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Lolmomlol wrote:

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Omer wrote:

CXdur wrote:

I don't really mean to stir up this discussion again, but I wanted to add some graphs for the people here who have claimed Palestine is worse than Israel, obviously this is not true, and a right wing extremist country is never good. Anyway, here are some graphs!


- Israeli and Palestinian children killed since September 29, 2000


- Israeli and Palestinians killed since September 29, 2000


- Israelis and Palestinians injured since September 29, 2000


- Daily U.S Military aid to Israel and the Palestinians


- UN Resolutions targeting Israel and the Palestinians (1955-1992)


- Current number of political prisoners and detainees


- Demolitions of Israeli and Palestinian homes (since 1967)


- Israeli and Palestinian unemployment rates


- Current illegal settlements on the other's land

You know why the Palastine's died and really low amount of Israelis died? because of our army skills, because of our mentally and because of our technology and ofcourse because of our care about our soldiers!
I dont hate palastine's/muslims, but ffs i read here a lot of bullshit "Israeli soldier punching palastinian guy", srsly? you know what this guy did? Probably threw stones. (And no, it wasn't his first time throwing stones.)
You guys are not living here, you dont know that those guys is cancer (Terrorists, and yes this guy from the video is a terrorist), they dont have a brain, they stabbing soldiers and throwing stones!
Lets go back to the graphs that Cxdur posted, They (Palastine's that died/throwing stones/Died in wars) litterally idiots, They dont know how to shoot, they dont know how to shoot rockets, They take videos of our soldiers punching them without to show you guys (Non Israel/Palastine) that they punching and throwing stones and stabbing and every shitty terror that they made.
Lets move the the "Palastine land" i dont getting in this tittle, but ok guys you hate us, lets see you living in another country, you will die by your own government, dictators, civil wars..
Your getting here everything you need! Water, safe house, freedom ffs.
So its seems its not so bad to live under the Israeli's government (The palastine's).
And to all of you guys, You dont know everything!. take it for thought.

Omer wrote:

You know why the Palastine's died and really low amount of Israelis died? because of our army skills, because of our mentally and because of our technology and ofcourse because of our care about our soldiers!

actually not, your army's skills doesnt have to do with the amounts of people that were killed, it was because your skilled army was using guns against people who were throwing ROCKS at them

Omer wrote:

I dont hate palastine's/muslims, but ffs i read here a lot of bullshit "Israeli soldier punching palastinian guy", srsly? you know what this guy did? Probably threw stones. (And no, it wasn't his first time throwing stones.)

I'm pretty sure throwing stones at a soldier who occupied his country is not a crime, is it?

Omer wrote:

You guys are not living here, you dont know that those guys is cancer (Terrorists, and yes this guy from the video is a terrorist), they dont have a brain, they stabbing soldiers and throwing stones!

they are defending their country, does that still make them terrorists?

Omer wrote:

Lets go back to the graphs that Cxdur posted, They (Palastine's that died/throwing stones/Died in wars) litterally idiots, They dont know how to shoot, they dont know how to shoot rockets, They take videos of our soldiers punching them without to show you guys (Non Israel/Palastine) that they punching and throwing stones and stabbing and every shitty terror that they made.

they are still defending their country, aren't they? and you just went from saying they dont know how to shoot rockets to punching, throwing stones, and stabbing, so which one is it?

Omer wrote:

Lets move the the "Palastine land" i dont getting in this tittle, but ok guys you hate us, lets see you living in another country, you will die by your own government, dictators, civil wars..

honestly didn't understand what you meant here

Omer wrote:

Your getting here everything you need! Water, safe house, freedom ffs.
So its seems its not so bad to live under the Israeli's government (The palastine's).
And to all of you guys, You dont know everything!. take it for thought.

"freedom" is when there's no israel, just palestine, we might not know everything, but you know nothing.

Stone or grenade, the soldiers have the right to engage according to the Rules of Engagement. I'm not taking any sides but attacking a soldier armed to the teeth is suicide, basically like what ISIS terrorists do to Europe. So are they terrorists or not? Well that's subjective.

