Let's Discuss

[Balsa]

Hi guys, I know my topic maybe get some of you angry or annoy you maybe it's a bad idea or discussed before, anyways what I want to say is that why we don't make forgiveness available for hackers, like if a hacker was banned in rules it's impossible to get him unbanned, but why we don't give a second chance so we have less ban evaders and who just come being angry of ADMINs just to hack and ruin everything in the server, and a question for you guys, if we gave a second chance for a hacker that is banned for using a hack who made unban appeal would we get less hackers in-game and ban evaders or not?
A note: Please whatever is your opinion or your point here just make it nice and don't get angry let's just discuss it maturely.

The point is. Now I'm going to stay on ADMINs side. The thing is, they are human beings I mean, they have real lifes too. They can't really be on SAMP 24/7. You and kids like you need to understand one thing is that., Admins didn't gave you or for anyone example Hero_dark 2 chances. They gave 213124124. And the thing is most of you don't even appreciate that. For example let's go back to Hero_dark's case. 12312421 chances he had, and still messed up because of asking for rights. Than he came back in UC to hack. Do you think that a guy like him should change with another chance there? NO, he won't. Do you maybe know why? Cuz, he's a little jelaous and greedy retard that doesn't care about fair gameplay or anything. That's why I'm going to say that no-one of you deserve a second chance if admins think you don't. We don't know you personally. Why should we give you second chance after 1230321 warnings and idk how many bans, rulebreaks? What actually tells us that you won't do that again? That you won't end up like Dollarman or Hero_dark again. Think about that a little and don't be a little selfish shit only thinking about yourself. You should start thinking about admins that are working their asses off to make this server great for who knows how many years. If I was on some of their places I would catch every little kid that's eveading. And I would force myself 24/7 to be there. Just to stop that. Really you should start thinking about others bro. This thing you said here really pissed me off. I mean I'm nothing, only regular player. But surely I can understand all admins what it's like to ban and catch hackers or eveaders. Just read this carefully and then think if you actually do deserve a chance.

I am here to discuss not to be rude please do not talk to me like that again you are just being rude, I didn't get a ban and I am not protecting any banned player I just got this thing in my head and I wanted to share it to see others' opinions about it, so I am not selfish or a kid or anything why are you talking to me like that bro? Did I hurt you by this topic?? Can you please be polite as I said just discuss maturely... Anyways I didn't say any shit about admins I said they are doing best job and working so hard, I did appreciate what they are doing who said I don't deserve a chance??? Am I. Banned man? What is wrong with you I am not a ban evader or a bad guy to tell me this. What the hell is going on!
If what I said pissed you off then calm down then explain your opinion about it don't just be rude please don't make it a big case.

Oh lol my apologies i though you were banned and started begging for unban lol

[Panadol]

I am playing here only because of the global unban, don't know if it's fair or not, but it is what it is. I also believe that many players that were unbanned in global unban didn't deserve to be unbanned, and they ended up using cheats even after getting unbanned, and got banned again, only to make another ban appeal that said "I will not do it again".
I used megajump cheats in 2014 and ban evaded quite a lot of times, what matters is the intention of the cheater. I didn't know the fuck it was, sure I knew it was something cool because it made me jump really high and I was dumb enough to use it infront of an admin to get instantly banned, used parkour mods that I didn't know were allowed.
Even if I said that I didn't know that it's allowed, no one would have believed (or maybe they would have) because that is what every desperate cheater says, so I decided to evade.
Aimbotters and keybinders will have a really hard time getting unbanned, because they knew what they were using and they used some cheat to call themselves "pro".
Even if we consider unbanning someone who used aimbot / keybind, I'd say he needs to be given a chance to apply for unban after 2-3 years (minimum), and then consider his ban appeal.
People who account share should be given more leniency. None of this matters anyway because it will never be implemented, it might be right or wrong. The main point it, it's 2021, and mostly every cheater that cheats in LSRCR, knows what he is doing. Even after knowing that cheating is not allowed, they use cheats, and for that, I don't think they should be unbanned easily, or even unbanned at all.
(also, considering the evidence we need to prove that someone is using aimbot / keybind, they really should never be unbanned, unless there is some really good reason behind why the did what they did)

Well Beaten you got a point, I understand it and I actually agree with your points that you said here, you are right but sometimes I do feel some hackers hack just for a wrong decision they make, then they ban evade to play in the server but if he ban evaded without using cheats then I think he does not want to be banned forever and what he wants is just to play in the server, as I said ADMINs are very good decisions makers, and they are the best members in this server and deserved to be ADMINs and they are working so hard on this server and not letting it off just like they don't care, they do and they are good to everyone and active and everything good, but maybe some of the hackers deserve not all of them of course and maybe most of them do not deserve IDK...

