[Lsrcr]Karu_Tepes - Report Hunting

[DrugsBoss]

Your name: DrugsBoss
Their name: [Lsrcr]Karu_Tepes
Reason: Report hunting
Proof: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=114311
Anything else: This player is manipulative.

[Karu_Tepes]

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=114311

Actually, [Lsrcr]geri spoke to me, and along with your reply that you deleted, I removed you from the report. Originally I added you only because you were in the video. I can't play favorites. But [Lsrcr]Geri pointed it it did only happen once, and that it's possible you just followed me without knowing it was really me. You were removed from the report before you even filed this.

If you think I'm filing a poor report, you are free to leave a LOGICAL defense, or talk to me on discord/in game. Once the points were pointed out, I removed you. I'm a bitch, but I'm not unreasonable or illogical.

[DrugsBoss]

I honestly wish you didn't

[Karu_Tepes]

I honestly wish you didn't

Well [Lsrcr]Geri made a case on your behalf, and I find his case plausible. I'm not going to report a user with a plausible defense or explanation. I also have dropped reports on users simply because they apologize. I've admitted many times I do not always get everything right. I'm a human, I make mistakes. Anyways, you were removed from the report as [Lsrcr]Geri made a reasonable case for you, and so you have no need to continue, as staff are not going to pursue it.

[DrugsBoss]

https://ls-rcr.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=114311

Actually, [Lsrcr]geri spoke to me, and along with your reply that you deleted, I removed you from the report. Originally I added you only because you were in the video. I can't play favorites. But [Lsrcr]Geri pointed it it did only happen once, and that it's possible you just followed me without knowing it was really me. You were removed from the report before you even filed this.

If you think I'm filing a poor report, you are free to leave a LOGICAL defense, or talk to me on discord/in game. Once the points were pointed out, I removed you. I'm a bitch, but I'm not unreasonable or illogical.

Admins can check and see that this topic was created sooner than the last edit on the report. This is a lie.

[Karu_Tepes]

https://ls-rcr.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=114311

Actually, [Lsrcr]geri spoke to me, and along with your reply that you deleted, I removed you from the report. Originally I added you only because you were in the video. I can't play favorites. But [Lsrcr]Geri pointed it it did only happen once, and that it's possible you just followed me without knowing it was really me. You were removed from the report before you even filed this.

If you think I'm filing a poor report, you are free to leave a LOGICAL defense, or talk to me on discord/in game. Once the points were pointed out, I removed you. I'm a bitch, but I'm not unreasonable or illogical.

Admins can check and see that this topic was created sooner than the last edit on the report. This is a lie.

When I began removing you from the report, this was not yet up (or at least I hadnt seen it) and your reply to the report WAS still there. I removed you and wrote a reply, but then got an error, saying the message was deleted. I then copy/pasted what I put, and refreshed the page to see this.

Please do check the times. I am almost certain this report and my removal most likely were being at the same time. Has you waited just a few minutes later, this wouldn't be the case. But if they check which messages I read first and so on, since you for some reason want to argue the semantics of "first post/second post" versus "both users were typing at the exact same time" they will find I opened my report, posted my message, and THEN refreshed to find this.

Actually, I did a timestamp check. Here is when I filed my reply to you.


Now, here is your report, as well as my reply here.


5:39 - You post this
5:45 - I finish deleting you from the report, posting my message, and so on. Note this is AFTER being given an error from you deleting your message, and my own typing time.
5:47 - I post here.

They can go ahead and check when I opened everything. They will find I worked on my report, and THEN yours. They will probably see me open my report at 5:37 or something, before you finished posting. Realistically, since you apparently want to argue the semantics, I was replying to your message on my report, telling you I had removed you, while you made this. You just typed faster/less and hit "submit" sooner.

Tell me, why are you doing this? [Lsrcr]Geri made your case, and I decided to remove you. So why say "I wish you hadn't" and now want to accuse me of lying and such? This seems like report hunting from your end now. You were forgiven, you got were removed. Take the win and go.

OH! Hold on... I can do one better. This is a snip of the conversation [Lsrcr]Geri and I had. He mentioned the report at 5:39, as soon as you posted. At this time, I was already working on my reply/removing you. This can also been seen as I said "Hold on, replying to drugs" because I was still typing.