Omer wrote:

CXdur wrote:

I don't really mean to stir up this discussion again, but I wanted to add some graphs for the people here who have claimed Palestine is worse than Israel, obviously this is not true, and a right wing extremist country is never good. Anyway, here are some graphs!


- Israeli and Palestinian children killed since September 29, 2000


- Israeli and Palestinians killed since September 29, 2000


- Israelis and Palestinians injured since September 29, 2000


- Daily U.S Military aid to Israel and the Palestinians


- UN Resolutions targeting Israel and the Palestinians (1955-1992)


- Current number of political prisoners and detainees


- Demolitions of Israeli and Palestinian homes (since 1967)


- Israeli and Palestinian unemployment rates


- Current illegal settlements on the other's land

You know why the Palastine's died and really low amount of Israelis died? because of our army skills, because of our mentally and because of our technology and ofcourse because of our care about our soldiers!

Do you actually believe this yourself? Explain why so many Palestinian children are dead. A good army should only use deadly force if absolutely necessary, but perhaps the problem is that a lot of people in the army share your right wing extremist mentality.

I dont hate palastine's/muslims, but ffs i read here a lot of bullshit "Israeli soldier punching palastinian guy", srsly? you know what this guy did? Probably threw stones. (And no, it wasn't his first time throwing stones.)
You guys are not living here, you dont know that those guys is cancer (Terrorists, and yes this guy from the video is a terrorist), they dont have a brain, they stabbing soldiers and throwing stones!

There are terrorists on both sides, the fact that you simply state that everyone that has been killed are terrorists is beyond stupid and it is clear to me that you are either the victim of propaganda or just a racist (I believe you are the latter). You accuse them of having no brain? Dude, you are acting like someone who does not have a brain at all by applying the same yardstick to everybody.

Lets go back to the graphs that Cxdur posted, They (Palastine's that died/throwing stones/Died in wars) litterally idiots, They dont know how to shoot, they dont know how to shoot rockets, They take videos of our soldiers punching them without to show you guys (Non Israel/Palastine) that they punching and throwing stones and stabbing and every shitty terror that they made.

Are you really calling them all idiots just because they have died? That is EXTREMELY disrespectful and makes it clear just how terribly ignorant you are. Again here, you are applying the same yardstick to everybody. If all they do is try to capture the Israeli army's cruelty on videos and throwing stones to defend their country, then they are not fucking terrorists. It is just easier for you guys to trivialize ethnic cleansing and murder when you call them all terrorists. Don't misunderstand me here, there are terrorists on both sides, both Israeli terroists and Palestinian terrorists, but guys throwing stones are not terrorists and you must be very stupid to believe this.


Lets move the the "Palastine land" i dont getting in this tittle, but ok guys you hate us, lets see you living in another country, you will die by your own government, dictators, civil wars..

Wow, did you forget all about the Holocaust? With this statement you are directly comparable to Hitler, like how he wanted to "move" the Jews. This is ethnic cleansing man, and with that statement you are no better than Hitler.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing


Your getting here everything you need! Water, safe house, freedom ffs.
So its seems its not so bad to live under the Israeli's government (The palastine's).
And to all of you guys, You dont know everything!. take it for thought.
Israel has a tendency to remove and restrict these things, they won't even hesitate to cut off water to cities full of children. You need to LEARN that it is OKAY to criticize your own country and its atrocities, rather than arguing like a Nazi Soldier who would trivialize genocide.

I don't know everything? Alright, I never said I did, but you know NOTHING. You are the victim of propaganda that is meant to trivialize occupation and murder. People like you are directly contributing to the war and murder of both Israelis and Palestinians and you should quite frankly be ashamed of yourself for having this thoughts, perhaps you should see a therapist?

