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Post by PresidentOfAmerica » September 16, 2020, 9:19 am
I am not here to convince people to agree with me, I was just proving my point, continuing to further argue with someone just to make them agree with me is worthless. I believe that I have proved my point, it is extremely unprofessional for tagged players to accuse, and in mostky every case, people don't remove their mods when they are caught, they just use it in a more sneaky manner once they know people are suspicious.

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Post by Fantastic » September 16, 2020, 9:54 am
I would personally see accusing others as community annoyance considering the /report function exists for a reason and staff are easily reachable should one suspect another of cheating or breaking any rules. There are several consequences of publicly announcing a cheater (or a rule-breaker in general) including one which makes the work of admins significantly harder. In short, accusing in my opinion should be avoided at all costs and tagged members in particular shouldn't be part of the problem.

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Post by Balsa » September 16, 2020, 12:49 pm
I really do apologize now as this isn't the section for reports. As CX said accusing can be also counted as "joke". Because personally i know why you did this. Honestly, I didn't know that you took it that seriously because (talking for myself) I was the one joking in main chat. Whenever i duel someone and that guy kills me I will probably say (" aim XD" and after that i will say that it's a joke which honestly it is). Day before you got "Accused" we were teaming together and everything was fine. So honestly, as tagged member and community supporter, I would never accuse someone and destroy their gameplay. But (again talking for myself) I joked about it. You could just easily PM me to stop saying anything about it. I would probably apologize for that. But you didn't do that. And honestly everything what we said was a joke as you can see on our chat there. I was the one that joked with another player(not gonna say his name) like saying "Whats'up now pro?" I mean like if I really wanted to destroy your gameplay I would do that on some other way be sure in that. "Bruh he killed me from 200 meters" "not possible at all" I was joking dude. As I though you are the normal person from all those cops that used to steal all of my suspects. Saying this again I apologize for this "accusing" as I wasn't warned (As i can remember) to stop. Because I though this is all a joke.
I am sure for the "Player2" didn't mean to distribut or to bother you by saying in mainchat "aimbotter" it was just the thing that i know that dude and i can talk in his name because all he wanted here was just to joke. We both wanted to do that. "Trash i am going to trash you now"? LOL that's meant to be a joke. People always joke with my name saying "Balls" or "Basla" or even "minimod" and now i have to report them for accusing? And please, try to realize that "Community Supporters" ARE NOT RELATED TO STAFF LIST AS WE CAN'T BAN/MUTE/KICK. WE ARE ONLY THERE TO HELP AND ANSWER QUESTIONS.

Also as Fantastic said "saying in mainchat the name and the id of the hacker is rulebreak" now there's a question that i would like get answered. Are you using hacks? Because I see this as your protection from someone. If you are not using anything simply /PM (id) stop accusing me in mainchat please. And that's all. If that person ignores. There's always a /report.
Plus! This more sounds like a report to me not a suggestion.

Anyway, back to this suggestion. I think that it is the right way to remove accusing from our rules because, players like me, used to joke with each other "fucking aimboter,fucking lagger" they are having their time. Also like CxDur said "It will bring more report hunts". I suggest you in the future to use PM's with anyone and if that person ignores all of your warnings than just take some proofs and go on "Reports" that's all.

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Post by PresidentOfAmerica » September 16, 2020, 1:11 pm
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Joking? Mate, they reported me on discord, it was not a joke, they were being serious.... It's just that now that everyone got to know that I have proofs, they are saying it was a 'joke', I am not that dumb that I won't get who is being sarcastic and who is not. You can joke around with people over /pm, no need to joke over mainchat, that way people won't be able to report hunt you.

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Post by Balsa » September 16, 2020, 1:18 pm
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Joking? Mate, they reported me on discord, it was not a joke, they were being serious.... It's just that now that everyone got to know that I have proofs, they are saying it was a 'joke', I am not that dumb that I won't get who is being sarcastic and who is not. You can joke around with people over /pm, no need to joke over mainchat, that way people won't be able to report hunt you.
Bro... Everyone has a right to call administrator to check if you or anyone else is using hacks. And ofc many people are joking in mainchat with admins. And? That's not allowed at all? Also calling administrator to check a specific player isn't a rulebreak. Even if they reported you for that it's still not a rulebreak. But i am saying all these "proofs" that you posted here are joke. And I know what are you trying to do. You made this topic only to harm me and the "Player2". And if you do get a joke why are you taking that what me and player2 said in mainchat that serious? Why are you making a report that's not even valid in suggestion section? And ofc I didn't get my answer.

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Post by PresidentOfAmerica » September 16, 2020, 1:23 pm
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Joking? Mate, they reported me on discord, it was not a joke, they were being serious.... It's just that now that everyone got to know that I have proofs, they are saying it was a 'joke', I am not that dumb that I won't get who is being sarcastic and who is not. You can joke around with people over /pm, no need to joke over mainchat, that way people won't be able to report hunt you.
Bro... Everyone has a right to call administrator to check if you or anyone else is using hacks. And ofc many people are joking in mainchat with admins. And? That's not allowed at all? Also calling administrator to check a specific player isn't a rulebreak. Even if they reported you for that it's still not a rulebreak. But i am saying all these "proofs" that you posted here are joke. And I know what are you trying to do. You made this topic only to harm me and the "Player2". And if you do get a joke why are you taking that what me and player2 said in mainchat thay serious? Why are you making a report that's not even valid in suggestion section? And ofc I didn't get my answer.
So nice of you to assume I am 'harming' you. While I clearly blackened all the names, and didn't even mention your name, you yourself admitted and now turning the blame on me?
Your question? What is your question? If I am using hacks? Nice question mate, because clearly if you ask a hacker if he's hacking, he will say, yeah, I am? Sounds dumb right? He will always say no, that's why you don't accuse him, but get proofs silently, without letting him know.
Please read my previous reply before posting, I have clearly stated that I didn't mind then reporting me, I had a problem with them accusing me, reporting me, and now you're saying you all were joking? If you all were joking, why did you report? Stop pretending, thanks for admitting it yourself, but that, was not a 'JOKE'. End of the discussion, any further replies of you or anybody trying to prove it as a sarcasm, will be very politely ignored by me.

