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Post by [MOB]ibrar.123 » May 15, 2019, 10:32 am
Nikola wrote:
-1.

Removing cuffs from Army makes it exclusively DM faction, and this server ain't it.

Stop being hypocritical, and learn that you're not the only one trying to enjoy this game, sometimes you will be killed/arrested, sometimes you will kill and rob a player, nerfing things to this extent only causes more issues, and more possibilities for future nerfing, and due to some of it, game has already taken a big hit of disagreement from both criminal and LEO side, causing these countless issues and complaints.

It's simple, don't want to die, do your best to keep distance from an army member, or go to a cop and get arrested, it's really up to you, learn your way around the issues you have.
How does that relate it to dm facation lmao completely irrelevant. This is not even a suggestion bro and what you think does not mean everyone thinks the same .
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Post by Nikola » May 15, 2019, 1:25 pm
[MOB]ibrar.123 wrote:
Nikola wrote:
-1.

Removing cuffs from Army makes it exclusively DM faction, and this server ain't it.

Stop being hypocritical, and learn that you're not the only one trying to enjoy this game, sometimes you will be killed/arrested, sometimes you will kill and rob a player, nerfing things to this extent only causes more issues, and more possibilities for future nerfing, and due to some of it, game has already taken a big hit of disagreement from both criminal and LEO side, causing these countless issues and complaints.

It's simple, don't want to die, do your best to keep distance from an army member, or go to a cop and get arrested, it's really up to you, learn your way around the issues you have.
How does that relate it to dm facation lmao completely irrelevant. This is not even a suggestion bro and what you think does not mean everyone thinks the same .
By striping away the possibility of arresting criminals (either by an Army member's choice, assistance for other LEOs, etc) you promote DM way of playing the game, and as far as I am aware this is a role-play server, therefore it certainly does relate. If you like the DM aspect of game-play, you're free to play on DM servers.

About your last sentence, read it again, but very slowly. Perhaps you will be able to fathom that it's not about everyone thinking the same, it's about you respecting what others have to say, and not just pushing your narrative without taking into account the opinions of others. It is a community after all, so there's something to think about.

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Post by Fady » May 15, 2019, 3:48 pm
[MOB]ibrar.123 wrote:
Its not about having 2 cuffs while being in army class or very limited range of cuffing . The point is if civilians(Wanted) cant use anything against army from the blackmarket (except drugs). Then cuff should also be removed from the army class they should be able to kill only. You guys are stating the situation is hard while 1 v 5 well that does not make sense at all even i have seen army with cops teaming up and criminals going 3 v 1.
Aside from what Nikola said, which is pretty much what I was going to say, I've highlighted some of your words and will be explaining them below.
Before blackmarket was a thing in this game, it was a casual taze and shock between cops and criminals and whoever is more skilled won. Back then, tazes were limited to 3, and because people used to abuse it and use more than 3, the tazer gun being recharged was added. While tazer gun was limited to only 3 tazes, criminals were still able to use upto 6 shocks (12 nowadays) which put cops in a slight disadvantage.

Later on, blackmarket was added, which, I believe, was one of the most unbalanced additions to the game. Not only did blackmarket give criminals un-necessary advantages over LEOs because they seem to not be able to get around situations and decide to make suggestions, but it also ruined the simplicity of the game, which was a casual duel between cops and criminals.

The new era of the Lsrcr players is more of cophunting and DM rather than the old one which was half-roleplay and half-cops vs criminals. With the new players, changes were made to please them since they weren't able to adapt to changes. However, these changes brought more and more changes, which, in turn, caused the quandry we're having as of now.

What I believe, and what I think a few others can agree with, would be reverting many of the updates made "excluding SWAT bomb of course because it promoted DM and wasn't meant for the faction"

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Post by MichL1337 » May 15, 2019, 5:55 pm
[MOB]ibrar.123 wrote:
Its not about having 2 cuffs while being in army class or very limited range of cuffing . The point is if civilians(Wanted) cant use anything against army from the blackmarket (except drugs). Then cuff should also be removed from the army class they should be able to kill only. You guys are stating the situation is hard while 1 v 5 well that does not make sense at all even i have seen army with cops teaming up and criminals going 3 v 1.
You can /stun the army member using copbat which is available at blackmarket.
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Post by Juicy » May 15, 2019, 7:38 pm
This is just proof that players are literally are pissed off cause they can't kill armies by shock spamming. I said this earlier and I'm gonna say it again. Back in the day, it was all okay for any LEO to get in a 5 vs 1 situation getting shock spammed by players on drugs and getting their pms spammed with "hhhhhhhhhhhh nop go lerna duel". Now since y'all can't shock armies and don't know any tactics except /sh spamming, it's safe to say that you should move on. Nikola said everything pretty clearly, this is not a DM server, basically you are promoting DM. Also, preventing Army members to arrest is a whole new thing, that would make it hell since it is allowed to arrest in certain situations. Do you remember when y'all got buffed 2 times and LEOs got nerfed 2 times for no apparent reason?