Omer wrote:

Lolmomlol wrote:

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Omer wrote:

You know why the Palastine's died and really low amount of Israelis died? because of our army skills, because of our mentally and because of our technology and ofcourse because of our care about our soldiers!
I dont hate palastine's/muslims, but ffs i read here a lot of bullshit "Israeli soldier punching palastinian guy", srsly? you know what this guy did? Probably threw stones. (And no, it wasn't his first time throwing stones.)
You guys are not living here, you dont know that those guys is cancer (Terrorists, and yes this guy from the video is a terrorist), they dont have a brain, they stabbing soldiers and throwing stones!
Lets go back to the graphs that Cxdur posted, They (Palastine's that died/throwing stones/Died in wars) litterally idiots, They dont know how to shoot, they dont know how to shoot rockets, They take videos of our soldiers punching them without to show you guys (Non Israel/Palastine) that they punching and throwing stones and stabbing and every shitty terror that they made.
Lets move the the "Palastine land" i dont getting in this tittle, but ok guys you hate us, lets see you living in another country, you will die by your own government, dictators, civil wars..
Your getting here everything you need! Water, safe house, freedom ffs.
So its seems its not so bad to live under the Israeli's government (The palastine's).
And to all of you guys, You dont know everything!. take it for thought.

Omer wrote:

You know why the Palastine's died and really low amount of Israelis died? because of our army skills, because of our mentally and because of our technology and ofcourse because of our care about our soldiers!

actually not, your army's skills doesnt have to do with the amounts of people that were killed, it was because your skilled army was using guns against people who were throwing ROCKS at them

Omer wrote:

I dont hate palastine's/muslims, but ffs i read here a lot of bullshit "Israeli soldier punching palastinian guy", srsly? you know what this guy did? Probably threw stones. (And no, it wasn't his first time throwing stones.)

I'm pretty sure throwing stones at a soldier who occupied his country is not a crime, is it?

Omer wrote:

You guys are not living here, you dont know that those guys is cancer (Terrorists, and yes this guy from the video is a terrorist), they dont have a brain, they stabbing soldiers and throwing stones!

they are defending their country, does that still make them terrorists?

Omer wrote:

Lets go back to the graphs that Cxdur posted, They (Palastine's that died/throwing stones/Died in wars) litterally idiots, They dont know how to shoot, they dont know how to shoot rockets, They take videos of our soldiers punching them without to show you guys (Non Israel/Palastine) that they punching and throwing stones and stabbing and every shitty terror that they made.

they are still defending their country, aren't they? and you just went from saying they dont know how to shoot rockets to punching, throwing stones, and stabbing, so which one is it?

Omer wrote:

Lets move the the "Palastine land" i dont getting in this tittle, but ok guys you hate us, lets see you living in another country, you will die by your own government, dictators, civil wars..

honestly didn't understand what you meant here

Omer wrote:

Your getting here everything you need! Water, safe house, freedom ffs.
So its seems its not so bad to live under the Israeli's government (The palastine's).
And to all of you guys, You dont know everything!. take it for thought.

"freedom" is when there's no israel, just palestine, we might not know everything, but you know nothing.

This is Israel's land, since Palastine is not recognized anywhere we dont have to keep talk on it, because there is not Palastine!

Ignorance is bliss, am I right? You are completely wrong. Palestine has been recognized by certain countries, and the fact that you come here and say it isn't recognized everywhere makes you seem stupid. Are you not able to read up on peace pages? I am not anti-Israel, I am anti-imperialism and anti-occupation. The fact that Israel was recognized by so many countries after WW2 is because of the Holocaust, and now your country is not so much better.

You should really read up on the Balfour declaration. The British mandate of Palestine was supposed to help the Palestinians build up their own land here, but Zionists kept pushing for their own land on Palestinian area. The United Kingdom was actually negative to this at first, but because of WW1, Zionists across europe started pushing for it again. They said that they would get the United States to help out in the war on the British side by using Zionists in America, but in return they would need to accept that zionists get their land on Palestinian area. Did you even know this? Most likely not. Your country is full of innocent blood on their hands.

You will see when more European and American citizens learn what cruel crimes your country commits, one day you will not receive so much support any more. Perhaps from the U.S, because America is a piece of shit and will support you no matter how many Palestinians you kill without good reasons.


Secondly never disparage on my army. trust me they shoot only if its 100% needed.
Wow, you are so ignorant or just not intellegent at all. NO ARMY in the world shoot only when it is 100 percent needed, perhaps they are MEANT to but NO ARMY actually does. If this is true, why are so many Palestinian children dead even? Very ignorant statement.

