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Hiccup wrote:

I have a feeling you both keep replying and you don't even want to, because you think that you'd lose the argument. Tell you what, no. Believe in what you believe with full faith, and doesn't matters if others think that you are a loser, you don't need to force yourself to write, don't punish yourselves.

Juice. wrote:

Yeah you did try to give me insight.

A goal is something not yet accomplished. I have a HUGE list of goals. Also remember a goal is nothing with out a time frame of when you will accomplish it.


You begged me for universal proof and now you say it doesn't exist. You are very confused. Who asks for things they believe don't exist at all? Someone who's trolling does.

That's what I was trying to say, it doesn't exist. That's why I believe your facts don't have sufficient proof because such proof doesn't exist.

The truth will be revealed when you actively seek it.

Hiccup wrote:

I have a feeling you both keep replying and you don't even want to, because you think that you'd lose the argument. Tell you what, no. Believe in what you believe with full faith, and doesn't matters if others think that you are a loser, you don't need to force yourself to write, don't punish yourselves.

It's not a win lose thing for me. If you closely read his posts you can see the confusion, doubt, and uncertainty in what he says. If you read my posts you will see a man who is willing to die for what he believes. The blatant part is, I put his intellect in question since he's so doubtful and unsure of himself. Then he does the opposite by calling me very smart. It's clear I'm sure of what I believe.

If you were in a game you didn't want to lose... Would you choose the guy who says. "I will help you but I doubt i can" [sunday] or the guy who has a strategy and says "I will help you to destroy these guys, and quick too" [Juice]

I don't stress enough, the weakness and room left for error the moment you try. The second he typed try he never had a chance in this discussion. That's like a guy in a gun fight who just let me know he forgot to get bullets. He was dead when he got here bro. He was going to die even if he remembered ammo.

Even he said this was the greatest debate he's had in a long time. I don't feel that way at all. I was posting things i said here years ago.

You constantly keep bringing the argument to the arguer. I am sure in what I'm saying in this topic and my opinion will stay the same unless I see something I consider actual proof to change it. I'm not saying "I try to tell you my opinion", I am surely doing it. As said earlier many times I said doubt is a phase, not a constant. After doubt comes certainty. I overcame doubt and now I am here, sure in what I believe. But I'm not confident as you, where you'd die for your beliefs, just like a petty extremist. And being overly confident usually means being stubborn and close minded since you'd never ever change your opinion or view things another way. And this really was the greatest debate in the last month or two. Wanna know why I consider it great and you just an usual everyday discussion? Because I managed to learn something, about myself and the way our choices affect our lives. I don't believe you have learnt anything, all you did was sticking to your opinion with a death grip, not allowing anything to change your mind. That's not learning, that's resisting.

*Sunday* wrote:

Juice. wrote:

Yeah you did try to give me insight.

A goal is something not yet accomplished. I have a HUGE list of goals. Also remember a goal is nothing with out a time frame of when you will accomplish it.


You begged me for universal proof and now you say it doesn't exist. You are very confused. Who asks for things they believe don't exist at all? Someone who's trolling does.

That's what I was trying to say, it doesn't exist. That's why I believe your facts don't have sufficient proof because such proof doesn't exist.

You call me very smart and I say it does exist. It's easy to doubt something you've failed to achieve. Then you ca be lazy and give up. You give up on your goals.

Take the guys who say God doesn't exist because they don't accept proof. If you're right then so are they.

The truth will be revealed when you actively seek it.

Hiccup wrote:

I have a feeling you both keep replying and you don't even want to, because you think that you'd lose the argument. Tell you what, no. Believe in what you believe with full faith, and doesn't matters if others think that you are a loser, you don't need to force yourself to write, don't punish yourselves.

It's not a win lose thing for me. If you closely read his posts you can see the confusion, doubt, and uncertainty in what he says. If you read my posts you will see a man who is willing to die for what he believes. The blatant part is, I put his intellect in question since he's so doubtful and unsure of himself. Then he does the opposite by calling me very smart. It's clear I'm sure of what I believe.

If you were in a game you didn't want to lose... Would you choose the guy who says. "I will help you but I doubt i can" [sunday] or the guy who has a strategy and says "I will help you to destroy these guys, and quick too" [Juice]

I don't stress enough, the weakness and room left for error the moment you try. The second he typed try he never had a chance in this discussion. That's like a guy in a gun fight who just let me know he forgot to get bullets. He was dead when he got here bro. He was going to die even if he remembered ammo.