Then, at 5:45, I said "I literally dropped the report (past tense) because you make a fair point, and he reports me anyways (current tense)


So, What we have here is two users doing things at the same time. I was removing you from the report at the same time you were reporting me. When I removed you, from my report, I had BEGUN before your topic had been made. It did NOT show on my screen when I began the process of removing you. It was not until AFTER I finished that your report showed. Staff can check when I started if they want, they will find I began before your post was visible. So no, I did not lie. I had begun the process of removing you before your report was posted. Literally had you waited like five or so minutes, we wouldn't be here.

Again, you were REMOVED from the report. [Lsrcr]Geri made your case. His defense was reasonable (It happened once, why didn't you lock the door) and I decided that yes, perhaps filing a report on you was not the best option. However, you're still carrying THIS report on, saying you "wish I hadn't removed you" and claiming I'm a liar the same amount of time it takes to get food at a drive through. Why are you not just accepting that you're not on report anymore? Why are you keeping up an invalid report?

[DrugsBoss]

Karu look I dont wanna keep going back and forth with you. You always have an answer for everything. I have no hate towards you but you reported me for bullshit reason such as searching you. That's considered report hunting. You said geri gave a defence on my part, what if he didnt. You would still have that stupid irrelevant report on me. Please stop targeting and trying to report hunt me to get me punished. I did NOTHING wrong. Searching is allowed no matter where you are. You jus got scared I was right so u decided to remove that silly report when geri made valid points. So dont make it seem like you are giving me a chance by deleting it. Its stupid and immature of you to do something like that. I'm tired of your bullshit Karu. This needs to stop. Stop lying to players and telling them that searching hitmen isn't allowed. Stop lying to players and telling them they cant search you in your house. There's no rule that says it's not allowed so please enough with this horseshit fantasy false rules that you keep making up for your gameplay experience to be better than everyone else's. Again I have nothing against you so stop trying your best to get me into trouble with admins. I am trying my very best to he a decent player on the server but people like you trigger me and make it very very hard to do so. You reported me for searching you. I have searched server admins and group admins but they dont come on forums and bitch about it like you do. You are asshurt I searched and arrested? Use /cry!

[Karu_Tepes]

You jus got scared I was right so u decided to remove that silly report when geri made valid points.

I wasn't scared in the least. I just agreed. He was reasonable.

Please stop targeting and trying to report hunt me to get me punished.

Actually the LAST thing I wanna do is report you. You've been improving and doing well. I don't want to see you get fucked because of stupid shit. I filed the report because at the time it seemed like the right thing to do because I had the video on 100k, and you we're on it. I felt like I really had no choice. How would it look if I report 100k for abuse, and not you? It'd look like I'm playing favorites! It would look like I'm hunting 100k and letting you go because reasons! Then that would be used against me by 100k as report hunting, saying I don't report my friends! I can't fucking win either way!

Stop lying to players and telling them that searching hitmen isn't allowed.

you dont know the specifics of that situation, but Fantastic and I talked. He agreed that it wasn't right, but also not entirely wrong. It was a complex situation. Next time I'm going to record what I meant. The user shot off my armor (cuff abuse) and then when he STILL couldn't win, he decided to cuff me and search me for the arrest at 5hp. I failed to explain myself well, so I do see how you can make that mistake.

Stop lying to players and telling them they cant search you in your house

I didn't say it was against the rules to search me in my house. I said it could be seen as bitching to follow me into my house for the sole purpose of searching me. Just like following a gang member into their base to search them at the racks is frowned upon. That's why the whole case on you was a "maybe", because it could go either way depending on which staff I talk to. I'm going to bringing the whole case up with Fantastic later, and get his opinion on it.

Again I have nothing against you so stop trying your best to get me into trouble with admins.

The issue there is that you've ruined my ability to trust you. viewtopic.php?f=11&t=111227&p=1033445 shows why I cannot trust you NOT to abuse things. You spent how long using /loc on me to rape me? And then lied about it? Tell me how I am supposed to trust you after that kind of a massive rule break. Technically speaking, you're not even supposed to come near me. You're supposed to leave me alone. You were told REPEATEDLY not to provoke me. I've been nice, I've been trying very hard to give you a chance. I've let you play near me, I've let you join me on cophunts, I've been a medic for you... that's ALOT of effort for me after everything you did. But when you have a history of stalking me that way, and others (viewtopic.php?f=11&t=113235) my mind immediately snaps to "Drugsboss is making another attempt to stalk me with intent to bitch" and so I act accordingly. I record, and I report, so staff can see it. I'm not actively trying to harm your account, quite the opposite. But you've done such cruel things that I can't help but flinch when you come at me. You don't grasp the kind of damage you have done in the past. And that past damage causes me to react in a way that you don't like, which is that I don't trust you and see everything you do as a repeat of the past.