Third, you ask about "so which one is it?": the answer is everything, that's their actions.
About the government, without our government "Palastine" would be like gaza. no water just nothing there.

I would argue that Palestine would be A LOT better if Israel was never created in its initial location. Most Palestinians today however, they know that a two state solution is the only way, but now when your country has been and is moving away from this option, you will see a lot more negative worldwide views on Israel.

You clearly Anti-Israel, i dont have what to talk with you about it, because you dont know anything.. You try to defend them while they are commit terror crimes.

You defend your own country and people who commit terror crimes. You don't even know what a terror crime is.

Please dont answer me Lolmomlol because i dont want to keep talk about it.. its waste of time for both of us.

Muslims be triggered

CXdur wrote:

Omer wrote:

CXdur wrote:

I don't really mean to stir up this discussion again, but I wanted to add some graphs for the people here who have claimed Palestine is worse than Israel, obviously this is not true, and a right wing extremist country is never good. Anyway, here are some graphs!


- Israeli and Palestinian children killed since September 29, 2000


- Israeli and Palestinians killed since September 29, 2000


- Israelis and Palestinians injured since September 29, 2000


- Daily U.S Military aid to Israel and the Palestinians


- UN Resolutions targeting Israel and the Palestinians (1955-1992)


- Current number of political prisoners and detainees


- Demolitions of Israeli and Palestinian homes (since 1967)


- Israeli and Palestinian unemployment rates


- Current illegal settlements on the other's land

You know why the Palastine's died and really low amount of Israelis died? because of our army skills, because of our mentally and because of our technology and ofcourse because of our care about our soldiers!

Do you actually believe this yourself? Explain why so many Palestinian children are dead. A good army should only use deadly force if absolutely necessary, but perhaps the problem is that a lot of people in the army share your right wing extremist mentality.

I dont hate palastine's/muslims, but ffs i read here a lot of bullshit "Israeli soldier punching palastinian guy", srsly? you know what this guy did? Probably threw stones. (And no, it wasn't his first time throwing stones.)
You guys are not living here, you dont know that those guys is cancer (Terrorists, and yes this guy from the video is a terrorist), they dont have a brain, they stabbing soldiers and throwing stones!

There are terrorists on both sides, the fact that you simply state that everyone that has been killed are terrorists is beyond stupid and it is clear to me that you are either the victim of propaganda or just a racist (I believe you are the latter). You accuse them of having no brain? Dude, you are acting like someone who does not have a brain at all by applying the same yardstick to everybody.

Lets go back to the graphs that Cxdur posted, They (Palastine's that died/throwing stones/Died in wars) litterally idiots, They dont know how to shoot, they dont know how to shoot rockets, They take videos of our soldiers punching them without to show you guys (Non Israel/Palastine) that they punching and throwing stones and stabbing and every shitty terror that they made.

Are you really calling them all idiots just because they have died? That is EXTREMELY disrespectful and makes it clear just how terribly ignorant you are. Again here, you are applying the same yardstick to everybody. If all they do is try to capture the Israeli army's cruelty on videos and throwing stones to defend their country, then they are not fucking terrorists. It is just easier for you guys to trivialize ethnic cleansing and murder when you call them all terrorists. Don't misunderstand me here, there are terrorists on both sides, both Israeli terroists and Palestinian terrorists, but guys throwing stones are not terrorists and you must be very stupid to believe this.


Lets move the the "Palastine land" i dont getting in this tittle, but ok guys you hate us, lets see you living in another country, you will die by your own government, dictators, civil wars..

Wow, did you forget all about the Holocaust? With this statement you are directly comparable to Hitler, like how he wanted to "move" the Jewish people. This is ethnic cleansing man, and with that statement you are no better than Hitler.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing


Your getting here everything you need! Water, safe house, freedom ffs.
So its seems its not so bad to live under the Israeli's government (The palastine's).
And to all of you guys, You dont know everything!. take it for thought.
Israel has a tendency to remove and restrict these things, they won't even hesitate to cut off water to cities full of children. You need to LEARN that it is OKAY to criticize your own country and its atrocities, rather than arguing like a Nazi Soldier who would trivialize genocide.

