Illuminati Thread, why not.

[Reda]

yo waddup juice, do i have illuminati in my signatures?

[EWB]

+1 Ribsey and Mitko.

I think all of you should stop being so much against Juice. He is just trying to warn you. It's not like he is trying to trip on ya with all this talk.

Most of you don't know the story behind Illuminati and how it originated. It's a historical fact that a cult named Illuminati has existed. It was formed in the 14th century by scientists and other high knowledged people who were against the catholic church (like almost every scientist and supporters of science are). The cult counted well-known Renaissance artists, including Galileo Galilei (the inventor of the telescope) and Bernini (a famous sculptor), who also created the Illuminati symbols.

I believe this cult still exists on, and their worst enemy is still the church, which is why they're spreading these pagan symbols that honor the devil everywhere in our society. Somehow their work has paid of as I see more and more people shitting on religion. I'm glad I'm not as ignorant as them, though.

Beware.

I agree that the Illuminati was with science and against the catholic church, but comparing Illuminati's power then and now, it would be no problem for them to deal with the church. They could wipe out every single church on earth, but they keep them to control people. One of the greatest forms of control is religion. They control MASSES this way and Juice is a perfect example. He defends what he believes in and nothing will change his mind.

Nothing will change my mind either. What you are trying to say doesn't hold water. Illuminati are sworn enemies of the catholic church, so don't accuse them of cooperating with them and using religion as a tool to control humans. Why would they ever do so? (I know USA and Islam are sworn enemies as well, yet they cooperate, but that's a total different case, so before you start to use that as an example - don't.) Are you seriously stupid enough to believe that some scientists who are mad at religion can cooperate with God, or that he even would be interested in such?

Another way to control people, and what I consider easier, is brainwashing. Hitler could convert a whole nation to be Nazi's by using propaganda, so why wouldn't the Illuminati be able to do the same? It's even easier now a days with televisions, computers and cellphones. Everything is flooded with hidden symbolism, even Disney movies (Walt Disney was Nazi), and that is how they aim to control people. And you can't deny the fact that it is working for them, unfortunately.

Religion isn't as powerful as weapon to control people as it were back in the days, and it was never meant to be used that way. Religion is basically falling off. More and more people startng to shit on religion, because now we got all this wonderful technology, so why do we need a God?, is what they think. The answer is simple, but hard to comprehend.

[Mitko]

Just to point out that USA and The Islam are not sworn enemies. USA are using The Islam for an excuse of what they do to themselves. None of the attacks made against the USA were done by muslims, they were the one to be blamed for. They are just scaring the population so it fear and the only place it could look for help is the government. That way they suppress the people's free will and abridge them from options.

[Sk1pper]

Religion's main purpose is to control people, but there is a good side. There is a balance. If nobody would believe in god there would be chaos in the world. Why would they every do so? Because it's the perfect way to do it. People put their whole lives into god's hands, not knowing that they are fooled. And we are not talking about some scientists, Illuminati doesn't consist of scientists, we are talking about a worldwide secret society.

[Policajac]

Juice, you should be banned for talking so much bullshiiiiiiiiiit.

You too

[Eagle]

Juice, you should be banned for talking so much bullshiiiiiiiiiit.

You too

Os batina?

[EWB]

Just to point out that USA and The Islam are not sworn enemies. USA are using The Islam for an excuse of what they do to themselves. None of the attacks made against the USA were done by muslims, they were the one to be blamed for. They are just scaring the population so it fear and the only place it could look for help is the government. That way they suppress the people's free will and abridge them from options.

Yes, that was my point, lol. I know all that already.

Religion's main purpose is to control people, but there is a good side. There is a balance. If nobody would believe in god there would be chaos in the world. Why would they every do so? Because it's the perfect way to do it. People put their whole lives into god's hands, not knowing that they are fooled. And we are not talking about some scientists, Illuminati doesn't consist of scientists, we are talking about a worldwide secret society.

The Illuminati doesn't consist of scientist anymore, that is right. It goes far beyond that. The only people I know for sure is involved in Illuminati is the American government. And Cristianity has existed 1000 years longer than Illuminati, so how or why would they suddenly cooperate and attempt to control people and make a New World Order? I could understand your point if it was Illuminati who created religion, but it wasn't. It was and is totally opposite - they're fighting against it.