I am trying my very best to he a decent player on the server but people like you trigger me and make it very very hard to do so.

I know you are, I've seen it. You saw that in your last tag application where I said as much, and what you need to improve on. BUT, you need to understand that after the damage you caused me, Granit, and so on, it's going to take time for us to fully come around to you again. I do love how you're trying, and I hope you truly mean it. A HUGE reason I removed the report was because of that. In fact, I'll leave a chart below of how I determined your report, and the removal.

You are asshurt I searched and arrested? Use /cry!

Come on now, you were doing SO well at making a decent reply. I was SO glad to see no insults, and actual logical replies. Granted you still need much work on your delivery, but it was going very well until that last part. This disappoints me.


How I came to the report/removal: This is literally a quick rundown of my thoughts through the day, and how I came to the decision to report, and remove, Drugsboss. Maybe once you see how my brain is ore like a binary fucking logic computer running Windows 3.1, you'll get how BLACK and WHITE things are for me, and why 'maybes' are a fucking nightmare for me

->Recording 100K
->Hiding near Luxury House. Will he hunt me?
->Cop close, go inside. If it's 100k, he'll DM you and you will have the final proof needed
->Scrim? Why is scrim in my house? He;s been improving, so maybe he wants to talk
*Karu is arrested by drugsboss*
->What the fuck? What was the point of that? He knows I'm recording this DMer
->No normal player would just casually follow me into my house JUST to search me. There's not point
->Plenty of other wanteds on the map too!
->Did he do it just to annoy me? Is he going to start stalking me again?

***Next morning, reviewing evidence***
->Four good videos on 100k
->This one has Scrim in it...
->I have to post this video against 100k, it's my best proof
->I can't cut it, it'll leave the bandicut marker. That could make it look editted. That could invalidate it
->I have to report 100k, he's done this far too many times
->I cant let scrim off either... staff will think i'm choosing who to report and who to ignore. That could be seen as report hunting...
->ok, I'll report 100k for certain, and put scrim as a "maybe" and let the staff fight it out. It's the best way for him to get a fair go
***home from work, report filed***
->Geri messaged me... ok then
->Geri makes good points
->I think Geri is right. I can remove scrim and not get in trouble. They won't see it as report hunting to not report him. Even if they ask, I can claim it was a single event and I won't get nailed for picking and choosing.
->ok, delete him from the... oh, he left a reply? Well, it's poorly worded but it's also the best defense I'll get from him. Even better, now I can say he explained it and I can forgive him without staff getting pissed off at me for not report him, because I simply forgave it!

[Karu_Tepes]

So, ima point something out... the report you were originally mentioned in was for stalking with into to be a community annoyance. Now let me ask you, does this fit the fucking bill?





You follow me into my fucking luxury house unprovoked knowing full well I was recording 100k, search me and arrest me. That was the original report. You had no reason to enter my home, but ya did it anyways. Oh, and then tonight? I went AFK while in jail to go smoke. And when I return, who is there with my ID pre-fucking-typed to search/arrest me when I come back? YOU! Oh, and what does staff think of your shenanigans? Well, I asked Guntimer, one of the longest standing staff here. he had this to say...



Now, do you have a history of stalking me with intent to bitch?
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=111227

Now you tell me Drugsboss/Sa_Scrim... with your past of repeatedly stalking me to be an annoyance and lying about it to staff, and then you coming into my house for no reason to search me, and then WAITING WHILE I WAS AFK with my id pretyped to search/arrest me, was my original report "a report hunt" because it was one time, or is this something you do every god damn day!? Because this is a daily occurrence. Or sure, you do it only once, maybe twice a day, but it's every day. These proofs are from today, and yesterday. Now you look at these proofs, and you tell me I shouldn't feel like you're intentionally stalking me to be an annoyance! How should anyone look at this and think you're not doing this with the sole intent to piss me off?

[DrugsBoss]

Lol dude you were cophunting before you were jailed. I was planning to search you when you got out cuz i knew u had drugs on you but i wasn't stalking you. I wasn't waiting for you at PD to get off from afk.Lmao im literally exhausted. I'll let staff handle it