Even he said this was the greatest debate he's had in a long time. I don't feel that way at all. I was posting things i said here years ago.

You constantly keep bringing the argument to the arguer. I am sure in what I'm saying in this topic and my opinion will stay the same unless I see something I consider actual proof to change it. I'm not saying "I try to tell you my opinion", I am surely doing it. As said earlier many times I said doubt is a phase, not a constant. After doubt comes certainty. I overcame doubt and now I am here, sure in what I believe. But I'm not confident as you, where you'd die for your beliefs, just like a petty extremist.


You doubt your opinions too much to bet your life on it. I think that is good for you. If I didn't believe what I post, I wouldn't bet my life on it either. You lack proof, I do not. I'd bet everything I have on what I believe because my beliefs are strong and they have been tested.



being overly confident usually means being stubborn and close minded since you'd never ever change your opinion or view things another way.

It's only over confident to you because of your low self esteem, low confidence levels. I get it though, YOU have no proof to what you say. You better not believe it. I keep opinions away from discussion. I rather say what I know than say what I think might be true. Enjoy your opinions, I don't share opinions.

And this really was the greatest debate in the last month or two. Wanna know why I consider it great and you just an usual everyday discussion? Because I managed to learn something, about myself and the way our choices affect our lives. I don't believe you have learnt anything, all you did was sticking to your opinion with a death grip, not allowing anything to change your mind. That's not learning, that's resisting.

Juice. wrote:

I don't share opinions. If I do I clearly state that it's just an opinion. Opinions are the weak form of debating. You can deny my proof but look at your proof. Wait you never posted any... Universal or not. You're not brave enough to believe the things you type. I posted numerous outside sources while you sit here telling me what one 16 year old mind thinks.

I have not learned anything here. You're telling me what one teenager THINKS is true. A teenager who has provided no proof at all. It's nothing new. Noobs beg for proof and then deny it without ever providing any combat proof. Get a gun if you want to enter a gun fight.

You're not even in this conversation yet. I'm only watching you assume that you are. That's something that a "very smart" person [as you say] finds extremely effortless. I love to learn and I would love to learn something from you. You opinions supported with no others will never accomplish that.

You assume I'm here to prove anything to you. You will one day learn that to be false. You expect me to hold the hand of a low self esteem, doubting, contradicting skeptic until you get it? I'm not here to baby you. If you want to know, then seek and you will find. Maybe if you were my son, I'd hold your hand.

*Sunday* wrote:

You fail to understand me. Don't you understand that everybody approves a different kind of proof? What might be proof to you could be nothing to me, and vice-versa. I'm not saying your or my proof is any less true, I'm just saying you can't force 2 different minds to think like one. That's why I prefer to refer to my posts as "opinions" and not "facts" because if I use the word fact it means this has to be true for everybody.

You state opinions. I don't unless specifically announced that its an opinion. You think it matters to me if you accept what I post. I'm not going to force you. I owe you NOTHING. I don't even consider us friends. If you don't wise up, nothing changes for me. Your life is yours, so you deal with that. A teacher can teach but they can't force you to learn. They put the answers up and if you goof off then you fail. That teacher still gets paid, still has family, still has a life. You have falsely assumed the importance you play to me and my life lol

Technically my mental age is around 21 (actually tested it in a IQ test, by professionals). Don't be so shallow, why does it matter how old I am? You're trying to use my age to disapprove me but you obviously failed.

21 is still a kid in the real world. When you get at least 25 then you can hang with adults. First you need to prove something before I could disprove it. Wake up. A 21 yr old should know that. What's with you?


You're wrong, please do more research on this before you're going to argue that 25 is the age you're considered an adult. Human intelligence reaches its peak in average when you're about 17-18 years old and remains almost the same until you're around 40 when it begins to fall. This varies for everyone though but these are the average ages.

No. You're wrong. I never said when you are considered an adult at all. Read that post again ol useless debater. The Jews consider males to be men at 13.

