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There is no other proof of god either but a damn book.

Anyway its really dumb to fight about something that will never, ever end or have a correct answer.

Believer: God created world.
Non believer: No big bang created it, where did the god even come from?
Believer: No, well then where did the big bang come from?

There is no answer and never will, because no matter what someone comes up with, someone will ask "where did that come from then" and to be honest, I'd ask that too.

[Lsrcr]Big wrote:

There is no other proof of god either but a damn book.

Anyway its really dumb to fight about something that will never, ever end or have a correct answer.

Believer: God created world.
Non believer: No big bang created it, where did the god even come from?
Believer: No, well then where did the big bang come from?

There is no answer and never will, because no matter what someone comes up with, someone will ask "where did that come from then" and to be honest, I'd ask that too.

Yeah, exactly. Well, we believers think that the earth was created by an already existing creature. Which is god in other words, we believe he has always been existing and he created the world. But, it's just a belief, no one knows for sure or can prove anything, otherwise we wouldn't ask this question. This topic is going to lead to a lot of arguments..

Believe what you want, idgaf now. when you hear the trumpet which will make childrens gray haired you will see whats real.

Reda wrote:

Believe what you want, idgaf now. when you hear the trumpet which will make childrens gray haired you will see whats real.

Indeed indeed.

But it in the end its like this; no one knows. Believers are called so beacuse they BELIEVE in something, not because they know something, same goes for the non-believers.

I'm assuming no one read my previous post...

Reda wrote:

Believe what you want, idgaf now. when you hear the trumpet which will make childrens gray haired you will see whats real.

wat

Drastic wrote:

I believe that Allah created it. A verse from the Holy Quran regarding the creation is as below;

"Do not the unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were a closed-up mass (ratqan), then We clove them asunder (fataqna)? And We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?"

Here, the heavens and the earth basically mean the whole universe. The meanings of the words ratqan are "total darkness" or the "coming together of something and consequent infusion in a single entity".

The Big Bang theory states that the universe was once in a hot and dense state and it eventually erupted thus creating the planets, stars etc etc. Ratqan gives a clear definition of a black hole and I assume we all know how black holes work. If you don't, I'd suggest you google it. As far as I can understand, black holes are formed by the collapse of stars 15 times as much as the sun and the immensity of their gravitational pull causes the stars to come closer and further collapse and in the end, even atoms and molecules are transformed into energy. This blackhole's inward gravitational pull is so powerful that even radiation can not take place and even light cannot escape. This explains the word "ratqan's" meaning which is "total darkness".

Now, you do the math, if you're in a shop and it gets crowded and there's no air conditioning, you start to feel hot because of the energy that's radiated by others. I hope this explains why a black hole may be hot and dense.

I understand that this is a natural process but an illiterate man could not know of it 1400 years back. This is one of the many reasons I believe in the religion I do and why I also believe Allah created the universe.

There is also much much more proof in the Qu'ran, but very true indeed.

GOD created the world

Simple, God.