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[*Sunday*]

@Juice

Alright, you got proof, you don't ever doubt yourself nor anything else because you know everything. You're a perfect human being who makes no mistakes, that's why you consider that you can't be possibly wrong, there is no doubt to that. You have your opinions, or as you call them facts and you'll stick to them because you have proof, no reason to ever doubt it, right?

Think about it, have you ever thought proof might be fake, wrong... That there was mistake... You are bound to fail because you're just a human, nothing better than the rest on the end of the day. As long as you allow your ego to lead you you'll never be able to understand other people nor what the truth is.

[*Sunday*]

After we didn't listen to God, this world became mortal and so the life on it. There won't be any evil in the heaven. This life is just a test phase for us because we all betrayed our God. And yes, if you have no doubts abour religion, you've chose the wrong religion.

Exactly, that's what I'm trying to explain the whole time. Evil is not here to work against God but to help him to punish/test us. But for us humans, evil is bad and we should avoid it by all costs.

[Juice.]

I honestly belive you are a wise man Juice. You know things others will never understand. I do admire this, however somethimes you overthink IMO. Ive got an tattoo of a eye aswell (sholder) but not becuz of illuminati but because my grandmother told me she will always keep an eye on me just before she passed out.

Not everything is bad! No offense just curios as you see something bad in almost everything, i wonder how life still can be joyable then.

Thanks. You admire it but it comes with a price. The fact of knowing a certain area of things very well is tough sometimes because I'll probably never get to share most of it. We're discussing things I learned in the mid-late 90s. You know like I know, review sucks but I've stuck with it since its where we're stuck at in this community.

I don't feel I overthink things. I know i have the ability to break down things in a way hopefully all can understand. I never said everything was bad. Tell me, if u want to poisen a mouse then u leave traps in areas he goes right? Same goes for poisening humans. They put it where ever we go... Music, movies, video games, tv, ads, billboards, clothing lines, food label just so they can poisen us all day, everyday.


I have a great life. I have God. I have the job of my dreams, All three of my dream cars, paid for. I'm paying on my dream truck right now. I have no kids. I'm dating the second most beautiful girl i ever have. I'm attending college soon. I have tons of associates. I have my loyal team of friends and family. I have a clean bill of health. Body wise, I'm in the best shape of my life, 2lb lower than the right weight for my height. I have a bright future ahead of me. I have a defense to all this poisen i speak of.


The eye tat is just an example of allegiance to the all seeing eye. Having a tat at all is enough. It's vandalizing something that belongs to God. God said our body is a temple and you will one day have to explain why you painted over his creation.

[Juice.]

Every topic in this section turns into an argument and Juice is always in it.

Also in each topic you know nothing so you post useless crap to cover that fact up.


ps. what about the topic where they are discussing abortion? I have no comment there at all. See what happens when you bring opinions to a table of facts? You get denied.

Your ego is enormous. Therefore, You will always think that you are correct even when your wrong. If you cannot see this, Then you truly are a stupid person.

I post only when I know about something fully. Others wise I listen. You talk when you clearly need to be listening. I know what I'm talking about because that's the only time I talk. If I lack info, I remain silent so I can learn. I wonder what type of student you were.

[Juice.]

@Juice

Alright, you got proof, you don't ever doubt yourself nor anything else because you know everything. You're a perfect human being who makes no mistakes, that's why you consider that you can't be possibly wrong, there is no doubt to that. You have your opinions, or as you call them facts and you'll stick to them because you have proof, no reason to ever doubt it, right?

I know that sarcasm is brought about because of insecurity. So your insecurities are showing right now. I use facts of professionals that I too believe. You can say I'm wrong but you don't know for example... I'm telling you how to get rich, u say I'm wrong and stupid but don't know what you call my opinion is in fact a quote from bill gates. A guy worth about 300 billion. So when u say I'm wrong, u are saying bill gates doesn't know how to make money lol which is retarded.

Think about it, have you ever thought proof might be fake, wrong... That there was mistake... You are bound to fail because you're just a human, nothing better than the rest on the end of the day. As long as you allow your ego to lead you you'll never be able to understand other people nor what the truth is.

You can bring your opinions and cry all you want. Now that your insecurities are showing, I'm just beating a dead corpse

I've studied humans very extensively. That's one topic I know frontwards and backwards, inside and out. Bet against me if u don't want your money.


I still say you're brave for defending something as stupid as doubt lol +1.

[*Sunday*]

@Juice

Alright, you got proof, you don't ever doubt yourself nor anything else because you know everything. You're a perfect human being who makes no mistakes, that's why you consider that you can't be possibly wrong, there is no doubt to that. You have your opinions, or as you call them facts and you'll stick to them because you have proof, no reason to ever doubt it, right?

I know that sarcasm is brought about because of insecurity. So your insecurities are showing right now. I use facts of professionals that I too believe. You can say I'm wrong but you don't know for example... I'm telling you how to get rich, u say I'm wrong and stupid but don't know what you call my opinion is in fact a quote from bill gates. A guy worth about 300 billion. So when u say I'm wrong, u are saying bill gates doesn't know how to make money lol which is retarded.