21 is still a kid in the real world but you won't learn that yet. It's somethings you need to live for yourself to learn. This explains why its so much you don't know. You've barely lived. You still live with mommy. You pay no major bills. You have no net worth. No assets. You're not a man

As I said, posting proof is useless. Get a gun to enter a gun fight? Too bad I'm not using a gun, I'm using a pen. How are you supposed to oppose a pen to a gun? That's why we'll never agree on any proof, we just see it differently.

*Sunday* wrote:

You're wrong, please do more research on this before you're going to argue that 25 is the age you're considered an adult. Human intelligence reaches its peak in average when you're about 17-18 years old and remains almost the same until you're around 40 when it begins to fall. This varies for everyone though but these are the average ages.

No. You're wrong. I never said when you are considered an adult at all. Read that post again ol useless debater. The Jewish people people consider males to be men at 13.

21 is still a kid in the real world but you won't learn that yet. It's somethings you need to live for yourself to learn. This explains why its so much you don't know. You've barely lived. You still live with mommy. You pay no major bills. You have no net worth. No assets. You're not a man

No but you said I can hang with adults when I reach 25, that's just another way of saying I'm one of them. By your logic if I can't hang with them until 25 that means I can't be an adult yet.

Indeed, and that's what I stressed out in the next paragraph. Age includes way more things (like life experience for example) than just intelligence. And everybody becomes an adult at a different age, who are you to say what my development level is? Somebody aged 15 could have way more life experience than you Juice, it all depends what he had gone through in life.

No you took its as that as expected. An embryo always hangs with adults. lol They have been ever since humans existed

We're not discussing possibilities.

Also notice you're discussing age again, something that you claim to be meaningless in discussion.

Once again, you're wrong. I never claimed I was 21, I claimed my mental age is 21. Please look up what mental age means. Being actually 21 includes way more factors, not just having the intelligence. Age is totally meaningless in a discussion. Just because somebody is younger doesn't mean he has any advantage just because he knows less. This is not about advantages or whatever, it's all about sharing ideas and opinions. Just the way you speak about it tells me you view it as a fight.

No actually you're wrong. You missed the bigger picture I placed and you went to defend your age because you're insecure about it. Your last posts were about what now? AGE. YOU SAID "Age is totally meaningless in a discussion" LOL and what are you discussing? AGE. You're unbelievably insecure. You defend things you claim are meaningless to you Lol

You missed the bigger picture as expected... I said Do you think I will believe the mind of one 16 year old over the minds of experts? That's stupid kid. The big picture is you have one mind. Only. The experts are in the millions. Millions of experts OWNNNNNNNN you in a smarts contest. You see now that I know how insecure of a person you are, any tap into your reality and you crack wide open and forget everything else that was said. You are very useless here and as you said meaningless. You're defending something you call meaningless LOL I'm not sure you have one mind anymore.

Unfortunately the one opposite of me thinks hes smarter than millions of experts. I viewed this as a debate. It's now a useless, meaningless block of spam exposing the boy behind the name Sunday. Good luck. You'll need it. Try your best next time you post. You're getting sluggish.

And what if those experts are also 16 years old? You can't put someone's age VS someone's level of knowledge. You're automatically assuming the younger one knows less and therefore you discriminate him.

I said the age as a hurdle test and you didn't jump over it, you fell. (fail for it) After I explained that the bigger picture is how many minds you have vs millions, you got up and fell over the same hurdle twice.

Maybe this is a new concept for you but two heads are better than one. Millions of heads are better than one.

I never claimed I was superior to experts, I just claimed I have a different opinion from theirs. So just because a bunch of people say something is right you'd believe them based purely on the fact they dedicated their life to it?

No, I compare their findings with my own because I am an excellent debater. I have studied more bodies of information than you may ever.

Does that mean you'd trust everything the government tells since they pretty much dedicated their lives to it as well? You see where I'm going with this, right?

Yea, into an immature exaggerated rant so many weak debaters before you have also TRIED. I've seen this episode too many times already.

You choose what you believe. Experts may or may not help you but it's your own head and head and you decide what's right and wrong for you.

Nothing wrong with hearing what experts have to say and comparing and contrasting the information with your own. Just believe what ever you want, oh sorry... just doubt whatever you want man.. Who's stopping ya? You're the one here telling a guy you call "very smart" that hes wrong lol not me. Now how smart is that?

I retract my statement that I didn't learn anything. I learned a ton about you. I meant that I didn't learn anything useful.