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I'm going to share my thoughts about this.

Basically, it's all about your faith, I actually believe in "god". To be more exact, not god himself, but I do believe that there is something greater than us; the humans in this world., but I rather call it god.
I still have my faith in god because I find no reason not to, it's good to believe in something which is greater than yourself, it helps you psychologically and makes you feel much better.
Even through all this shit I'm diving through, that makes me stop believing in him, I don't. Cause I believed in him while I was livin' good you know..
But I don't believe that god must give you everything, even when you're sitting like a bitchass censored not doing anything. Cause I truly believe in hard word and dedication, nothing has a value comes easy, you must work inorder to have it.
And yeah, religions make this shit more complicated than ever, they say some shit in the name of the god that doesn't make any sense, and yet, people still fight and argue and all that shit over that bullshit that some devout censored said in the name of their god.

Hope I don't offend anyone with my sick ass thoughts though

Kaosx234 wrote:

[Lsrcr]Oggy wrote:

Kaosx234 wrote:

God has always been here and so were we. I am trying to say this, you cannot create anything with nothing (what is the beginning of space)?

Origin of space is The Big Bang and the reason for it to take place was called quantum fluctuations. If you don't knkw what that is, use WikiPedia. Before the Big Bang all matter and energy (both are the same thing) was concentrated in a single point. And after it, for every 1000001 matter particles that was created, only 1000000 anti-matter particle was created due to the same quantum fluctuations. This imbalance, over time created everything we know in the universe. The remaining matter and anti-matter anhilated up. God didn't make the galaxies, stars and planets. The Big Bang did. So there is no God.

I know here about the theory of the Big Bang more than probably anyone here, as I am going to be a scientist regarding Maths/Physics, so giving me lectures is just stupid. Your post is made of leads of things that are not even proven, and they will never be proven, because we, human, cannot prove but only give assumptions. You are trying to put your opinion as a fact but it is failing miserably.


Can I ask oyu, what was before a single point?

It's not just my opinion. It's what the latest science says but as we learn more and more about it, it may change. And one day, we when have enough technological advancement, we will be able to explain everything. So, if you were to ask me what was before the Big Bang, I'd say just only the single-point now because that's what the latest science says now.

Or if you want my opinion, I got some cool ideas which I'm willing to share if you want.

[Lsrcr]Oggy wrote:

Kaosx234 wrote:

NotAnAdmin wrote:

Okay, if God has always been here and so were we (quoting you here), then that means we have existed simultaneously. Which means, he could not have created us.
Also, space is a proven fact, it exists. The reason we don't know its constrains or its origin is simply as Oggy stated, lack of technology. Thus, it's a conjecture, as to where space begins and ends.

Too big words for you, Notan. Sadly you don't know how to use it.

Nonetheless, we created us humans. We always were there and we always will be - even after the death. Enjoy living YOLO.

ps. ToBB was never proven and will never be.

Of course it will be. We're trying to look deeper into space meaning backwards in time with mkre advanced telescopes. One day, with enough technological advancement, we will prove it.

Alright, call me once they've proven it. I will give you few more theories that are jumping out (nowadays even more than ToBB, Oscilate universe and Enternal inflation).

Kaosx234 wrote:

[Lsrcr]Oggy wrote:

Kaosx234 wrote:

Too big words for you, Notan. Sadly you don't know how to use it.

Nonetheless, we created us humans. We always were there and we always will be - even after the death. Enjoy living YOLO.

ps. ToBB was never proven and will never be.

Of course it will be. We're trying to look deeper into space meaning backwards in time with mkre advanced telescopes. One day, with enough technological advancement, we will prove it.

Alright, call me once they've proven it. I will give you few more theories that are jumping out (nowadays even more than ToBB, Oscilate universe and Enternal inflation).

Don't be so childish. You know that that's not gonna happen anytime soon.
Anyway, there are even more theories than that but the Big Bang is the most accepted theory which explains the formation of the universe.

[Lsrcr]Oggy wrote:

Kaosx234 wrote:

[Lsrcr]Oggy wrote:

Of course it will be. We're trying to look deeper into space meaning backwards in time with mkre advanced telescopes. One day, with enough technological advancement, we will prove it.