Alright, you said you have facts, facts are backed up with proof. Now please post some of your proof that doubt is bad. I'm claiming doubt is an useful tool of God to test us against evil, to make us stronger and to make us think about things, what's right and what's wrong. Disapprove me with your proof/facts. Oh and try not to use Bible quotes, thank you.

Think about it, have you ever thought proof might be fake, wrong... That there was mistake... You are bound to fail because you're just a human, nothing better than the rest on the end of the day. As long as you allow your ego to lead you you'll never be able to understand other people nor what the truth is.

You can bring your opinions and cry all you want. Now that your insecurities are showing, I'm just beating a dead corpse

I've studied humans very extensively. That's one topic I know frontwards and backwards, inside and out. Bet against me if u don't want your money.

I have assumed that you have studied humans because the whole time you're trying to manipulate this discussion using petty methods. This should be an objective discussion, argument vs argument. What you did is constantly deemed me unworthy, even insulted me and pretty much disapproved my credibility as a person - just so you don't face the argument. Juice, an argument is an argument like every other, it doesn't matter who it comes from. We're here to discuss ideas, not persons. So nice try I must say.

I still say you're brave for defending something as stupid as doubt lol +1.

Once again manipulation, you're mocking me for my stupidity just to approve yourself. C'mon, post facts against my opinion, you're not gonna hide behind that "you doubt your opinion is nothing" or "you're a loser lol m8" attitude?

[Juice.]

Alright, you said you have facts, facts are backed up with proof. Now please post some of your proof that doubt is bad. I'm claiming doubt is an useful tool of God to test us against evil, to make us stronger and to make us think about things, what's right and what's wrong. Disapprove me with your proof/facts. Oh and try not to use Bible quotes, thank you.

Oh ok and next you'll want me to talk about science without using a science book. Get a brain boy.

I have assumed that you have studied humans because the whole time you're trying to manipulate this discussion using petty methods. This should be an objective discussion, argument vs argument. What you did is constantly deemed me unworthy, even insulted me and pretty much disapproved my credibility as a person - just so you don't face the argument. Juice, an argument is an argument like every other, it doesn't matter who it comes from. We're here to discuss ideas, not persons. So nice try I must say.

I haven't used any methods lol I'm just letting you type and show your lack of knowledge on your own. You're doing pretty good at it.

ps. I don't try.

I still say you're brave for defending something as stupid as doubt lol +1.

Once again manipulation, you're mocking me for my stupidity (Notice how he takes ownership of stupidity, "My stupidity" LOLLLLLL) just to approve yourself. C'mon, post facts against my opinion, you're not gonna hide behind that "you doubt your opinion is nothing" or "you're a loser lol m8" attitude?

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I'm not mocking you, I'm stating what is painfully obvious.


Doubt - to lack confidence (websters)

A working definition of doubt is “to lack confidence, to consider unlikely.” The very first expression of doubt in the Bible is in Genesis 3, when Satan tempted Eve. God had given a clear command regarding the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and had specified the consequence of disobedience. Satan introduced doubt into Eve’s mind when he asked, “Did God actually say, ‘You shall not eat of any tree in the garden’?” He wanted her to lack confidence in God’s command. When she affirmed God’s command, including the consequences, Satan replied with a denial, which is a stronger statement of doubt: “You will not surely die.” Doubt is a tool of Satan to make us lack confidence in God’s Word and consider His judgment unlikely.

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-doubt ... z33nNJhbSg



Man... I feel everyone knows this.. I guess I thought you were smarter than you truly are. My mistake. Ohhh there you go!!
I made a mistake. So much for you thinking I was perfect. Not to mention I have admitted many faults of mine around here and no one knows anything about you. It's fine though, I'm an open book and I'm not ashamed of who I am so I don't need to hide anything. You on the other hand are clearly a diff story.

No wonder you think I have a big ego... You have low self esteem and confidence issues. I'd love to take a look at your gf LOL or your accomplishments in life. Your lack of confidence shows... You even spilled sarcasm when you were feeling like a ant with a 500lb mans foot about to land on you and squash you to death. No wonder you back up doubt so much. YOU LACK CONFIDENCE and that is going to make for a crappy life until you do something about it.

[Juice.]

http://www.2jesus.org/doubt.html


DOUBT, THE DEVILS BEST WEAPON



http://www.livingbiblestudies.org/study/JT7/008.html


Doubt: A Device of Satan


http://www.chick.com/bc/2011/arrow.asp


Doubt! Satan's Sharpest Arrow



http://www.roadtobetterliving.com/HTML/ ... Tools.html


Six Effective Tools Used by Satan to Defeat you


Deception: Satan's most successful tool. He wields this tool with devastating results.
Doubt: Makes you question God's word and his goodness.
Discouragement: Makes you look at your problems rather than God.
Diversion: Makes the wrong things seem attractive so you want them more than the right things.
Defeat: Makes you feel like a failure so you don't even try.
Delay: Makes you put off something so it never gets started or completed.



