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[Lsrcr]Oggy wrote:

GreaTSaN wrote:

[Lsrcr]Oggy wrote:

So the sky can literally fall on people's heads? Stars too?

Please elaborate your question. Tell me what you're actually trying to ask?

Qur'an 34:9

Look at the second question on this topic viewtopic.php?f=70&t=84824

GreaTSaN wrote:

[Lsrcr]Oggy wrote:

GreaTSaN wrote:

Please elaborate your question. Tell me what you're actually trying to ask?

Qur'an 34:9

Look at the second question on this topic viewtopic.php?f=70&t=84824

The atmosphere weighs a lot more than what you say. And no, the clouds will never fall down like that. The only way a cloud comes down is in the form of rain and snow. Even if the winds stopped and a cloud decided to fall down, then it'd melt down completely by the heat produced during the descent.

Okay to those who don't believe in God and Islam, explain me that:
Alright lets go in old era when wars & battles were fought by men with sword, horses, elephants. There was a fight between Muslims & non-muslims (Quraish). This battle is known as battle of Badr. The Muslims army led by Prophet Muhammad PBUH was 313 men in total while the non Muslim army was 3x times bigger which was 1000 men. How Muslims with 3x lower army Won this battle without God's help? (According to you)
We Muslims believe it was Allah's help with Muslims army that's why they won it because before the battle, Prophet Muhammad PBUh prayed before Allah that "if you didn't enlighten us with victory, Islam will perish from Earth."

Sonit wrote:

Okay to those who don't believe in God and Islam, explain me that:
Alright lets go in old era when wars & battles were fought by men with sword, horses, elephants. There was a fight between Muslims & non-muslims (Quraish). This battle is known as battle of Badr. The Muslims army led by Prophet Muhammad PBUH was 313 men in total while the non Muslim army was 3x times bigger which was 1000 men. How Muslims with 3x lower army Won this battle without God's help? (According to you)
We Muslims believe it was Allah's help with Muslims army that's why they won it because before the battle, Prophet Muhammad PBUh prayed before Allah that "if you didn't enlighten us with victory, Islam will perish from Earth."

So by what you are saying, God is encouraging Muslims to fight and kill whoever is non-muslim?

Shaco wrote:

Sonit wrote:

Okay to those who don't believe in God and Islam, explain me that:
Alright lets go in old era when wars & battles were fought by men with sword, horses, elephants. There was a fight between Muslims & non-muslims (Quraish). This battle is known as battle of Badr. The Muslims army led by Prophet Muhammad PBUH was 313 men in total while the non Muslim army was 3x times bigger which was 1000 men. How Muslims with 3x lower army Won this battle without God's help? (According to you)
We Muslims believe it was Allah's help with Muslims army that's why they won it because before the battle, Prophet Muhammad PBUH prayed before Allah that "if you didn't enlighten us with victory, Islam will perish from Earth."

So by what you are saying, God is encouraging people to fight and kill whoever is non-muslim?

LOL
I'd rather suggest you to google "battle of Badr" and read it. It was the non-Muslims (Quraish) who raised the first step for a battle due to their hatred with Prophet Muhammad PBUH.

Sonit wrote:

LOL
I'd rather suggest you to google "battle of Badr" and read it. It was the non-Muslims (Quraish) who raised the first step for a battle due to their hatred with Prophet Muhammad PBUH.

That doesn't answer my question though. It's irrelevant who started the battle. According to what you're saying, God helped and allowed Muslims to fight non-muslims because they disagreed and hated Prophet Muhammad. As far as i'm concerned on beliefs God loves everyone and doesn't like war.

Sonit wrote:

Shaco wrote:

Sonit wrote:

Okay to those who don't believe in God and Islam, explain me that:
Alright lets go in old era when wars & battles were fought by men with sword, horses, elephants. There was a fight between Muslims & non-muslims (Quraish). This battle is known as battle of Badr. The Muslims army led by Prophet Muhammad PBUH was 313 men in total while the non Muslim army was 3x times bigger which was 1000 men. How Muslims with 3x lower army Won this battle without God's help? (According to you)
We Muslims believe it was Allah's help with Muslims army that's why they won it because before the battle, Prophet Muhammad PBUH prayed before Allah that "if you didn't enlighten us with victory, Islam will perish from Earth."

So by what you are saying, God is encouraging people to fight and kill whoever is non-muslim?

LOL
I'd rather suggest you to google "battle of Badr" and read it. It was the non-Muslims (Quraish) who raised the first step for a battle due to their hatred with Prophet Muhammad PBUH.

Except for hadiths and biographies of Muhammad, there is little evidence outside of these of the battle. In a lot of the ancient wars, it has been written about by both sides of the war, not just one.

No one who doesn't believe in Islam should have to explain this to you because they might not actually believe the battle ever existed. I am not saying I don't believe in the battle or whatever, I'm just saying your argument is not even remotely valid.

And I understand Shaco's point, surely if he could send so many angels to assist the muslims, he could have tried to send some to convince the others instead. Such a powerful god would most definitely have the ability to stop the war.

Also, I did google the battle of Badr, not everyone agrees it was in self-defense.

Check out this topic: https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-speci ... t-badr-war

Shaco, your question makes sense. I'm not at home right now but as soon as I get home, I'd reply with full explanation for you to understand what really happened. I'd also advise Sonit not to answer without proper explanation. If you don't have full explanation then please don't reply.