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Post by Balsa » September 16, 2020, 1:33 pm
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Joking? Mate, they reported me on discord, it was not a joke, they were being serious.... It's just that now that everyone got to know that I have proofs, they are saying it was a 'joke', I am not that dumb that I won't get who is being sarcastic and who is not. You can joke around with people over /pm, no need to joke over mainchat, that way people won't be able to report hunt you.
Bro... Everyone has a right to call administrator to check if you or anyone else is using hacks. And ofc many people are joking in mainchat with admins. And? That's not allowed at all? Also calling administrator to check a specific player isn't a rulebreak. Even if they reported you for that it's still not a rulebreak. But i am saying all these "proofs" that you posted here are joke. And I know what are you trying to do. You made this topic only to harm me and the "Player2". And if you do get a joke why are you taking that what me and player2 said in mainchat thay serious? Why are you making a report that's not even valid in suggestion section? And ofc I didn't get my answer.
So nice of you to assume I am 'harming' you. While I clearly blackened all the names, and didn't even mention your name, you yourself admitted and now turning the blame on me?
Your question? What is your question? If I am using hacks? Nice question mate, because clearly if you ask a hacker if he's hacking, he will say, yeah, I am? Sounds dumb right? He will always say no, that's why you don't accuse him, but get proofs silently, without letting him know.
Please read my previous reply before posting, I have clearly stated that I didn't mind then reporting me, I had a problem with them accusing me, reporting me, and now you're saying you all were joking? If you all were joking, why did you report? Stop pretending, thanks for admitting it yourself, but that, was not a 'JOKE'. End of the discussion, any further replies of you or anybody trying to prove it as a sarcasm, will be very politely ignored by me.
Awesome this only shows your attitude here. Great for letting me know what kind of person are you. Saying:" now i got all the proofs i need" is a report if your mind can't understand that. And you didn't mentioned my name that's correct. But i asked you a question:" are you using hacks?" And you responded with :" if you ask a hacker if he is cheating he will always say no" by saying this you admitted that there's a possibility that you are using hacks. YOU SAID THIS BY YOURSELF. Also i am saying ON THE PROOFS YOU PROVIDED THAT ARE JOKE!
Note: i apologize for saying this with big letters because somehow he didn't read everything what i am trying to say. And i am not saying in everyone's name. I am saying for me and player2. And ofc you are not here to decide when is the end of the discussion. But as you wish.

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Post by Fantastic » September 16, 2020, 3:27 pm
Balsa you need to stop turning this thread into a report where you keep posting your defence. Your name was not explicitly mentioned yet you are here defending yourself on several occasions - not necessary. Please stick to evaluating the suggestion and not arguing about what happened yesterday or whenever it was.

On a side note, this is exactly why I also believe accusatory 'jokes' should not be allowed. The intent is never clear and not everyone you accuse may interpret whatever you say as a joke, creating unnecessary drama and complications.

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Post by Karu_Tepes » September 16, 2020, 9:52 pm
Christ... what a mess
Awesome this only shows your attitude here. Great for letting me know what kind of person are you. Saying:" now i got all the proofs i need" is a report if your mind can't understand that. And you didn't mentioned my name that's correct. But i asked you a question:" are you using hacks?" And you responded with :" if you ask a hacker if he is cheating he will always say no" by saying this you admitted that there's a possibility that you are using hacks. YOU SAID THIS BY YOURSELF. Also i am saying ON THE PROOFS YOU PROVIDED THAT ARE JOKE!
Remember when I told you to get to know the community? To not piss people off for your own benefit? To not annoy people because you couldn't take a joke? Yeah... this is why. We tried so hard to help you mesh into the community, and you just dynamited yourself out. Do you understand that "Awesome this only shows your attitude here. Great for letting me know what kind of person are you" is a death sentence here? Do you understand what Balsa fucking said? He just called open season on you. Every group application will get spammed by negative votes. Tag app, all negative. In a fight, every single user will aim at you before anyone else. And if you step a toe out of line people are going to report it. We just had this issue with @Eslam@ and ErTyO, whom ruined their reputations and got blasted from the community. Now, because you don't want to be nice, have basic respected, and be friendly, the community just turned on you. Why did [Lsrcr]Ackman think you used aimbot, to the point he reported you? Because he doesn't know you! You've never gotten to know him as a person, and you only care about your fucking score, so all he saw was a user with a set of incredible skills, no reputation, and a poor attitude. You know who usually is like that? HACKERS! Now, I'm not saying you are or are not hacking. If I felt you were truly doing something wrong, I'd be using /report, not saying it. But I do know is this: Your poor attitude has exiled you from this community.
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Post by OkaManThe$Wolf » September 16, 2020, 10:12 pm
i agreed with this Suggestion because With those people who have the tag Because they actually have no right to own property and accuse others just because there is no evidence it was supposed to To be punished, at least as warnings Also, I want to state my point of view, I do not agree For removal of a basic rule From the first place in the server And I also want to say that this way

It will allow other players to accuse people Although they do not have evidence, even how I said above I'll explain to you Accusation means smashing a reputation person's Also we will direct a lot from probelms in future If there is no punishment for everyone who tries to destroy the hearing of a good person This Everything Currently


I respect you and I respect your decision, but I am i have another point of view on this issue Thanks
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