I don't know everything? Alright, I never said I did, but you know NOTHING. You are the victim of propaganda that is meant to trivialize occupation and murder. People like you are directly contributing to the war and murder of both Israelis and Palestinians and you should quite frankly be ashamed of yourself for having this thoughts, perhaps you should see a therapist?

Omer wrote:

Lolmomlol wrote:

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actually not, your army's skills doesnt have to do with the amounts of people that were killed, it was because your skilled army was using guns against people who were throwing ROCKS at them


I'm pretty sure throwing stones at a soldier who occupied his country is not a crime, is it?


they are defending their country, does that still make them terrorists?


they are still defending their country, aren't they? and you just went from saying they dont know how to shoot rockets to punching, throwing stones, and stabbing, so which one is it?


honestly didn't understand what you meant here


"freedom" is when there's no israel, just palestine, we might not know everything, but you know nothing.

This is Israel's land, since Palastine is not recognized anywhere we dont have to keep talk on it, because there is not Palastine!

Ignorance is bliss, am I right? You are completely wrong. Palestine has been recognized by certain countries, and the fact that you come here and say it isn't recognized everywhere makes you seem stupid. Are you not able to read up on peace pages? I am not anti-Israel, I am anti-imperialism and anti-occupation. The fact that Israel was recognized by so many countries after WW2 is because of the Holocaust, and now your country is not so much better.

You should really read up on the Balfour declaration. The British mandate of Palestine was supposed to help the Palestinians build up their own land here, but Zionists kept pushing for their own land on Palestinian area. The United Kingdom was actually negative to this at first, but because of WW1, Zionists across europe started pushing for it again. They said that they would get the United States to help out in the war on the British side by using Zionists in America, but in return they would need to accept that zionists get their land on Palestinian area. Did you even know this? Most likely not. Your country is full of innocent blood on their hands.

You will see when more European and American citizens learn what cruel crimes your country commits, one day you will not receive so much support any more. Perhaps from the U.S, because America is a piece of shit and will support you no matter how many Palestinians you kill without good reasons.


Secondly never disparage on my army. trust me they shoot only if its 100% needed.
Wow, you are so ignorant or just not intellegent at all. NO ARMY in the world shoot only when it is 100 percent needed, perhaps they are MEANT to but NO ARMY actually does. If this is true, why are so many Palestinian children dead even? Very ignorant statement.

Third, you ask about "so which one is it?": the answer is everything, that's their actions.
About the government, without our government "Palastine" would be like gaza. no water just nothing there.

I would argue that Palestine would be A LOT better if Israel was never created in its initial location. Most Palestinians today however, they know that a two state solution is the only way, but now when your country has been and is moving away from this option, you will see a lot more negative worldwide views on Israel.

You clearly Anti-Israel, i dont have what to talk with you about it, because you dont know anything.. You try to defend them while they are commit terror crimes.

You defend your own country and people who commit terror crimes. You don't even know what a terror crime is.

Please dont answer me Lolmomlol because i dont want to keep talk about it.. its waste of time for both of us.

Im not ignorant, i know everything bro, we just dont have the same political thinking.
I have a full respect for you Cxdur and ofcourse to your politics views, maybe i living in a bubble. but i show you the way how it looks from my side. and ofcouse i have a lot of muslim friends here, Palastines too. i just want to make it clear, Im not a racist! i meant here only to the terrorists.
I dont have more to add here.. because we can debate on it for years..
I just want to relate to the picture you posted.
Those "Neturei Karta" (with Kipa and hat and all), are really small community that just hate Israel. The most of them not even live in Israel. so the picture is not mean anything about Israelis.
Now bro i want to ask you a real question (I really dont know and i want to know and its not about the argue here).
How do you think i looks like? Like all the "Haredim" with kipa and all? honest question, i just want to know how Non-Israelis thinking how regular (Non-Religious people) Jewish Israeli looks like?