[Panadol]

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The point is. Now I'm going to stay on ADMINs side. The thing is, they are human beings I mean, they have real lifes too. They can't really be on SAMP 24/7. You and kids like you need to understand one thing is that., Admins didn't gave you or for anyone example Hero_dark 2 chances. They gave 213124124. And the thing is most of you don't even appreciate that. For example let's go back to Hero_dark's case. 12312421 chances he had, and still messed up because of asking for rights. Than he came back in UC to hack. Do you think that a guy like him should change with another chance there? NO, he won't. Do you maybe know why? Cuz, he's a little jelaous and greedy retard that doesn't care about fair gameplay or anything. That's why I'm going to say that no-one of you deserve a second chance if admins think you don't. We don't know you personally. Why should we give you second chance after 1230321 warnings and idk how many bans, rulebreaks? What actually tells us that you won't do that again? That you won't end up like Dollarman or Hero_dark again. Think about that a little and don't be a little selfish shit only thinking about yourself. You should start thinking about admins that are working their asses off to make this server great for who knows how many years. If I was on some of their places I would catch every little kid that's eveading. And I would force myself 24/7 to be there. Just to stop that. Really you should start thinking about others bro. This thing you said here really pissed me off. I mean I'm nothing, only regular player. But surely I can understand all admins what it's like to ban and catch hackers or eveaders. Just read this carefully and then think if you actually do deserve a chance.

I am here to discuss not to be rude please do not talk to me like that again you are just being rude, I didn't get a ban and I am not protecting any banned player I just got this thing in my head and I wanted to share it to see others' opinions about it, so I am not selfish or a kid or anything why are you talking to me like that bro? Did I hurt you by this topic?? Can you please be polite as I said just discuss maturely... Anyways I didn't say any shit about admins I said they are doing best job and working so hard, I did appreciate what they are doing who said I don't deserve a chance??? Am I. Banned man? What is wrong with you I am not a ban evader or a bad guy to tell me this. What the hell is going on!
If what I said pissed you off then calm down then explain your opinion about it don't just be rude please don't make it a big case.

Oh lol my apologies i though you were banned and started begging for unban lol

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Well okay and I thought we are friends and that you know me well IDK how you called me selfish and kid just because I am banned.
But it happens so NP.

[Immortal]

Idk if you realize this but this is already in effect since early 2019. Any cheater that appeals their ban is unbanned (exception is if they have a ridiculous punishment history, past punishments for the same offence or someone who is aware of our rules). You don't notice this because there are rarely any cheaters who appeal their ban. 99% cheat, get banned and we never see them again

The only bans that are not debatable are aimbot and keybind. And this is very unlikely to change

If you're saying we need to give second chances to people then you're wrong because most are on at least their fifth chance

[Panadol]

Idk if you realize this but this is already in effect since early 2019. Any cheater that appeals their ban is unbanned (exception is if they have a ridiculous punishment history, past punishments for the same offence or someone who is aware of our rules). You don't notice this because there are rarely any cheaters who appeal their ban. 99% cheat, get banned and we never see them again

The only bans that are not debatable are aimbot and keybind. And this is very unlikely to change

If you're saying we need to give second chances to people then you're wrong because most are on at least their fifth chance

Oh sorry I didn't know this thing happened before my suggestion that it was on the server because I played since 2013 to 2014 then I had to quit until I came back in 2021, so I didn't know that this was happeneing before I am sorry then you are right I am wrong.

[Crazymix]

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I am here to discuss not to be rude please do not talk to me like that again you are just being rude, I didn't get a ban and I am not protecting any banned player I just got this thing in my head and I wanted to share it to see others' opinions about it, so I am not selfish or a kid or anything why are you talking to me like that bro? Did I hurt you by this topic?? Can you please be polite as I said just discuss maturely... Anyways I didn't say any shit about admins I said they are doing best job and working so hard, I did appreciate what they are doing who said I don't deserve a chance??? Am I. Banned man? What is wrong with you I am not a ban evader or a bad guy to tell me this. What the hell is going on!
If what I said pissed you off then calm down then explain your opinion about it don't just be rude please don't make it a big case.

Oh lol my apologies i though you were banned and started begging for unban lol

Well okay and I thought we are friends and that you know me well IDK how you called me selfish and kid just because I am banned.
But it happens so NP.[/quote]

friendship has ended oh shit mak sad on me

[Balsa]

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Well okay and I thought we are friends and that you know me well IDK how you called me selfish and kid just because I am banned.
But it happens so NP.

friendship has ended oh shit mak sad on me [/quote]

Fact you

[Vic]

You hacking once, you hacking again, you ban evade, you will do it again. I did. We dont need this toxic players in our community. maybe they will have luck in global unban or something. good luck for them.

[Zzkiller]

Something like special unban application with votes : ) I think this happened in 2015 by Lsrcr words

[Sinwar]

Idk if you realize this but this is already in effect since early 2019. Any cheater that appeals their ban is unbanned (exception is if they have a ridiculous punishment history, past punishments for the same offence or someone who is aware of our rules). You don't notice this because there are rarely any cheaters who appeal their ban. 99% cheat, get banned and we never see them again

The only bans that are not debatable are aimbot and keybind. And this is very unlikely to change

If you're saying we need to give second chances to people then you're wrong because most are on at least their fifth chance

Okay but what about people didn't get any chance before ? also we can't judge on someone to be banned forever we are humans bro we are not angles you are saying that because you didn't get banned before i know you gonna say i'm not stupid to cheat but we are underage you can't judge on me or anyone for banning forever it's not a real life also there's already 2nd chance in the real life. No bro it's really unfair