I have experienced more than enough relgious signs throughout my life to know for a fact that God is real. You are not religious (I assume?), so I don't really understand how you can talk about whether religion is true or false as you have never tried it yourself. It's kinda like reviewing a movie you never saw.

[Sk1pper]

Just to point out that USA and The Islam are not sworn enemies. USA are using The Islam for an excuse of what they do to themselves. None of the attacks made against the USA were done by muslims, they were the one to be blamed for. They are just scaring the population so it fear and the only place it could look for help is the government. That way they suppress the people's free will and abridge them from options.

Yes, that was my point, lol. I know all that already.

Religion's main purpose is to control people, but there is a good side. There is a balance. If nobody would believe in god there would be chaos in the world. Why would they every do so? Because it's the perfect way to do it. People put their whole lives into god's hands, not knowing that they are fooled. And we are not talking about some scientists, Illuminati doesn't consist of scientists, we are talking about a worldwide secret society.

The Illuminati doesn't consist of scientist anymore, that is right. It goes far beyond that. The only people I know for sure is involved in Illuminati is the American government. And Cristianity has existed 1000 years longer than Illuminati, so how or why would they suddenly cooperate and attempt to control people and make a New World Order? I could understand your point if it was Illuminati who created religion, but it wasn't. It was and is totally opposite - they're fighting against it.

I have experienced more than enough relgious signs throughout my life to know for a fact that God is real. You are not religious (I assume?), so I don't really understand how you can talk about whether religion is true or false as you have never tried it yourself. It's kinda like reviewing a movie you never saw.

If I'm an atheist that doesn't mean I didn't try religion. I tried it, and it didn't FEEL anything. You know, I think god will understand me if choose not to believe in a book that has been written thousands of years ago or who knows when it was written, nobody does. I did not do anything wrong, I did not do anything evil, there is no point for god to send me to hell.
Now back to normal talk. Every-single-religion had been created by the Illuminati. They can change history by a snap of a finger and it will appear in every history book in school and it will be considered as truth. We still cannot state facts what was created when and how everything works, because we are collecting information from sources that have been made by some people and those people got it from others and so on and so on. False information becomes true this way and some information stays true, but the problem is that we cannot distinguish the difference, only by our own opinions.

[Policajac]

Juice, you should be banned for talking so much bullshiiiiiiiiiit.

You too

Os batina?

[EWB]

If I'm an atheist that doesn't mean I didn't try religion. I tried it, and it didn't FEEL anything. You know, I think god will understand me if choose not to believe in a book that has been written thousands of years ago or who knows when it was written, nobody does. I did not do anything wrong, I did not do anything evil, there is no point for god to send me to hell.
Now back to normal talk. Every-single-religion had been created by the Illuminati. They can change history by a snap of a finger and it will appear in every history book in school and it will be considered as truth. We still cannot state facts what was created when and how everything works, because we are collecting information from sources that have been made by some people and those people got it from others and so on and so on. False information becomes true this way and some information stays true, but the problem is that we cannot distinguish the difference, only by our own opinions.

The youngest of the big monotheistic religions were created around year 630, which is 900 years before Illuminati was created - so what makes you believe that Illuminati created these? Jesus created Christianity, and there's proofs that he lived as well as other things mentioned in the book can also be proven, eg. Peters grave in the Vatican. These proofs are not just what you call "a book that has been written long ago." And for your knowledge, it is known when the Bible was written down, so neither that is unknown like you say. It was writting down around year 60-120 by people who actually KNEW Jesus. I'd consider a such book truthful than what you have read on Wikipedia about Illuminati.

And why do you assume that God will send everyone who doesn't believe in him to Hell? Every human being is considered good for him, whether they are Cristian or not. Furthermore, what makes you believe in Hell? Hell is an illusion. The Bible doesn't say anything about such place as a Hell. I find it kinda contradictiorary that you believe in Hell while you're preaching about Illuminati can change history with a snap of a finger and make everyone believe it, considering that Hell is an Illusion created by the Catholic church to make people pay for their sins so they wouldn't go there.