Omer wrote:

Im not ignorant, i know everything bro, we just dont have the same political thinking.
I have a full respect for you Cxdur and ofcourse to your politics views, maybe i living in a bubble. but i show you the way how it looks from my side. and ofcouse i have a lot of muslim friends here, Palastines too. i just want to make it clear, Im not a racist! i meant here only to the terrorists.
I dont have more to add here.. because we can debate on it for years..
I just want to relate to the picture you posted.
Those "Neturei Karta" (with Kipa and hat and all), are really small community that just hate Israel. The most of them not even live in Israel. so the picture is not mean anything about Israelis.
Now bro i want to ask you a real question (I really dont know and i want to know and its not about the argue here).
How do you think i looks like? Like all the "Haredim" with kipa and all? honest question, i just want to know how Non-Israelis thinking how regular (Non-Religious people) Jewish people Israeli looks like?

Saying that you know everything is a very ignorant statement, no person in the world knows everything about this conflict and what the different sides do. I believe you when you say that you have muslim friends, I just want you to try to put yourselves in the shoe of a Palestinian person who might have had his ancestors murdered and his land stolen by violent Zionist gangs. You would have grown a hatred for Israel yourself, but do not misunderstand me when I say that acts of terrorism does in no way help either the Palestinians or the Israelis.

I do not know too much about that community, but you do have to understand that taking distance from Israel's occupation is not the same as hating jews. It is not antisemitistic to take dislike zionism or Israel's illegal occupation. Israel pulls the national security and anti-semitic card in so many cases where it doesn't actually belong there so it has started to lose meaning. I can understand that Israelis tend to believe their state in this way, but I am trying to tell you that you should be more critical of what the government tells you. Israel is using this is as a way to discredit people who for instance protest for genuine reasons.

I have no idea what you look like, but I do not believe that you wear Jewish clothing, no. At least not for everyday purposes. I would think that perhaps elder people would wear these things, but that it would be less normal for the youth! Please do answer though as you made me curious, hehe.

Also, I wanted to give you some articles that I really hope you do read:

https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/chillin ... -1.5158148
- Very anti-democratic law that criminalizes mourning the Palestinians who lost their lives in the Nakba, here's a list of massacres in that time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killings_ ... e_war#List
http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/story?id=128580
- Article that brings up the issue of the abuse of the anti-semitic card to discredit criticism.
https://www.haaretz.com/life/.premium.M ... -1.5787663
- Information about Israel's assassination program, it also tells us how Israel nearly killed 30 Palestinian children in order to take down Yasser Arafat. It also tells us about other acts of terrorism commited by the state of Israel.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-isra ... SKBN16M2IN
- Israel and apartheid

I want you to learn that it is perfectly okay to criticize your own state and that the abuse of human rights and lives will not end if people do not open their eyes instead of simply taking one side without being critical of what they are told.

[Lsrcr]Oggy wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/idfonline/videos/1786114241411438/

Propaganda from both sides, just saying.

[Lsrcr]Oggy wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/idfonline/videos/1786114241411438/

Exactly, but the video clearly shows that Israel doesn't mind their business as they said it themselves that the kids in Gaza deserve better and that's why they're attacking. They're clearly not defending themselves against future terrorism or something by attacking Gaza.

[Lsrcr]Oggy wrote:

[Lsrcr]Oggy wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/idfonline/vide ... 241411438/

Exactly, but the video clearly shows that Israel doesn't mind their business as they said it themselves that the kids in Gaza deserve better and that's why they're attacking. They're clearly not defending themselves against future terrorism or something by attacking Gaza.

I don't really understand what you are trying to say here. Israel doesn't mind their business? What do you mean? Israel would kill hundreds of children in the name of "security". It's just an excuse for them to inflict as much pain as they can without having to take responsibility for it.

Here's another propaganda video made by Israel:



Article regarding it: http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/isr ... 63021.html

How intelligent people with conscience can defend this state is just something I cannot comprehend...

CXdur wrote:

I don't really understand what you are trying to say here. Israel doesn't mind their business? What do you mean? Israel would kill hundreds of children in the name of "security". It's just an excuse for them to inflict as much pain as they can without having to take responsibility for it.

That's exactly whay I meant. Their intention is not security, it's something else. They found an excuse to attack them by saying that children of Gaza deserve better.