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Post by [MOB]ibrar.123 » May 15, 2019, 10:37 pm
xDeadlyKiller wrote:
[MOB]ibrar.123 wrote:
Its not about having 2 cuffs while being in army class or very limited range of cuffing . The point is if civilians(Wanted) cant use anything against army from the blackmarket (except drugs). Then cuff should also be removed from the army class they should be able to kill only. You guys are stating the situation is hard while 1 v 5 well that does not make sense at all even i have seen army with cops teaming up and criminals going 3 v 1.
Aside from what Nikola said, which is pretty much what I was going to say, I've highlighted some of your words and will be explaining them below.
Before blackmarket was a thing in this game, it was a casual taze and shock between cops and criminals and whoever is more skilled won. Back then, tazes were limited to 3, and because people used to abuse it and use more than 3, the tazer gun being recharged was added. While tazer gun was limited to only 3 tazes, criminals were still able to use upto 6 shocks (12 nowadays) which put cops in a slight disadvantage.

Later on, blackmarket was added, which, I believe, was one of the most unbalanced additions to the game. Not only did blackmarket give criminals un-necessary advantages over LEOs because they seem to not be able to get around situations and decide to make suggestions, but it also ruined the simplicity of the game, which was a casual duel between cops and criminals.

The new era of the Lsrcr players is more of cophunting and DM rather than the old one which was half-roleplay and half-cops vs criminals. With the new players, changes were made to please them since they weren't able to adapt to changes. However, these changes brought more and more changes, which, in turn, caused the quandry we're having as of now.

What I believe, and what I think a few others can agree with, would be reverting many of the updates made "excluding SWAT bomb of course because it promoted DM and wasn't meant for the faction"
Well replying to you first Deadlykiller , i got your point very clearly but the problem is the number of criminals or members playing in civilian skin has decreased as per before. Whenever you join the server you will find more members in l.e.o skin which proves that the thing which used to be before has changed and people are joining Cop skin more than getting in civilian which doesn't matter to me . But the point is Army members should be given more things with whatever they are lacking i agree on that but make sure its balanced with the civilians skins as well. Army staff is not moving forward with any improvement the members are struggling hard to request the Ls-rcr administration to get new things i have no idea why. What mainly i am suggesting is if army is lacking behind in things they should improve it and try to make suggestion topics to support and see what the community members have their opinions on it .

Where as coming up to nikola points i am not even pointing at arresting a wanted or not its not that i want to remove the part of army arresting players around but the thing is if the person can't stop an army by anyhow the army team shouldnt event be given the priority to /cuff. I am not supporting DM by anyhow nor by gameplay nor by my suggestion made mate. DM is no where near my suggestion and will never be. My main point is to make it balance by somehow.
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Post by e.e » May 15, 2019, 10:59 pm
[MOB]ibrar.123 wrote:
I know army members are gona vote -1 or negative for this because they are getting daily free kills and score for this and rest of you whoever is saying negative makes me feel confused. If swat and cops can get shocked why army can't why is it given this priority and why are people being forced into dueling game play where as not with swat and cops it does not relate anyhow! It clearly makes it equal and balanced while shocks and tazes are for civilians and swat , leo and army.
Because the main task of army is to KILL. If you encounter an army member, he'll fight to death no matter what - there shouldn't be shocking/tazing bullshit, just pure fighting skill. This has nothing to do with 'free kills' or whatever, im dying daily tons of times just like everyone else, because im getting overwhelmed by 2+ criminals / or losing 1v1's
This antishocking update made me actually enjoy playing again.

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Post by KinG_MahathiR » May 16, 2019, 3:35 am
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First of all when you could sh army and they used to ar you had problem going to alca. Now as staff are feed you with all complains and removed sh and taze both now you have problem with that. tell us exactly what you want.
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Post by Uzzwal. » May 16, 2019, 3:46 am
Just incase if blackmarket gets removed and I will agree with you.
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Post by Thursday » May 16, 2019, 10:33 am
why dont just lock this already, no need to revert it.
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