Remove/change a rule. [DENIED]

[Faraon78910]

Imo this rules doesn't make sense because LEOs going on same suspect over and over again isn't bitching, but hunting same LEO over and over is. I experience this daily and how couldn't I when there are 2-3 wanteds most of time online... +1
Edit: If someone tells me LEOs going on same suspect over and over actually is bitching, I will start reporting np

[Toast]

Nice joke bro, with bm items and mb i can't escape these days even from 1 swat with bomb and now u re saying it's possible ? Be logical please.

Stay out of the bomb range?????? It's easy.

[Luka]

Imo this rules doesn't make sense because LEOs going on same suspect over and over again isn't bitching, but hunting same LEO over and over is. I experience this daily and how couldn't I when there are 2-3 wanteds most of time online... +1
Edit: If someone tells me LEOs going on same suspect over and over actually is bitching, I will start reporting np

I mean when there are 2-3 wanteds online cops have no other option but to go after the ones who are wanted?

[ackman]

Imo this rules doesn't make sense because LEOs going on same suspect over and over again isn't bitching, but hunting same LEO over and over is. I experience this daily and how couldn't I when there are 2-3 wanteds most of time online... +1
Edit: If someone tells me LEOs going on same suspect over and over actually is bitching, I will start reporting np

I mean when there are 2-3 wanteds online cops have no other option but to go after the ones who are wanted?

So lets assume the same, that there're not many cops online but few AFK cops & the recent SWAT recruits are online, so we've no option too right?

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As for the suggestion, I'd agree for the following reasons:

- When there's a Car group cop hunt, army constantly tries to helicopter blade using hunter
- When there's a riot in LSA or at any other place, army brings tank or constantly tries to heliblade.

None complains because it's how it should be.

- SWAT has special features and in my opinion they shouldn't be complaining about this, had there not been any rule regarding this in the first place, such suggestions,reports & argument wouldn't be actually coming.

/swar divides the LEO class, it should've had never been created.
Constantly heliblading the team shouldn't be against the rules, as members on roof can use their special features for e.g /rb & bomb or just be responsive.

+ Majority of SWAT members are not responsive in-game, they do play for activity & free score, they don't even do tazing most of the times. Correct me If I'm wrong.

tldr- Targeting the same person constantly should be counted as bitching. but a team should be not.

[Robin]

Imo this rules doesn't make sense because LEOs going on same suspect over and over again isn't bitching, but hunting same LEO over and over is. I experience this daily and how couldn't I when there are 2-3 wanteds most of time online... +1
Edit: If someone tells me LEOs going on same suspect over and over actually is bitching, I will start reporting np

I mean when there are 2-3 wanteds online cops have no other option but to go after the ones who are wanted?

IMO if a cop chases a specific suspect all the time (after respawn) it’s also bitching

[Immortal]

Real CnR gameplay is cops chasing and hunting criminals, not the other way around (cophunting). It is LEOs job to kill/ar you and I see no problem with it. As a criminal, you shouldn't constantly target certain LEOs all the time to annoy them. If you see them around you, there shouldn't be a problem in heliblading. However, if you're constantly targetting them and /loc'ing for the sake of heliblading, then you're clearly being a pain in the ass. This rule should under no circumstance be altered or deleted.

[Luka]

Imo this rules doesn't make sense because LEOs going on same suspect over and over again isn't bitching, but hunting same LEO over and over is. I experience this daily and how couldn't I when there are 2-3 wanteds most of time online... +1
Edit: If someone tells me LEOs going on same suspect over and over actually is bitching, I will start reporting np

I mean when there are 2-3 wanteds online cops have no other option but to go after the ones who are wanted?

So lets assume the same, that there're not many cops online but few AFK cops & the recent SWAT recruits are online, so we've no option too right?

...cops task is to eliminate crime, when criminals job isn't eliminating cops, but if there are 2-3 cops online (which barely happens) that's understandable since criminals have no other choice. Also that's not what the rule says

[Luka]

Imo this rules doesn't make sense because LEOs going on same suspect over and over again isn't bitching, but hunting same LEO over and over is. I experience this daily and how couldn't I when there are 2-3 wanteds most of time online... +1
Edit: If someone tells me LEOs going on same suspect over and over actually is bitching, I will start reporting np

I mean when there are 2-3 wanteds online cops have no other option but to go after the ones who are wanted?

IMO if a cop chases a specific suspect all the time (after respawn) it’s also bitching

Depends how you look at it, if there are very few criminals and a cop has to make a choice that's not really bitching. It would be bitching if there was decent amount of criminal activity yet a cop targets only a specific player, constantly goes for example from LS full of crime to SF just to deal with the one guy. But it still depends on the case, this doesn't mean it would apply for each and every one.

[CXdur]

I agree with this one, since LEO can constantly kill or arrest someone, how about us killing someone constantly specially when they're chasing us(Someone backed us up with heli and sliced LEOs who're chasing).

It's a cops and robbers servers. Cops going after criminals is kind of the point. This is not just a reply to you but to others as well.

I don't agree cops are over powered compared to criminals. 1 cop vs 1 criminal is much harder for the cop than it was a few years ago. 2 criminals vs 1 cop is basically impossible for the cop assuming the criminals have adequate shock gun charges.

No one claimed cops were overpowered by then? Why now? Is it just TDM mentality? I don't understand it. You are literally saying that cops playing the game mode like it's designed, hunting criminals by any means necessary is unfair because criminals can't cophunt and do the same?

Again, CNR, not TDM.

This rule will not be removed by the way. The arguments for removing it are ridiculous as stated above. This rule was added because there were times when you literally couldn't play SWAT. You had groups of players (sometimes actual IG groups) respawning and going to hellblade SWAT every death. At bad times you would get a helicopter around every single minute. Players doing this repeatedly even without this rule is still community annoyance, and this rule was merely created to clarify and avoid confusion.

This suggestion is abuseable and it is inherently incompatible with a CnR server. It would also probably lead to more reports because community annoyance was still community annoyance before this rule was added.

[Faraon78910]

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@Immortal your argument is completely invalid because cophunt is allowed. Criminals can do whatever they want, 5/10 job skill activities are against laws anyway. I believe if it wasn't meant to be that way, seniors would change this long time ago.
@Luka if cops have this privilege, why shouldn't criminals have it as well? Do you want equality/balance or not? This is not real life so don't say any like 'criminals in real life don't chase cops and aren't equal at all' please. Press tab, count wanteds and count Leos, nothing more to say.

tldr- Targeting the same person constantly should be counted as bitching. but a team should be not.

I think we all agree about this

EDIT: @Cxdur This server is more TDM than CNR, you're not active enough to realize it. Go online and see how many criminals actually go robbing and how many go cophunting. The gameplay on this server changed because of removing cophunt rule. Adding cophunt rule back will make this server dead. Face it and accept it already.