I would have no fun in game.

Thank you

Thank you!

[OsamaAbouelhassan]

Why you people complain about SWAT features and never take a close looks at your features? The black market made it even more and more harder for us to do our duties peacefully and free of struggling, you got shocks with extra charges, taze reflectors, other stuff and most importantly SWAT bomb jammers, so basically, you have a feature that disables the bomb completely, also you should know that the bomb did inflict damage to nearby innocents/cops before and the kill didn't count for the SWAT member who used it, thanks to the developers, this improvement is now implemented.

[Shady]

It's indeed OP and I'd like to support this suggestion. Makes no sense to get oneshot killed, especially when you're in a vehicle. Even RPG takes 3-4 hits to kill and it's very hard to aim+limited by strict rules.

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The worse part is that it crashes the game of whoever is driving the vehicle. I've said this countless times and it's being ignored. If this happened to a newbie,we ain't giving a very good first impression of the server.

[ackman]

It's indeed OP and I'd like to support this suggestion. Makes no sense to get oneshot killed, especially when you're in a vehicle. Even RPG takes 3-4 hits to kill and it's very hard to aim+limited by strict rules.

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The worse part is that it crashes the game of whoever is driving the vehicle. I've said this countless times and it's being ignored. If this happened to a newbie,we ain't giving a very good first impression of the server.

Your same as me, i even got banned because of this bomb, whenever i talk about it, either swat members start arguing, they are like (criminals have vortex) but the fuck they dont know, criminals donates for it and rb is easy thing to avoid vortex or whenever talks about it on forums i'm being ignored or roasted because mostly swat members supports it.

They must have restrictions like Rhino.
/su restriction should be also added aswell. (swat can /su)
or if they wanna use it without restrictions, swat members may buy bomb from donation shop for XX Dps.

And nothing much to say because Deadly's reply is enough.

I hope i do not get ignore this time..

[ackman]

Why you people complain about SWAT features and never take a close looks at your features? The black market made it even more and more harder for us to do our duties peacefully and free of struggling, you got shocks with extra charges, taze reflectors, other stuff and most importantly SWAT bomb jammers, so basically, you have a feature that disables the bomb completely, also you should know that the bomb did inflict damage to nearby innocents/cops before and the kill didn't count for the SWAT member who used it, thanks to the developers, this improvement is now implemented.

Dude look,

SWAT bomb jammer mostly bug, if we have put it somewhere wrong by mistake, we cant evemln pick it up back.

As for the rest things, look.

Example:

A criminal is driving a car and the 2 swat members with bomb coming on bike, criminal car exploded, then swat member took almost 2 seconds hardly to explode the bomb

SWAT members already type the command, when criminal gets out they just press enter (get outs the car) and explodes the bomb in 2s

We cannot use shocks in this time,
We cannot use tazeref in this time (because he never taze.. no use)
We cannot use copbat in this time

Thats all

[ChickenMcNugget]

Sorry for the grammar in advance but yeah i think there should be some changes or rules added to the bomb. First of all its very rare to see the detonator bugging or disconnecting the user. Its more common that the criminal gets disconnected (couple hours of experience with the bomb).

You fellas are talking about that army has this and this. Army member does not posses the threat that swat does. Yeah they have tanks and whatnot's but still, hardly you see them used.

And its rare that you counter a swat member alone so the outcome of engaging a swat member is either getting killed by a bomb or being outnumbered and dragged.

I do not own a suggestion myself how to nerf it but it seems deadly gave you a few decent options.

[Geri]

The bomb is fully nerfable. Remember, that if we get things unbalanced, then, it wont be challenging anymore. We only have a chance to use the bomb, and we need to be in a close range and very careful. You still have the opportunity to jam it, and 30 seconds is more than enough, regarding to its rage. Swat bomb jammer is not buggy at all and also has a large range. It doesn't only stop you from bombing, but it stops all the swat members from doing so, with a bomb. If we do compare at army, there is the rhino which is a tank and has a huge support. It is slow indeed, but it can take out a whole cophunt. Unlike the rhino, you don't have any extra health with the bomb, but the bomb is more powerful. Also, unlike the rhino, the bomb can be used once only.
Imagine if all the swat features were removed. It would probably be a dream come true for some criminals and what they say would be right ''Swats without a bomb are like bunch of cops in a vehicle.''. Everyone would kill swat and again and again. Till, well, its not fun anymore. Without some challenge, it isn't really fun. When writing suggestions, make sure to think on both sides, rather than showing your madness because you got bombed once or more.
As long as the bomb is fully nerfable and there are no bugs/glitches in it, i don't think there should be any less features on swat regarding the bomb, or any extra features on criminals regarding the bomb. I believe that it is good the way it is. I personally have jammed the swat bomb. I copied the command and when a swat was coming close, i just pasted it. The range was far enough and he couldn't detonate it. If he did detonate it. me and the others would be dead, so it is really helpful and easy to use.