(GOOD THING YOU DIDN'T BET ME SON, IT WOULD BE PAY TIME RIGHT NOW)

[*Sunday*]

Let me be clearer.

I believe your "facts" don't have any legit proof to back them up and therefore I consider everything you say an opinion, not fact. Prove me wrong and post proof to your facts. You can't claim something to be a fact unless you back it up with proof, that's common sense. "I have done research" "I know about these things" is not a proof, your words don't matter, show me actual proof.

I clearly asked you not to use the Bible and yet it seems that's the only thing you get your proof from. Bible quotes are terrible. I guess I could go ahead and quote God ordering a genocide... You should read the Bible exclusively as a metaphor and grasp the bigger picture/message, taking out quotes most of the times ends up in wrong interpretation of the Bible.

And once again, you are still stuck in your old way of thinking. I'm not speaking from a human's perspective, I'm using God's perspective when I say doubt is good. Every student will say exams suck but the teacher knows they are good for the students. Same thing with God and us. And you keep saying "doubt is Satan's tool to defeat you" YES, you're right. But doubt is bad only if you fail the test and succumb to it (just like exams are actually bad if you fail all of them, you'll fail your grade). But if you use doubt to test and strengthen your beliefs then it's a good tool, that's exactly what God wants. All brave warriors are tested in battle. So you could say battle is good for the warriors, but only if they don't get killed. Same thing with doubt.

The funniest thing of all is I actually understand your argument and I actually agree with most of the things you say. I just took a different (God's, higher) perspective, to gain better understanding of why doubt and evil are here. From 2 perspectives you can see 2 different things but they can be equally true.

[Juice.]

Let me be clearer.

I believe your "facts" don't have any legit proof to back them up and therefore I consider everything you say an opinion, not fact. Prove me wrong and post proof to your facts. You can't claim something to be a fact unless you back it up with proof, that's common sense. "I have done research" "I know about these things" is not a proof, your words don't matter, show me actual proof.

Compared to what you have provided you don't even belong here. You've provided nothing so I haven't even had to use any effort. You debate like a kid.. You beg beg beg, get something and then you moan and cry about what's been brought to you. Grow up kiddo. Bring me something to support your claims before you criticize. You have nothing but doubt. Now get.

I clearly asked you not to use the Bible and yet it seems that's the only thing you get your proof from. Bible quotes are terrible. I guess I could go ahead and quote God ordering a genocide... You should read the Bible exclusively as a metaphor and grasp the bigger picture/message, taking out quotes most of the times ends up in wrong interpretation of the Bible.

If we are talking about God we are talking about the Holy books. The only place that has original scripts about God. Are you not comprehending yet? I wouldn't tell you much about SCIENCE, without a SCIENCE BOOK.. If we are going to talk about GOD, we will discuss a GOD BOOK. get it yet? what is your malfunction. I'm fine with you wanting to explain God to me with any Holy Book.. It's justified because that's what the book is. You can use The Holy Bible, The Qur'an or any other book known as a Holy Book.

Where did you expect information about God to come from? a Gum wrapper?

Also, look at you telling me once again what I should do. I'm not taking ANY advice from a doubter. Just forget that idiocy.

And once again, you are still stuck in your old way of thinking. I'm not speaking from a human's perspective, I'm using God's perspective when I say doubt is good. Every student will say exams suck but the teacher knows they are good for the students. Same thing with God and us. And you keep saying "doubt is Satan's tool to defeat you" YES, you're right. But doubt is bad only if you fail the test and succumb to it (just like exams are actually bad if you fail all of them, you'll fail your grade). But if you use doubt to test and strengthen your beliefs then it's a good tool, that's exactly what God wants. All brave warriors are tested in battle. So you could say battle is good for the warriors, but only if they don't get killed. Same thing with doubt.

You're using God's perspective? A few post back you stated only a perfect person would be able to understand God (YOU ALSO CALLED ME THAT PERFECT PERSON WHO KNOWS ALL BUT NOW YOU SAY I AM WRONG, I DON'T KNOW, AND YOU DO.. der der) and know all so you are contradicting everything you had going for you. You just did /kill.

See the bold? "that's exactly what God wants" you ARE insane if you believe you know exactly what God wants.

ps. lay off the analogies, for your own good.




The funniest thing of all is I actually understand your argument and I actually agree with most of the things you say. I just took a different (God's, higher) perspective, to gain better understanding of why doubt and evil are here. From 2 perspectives you can see 2 different things but they can be equally true.

You said we are all just normal humans, none different from the rest. How is it that you can see from God's perspective? and if you can, How come we all can't see that perspective like you?

When you get done with those questions, post some supporting proof about your doubting lifestyle. Other wise, save your comments.