Alright, call me once they've proven it. I will give you few more theories that are jumping out (nowadays even more than ToBB, Oscilate universe and Enternal inflation).

Don't be so childish. You know that that's not gonna happen anytime soon.
Anyway, there are even more theories than that but the Big Bang is the most accepted theory which explains the formation of the universe.

I am not childish, I am real. Let me know when ToBB was proven.

Kaosx234 wrote:

[Lsrcr]Oggy wrote:

Kaosx234 wrote:

Alright, call me once they've proven it. I will give you few more theories that are jumping out (nowadays even more than ToBB, Oscilate universe and Enternal inflation).

Don't be so childish. You know that that's not gonna happen anytime soon.
But, we've been proving it bit by bit recently. Anyway, there are even more theories than that but the Big Bang is the most accepted theory which explains the formation of the universe.

I am not childish, I am real. Let me know when ToBB was proven.

Okay then wait for it. You and I may not even be alive by the time they prove it. Anyway, we're off the point here. It doesn't matter if ToBB or any other theories get proven but as long as the one that does, can explain the beginning of the universe, it's fine. And on that day, we'll finally be able to say that God doesnt't exist.

I kinda like this topic, it's... Fantastic!

Science is the study of how God created the earth and existence as a whole even back during the times where people didn't know much about him, not gonna go heavily into this but that's what I've seen.

I didn't read all comments but I would like to discuss anyways.

Quran is a solid proof of existence of God, according to my personal knowledge (I can be mistaken, so reply back if needed) .. first of all, let's speak about Arabic language, Arabs were so eloquent in the language, then Quran is given to Prophet Muhammad whom was uneducated and suddenly he tells Quran to people depends on the situation, Quran is considered the most eloquent ever that Arabs can't make a similar book and will never be able to, so Prophet Muhammad said Quran's words to people which proves he isn't lying about being a real prophet and all this is under the supervision of Allah, as for Quran itself, Quran is the words of Allah sent to Prophet Muhammad to be delivered to the people, thus it's one of the characteristics of Allah, as for Quran itself, it's not only the most eloquent book ever, it includes stories of past messengers detailed and some of the future events, it includes facts, how to live a happy life, and many scientific phenomena science discovered recently like the Aurora phenomenon (I think this is it's name), so a normal person can't create a book like Quran or a religion like Islam all by himself (Quran is 1400 years old), there are more things to prove the existence of God, but I found that one of the ones that must be mentioned here.

OsamaAbouelhassan wrote:

I didn't read all comments but I would like to discuss anyways.

Quran is a solid proof of existence of God, according to my personal knowledge (I can be mistaken, so reply back if needed) .. first of all, let's speak about Arabic language, Arabs were so eloquent in the language, then Quran is given to Prophet Muhammad whom was uneducated and suddenly he tells Quran to people depends on the situation, Quran is considered the most eloquent ever that Arabs can't make a similar book and will never be able to, so Prophet Muhammad said Quran's words to people which proves he isn't lying about being a real prophet and all this is under the supervision of Allah, as for Quran itself, Quran is the words of Allah sent to Prophet Muhammad to be delivered to the people, thus it's one of the characteristics of Allah, as for Quran itself, it's not only the most eloquent book ever, it includes stories of past messengers detailed and some of the future events, it includes facts, how to live a happy life, and many scientific phenomena science discovered recently like the Aurora phenomenon (I think this is it's name), so a normal person can't create a book like Quran or a religion like Islam all by himself (Quran is 1400 years old), there are more things to prove the existence of God, but I found that one of the ones that must be mentioned here.

How do you explain the scientific errors in the Qur'an? Considering the words were sent by Allah and he is all-knowing, shouldn't it all be correct?

I have found a couple of examples: The world is flat, sun sets and rises at a specific location (sets into muddy water), solid sky.

You don't have to answer if you don't like the question - I am just curious to see how a muslim explains this.

The are scientific errors in the bible too of course, as there probably is for most religions.