Revert uncuff cooldown update [priority please]

[ackman]

Your name: [Lsrcr]Ackman
Suggestion headline: Revert uncuff cooldown update
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Importance of suggestion: 7/10 (Shows how much it would mean to server/players)
Why should it be accepted: It's kinda buggy right now, even if implemented without the bugs it'd not be useful. At least this shouldn't be the case for Army members since I believe this update was brought to over come the problem of stealing which is mostly done by newbies so I guess it'd be best to limit this within the Cops skin and make an exception for SWAT/Army.

[Mockery]

I have a mixed opinion on this. The cooldown itself if we look at it generally was always needed since some players constantly uncuff their friends to escape when cuffed by other leos which gets super annoying at times. However, the case is different for army members. I have witnessed many times that while army members are dueling a suspect, a random cop appears and arrests the suspect. Hence, the only solution that comes to my mind is that army members should be immune to this uncuff cool down. However, strict rules should be implemented by the army high command where army members should not be allowed to steal by uncuffing other cops suspects to kill them or whatsoever.

[Squanix]

POLICE side:

This update was added to avoid the bitching from cops, I mean when you cuff the chased suspect, do you like to see a cop constantly uncuffing him? a logic answer 'NO', the 5 seconds able to help you to arrest him before getting uncuffed, so that's why it should remain.

SWAT side:

I think it doesn't matter to swat because if we cuff a suspect, other leos will be not able to do anything, I mean they can't uncuff him, so nothing wrong i guess, the problem is just the speed of commands in swat test, but the staff team already found a solution for it.

to ARMY:

since that annoying and your suspects can be stolen from newbies (cops), you can easily arrest, isn't it urs?

I disagree about reverting it for now.

[FeinT.]

POLICE side:

This update was added to avoid the bitching from cops, I mean when you cuff the chased suspect, do you like to see a cop constantly uncuffing him? a logic answer 'NO', the 5 seconds able to help you to arrest him before getting uncuffed, so that's why it should remain.

SWAT side:

I think it doesn't matter to swat because if we cuff a suspect, other leos will be not able to do anything, I mean they can't uncuff him, so nothing wrong i guess, the problem is just the speed of commands in swat test, but the staff team already found a solution for it.

to ARMY:

since that annoying and your suspects can be stolen from newbies (cops), you can easily arrest, isn't it urs?

I disagree about reverting it for now.

I do agree with Squanix. Also, Army members gets score for arresting so yea you can just arrest the suspect.

[AK33L]

POLICE side:

This update was added to avoid the bitching from cops, I mean when you cuff the chased suspect, do you like to see a cop constantly uncuffing him? a logic answer 'NO', the 5 seconds able to help you to arrest him before getting uncuffed, so that's why it should remain.

SWAT side:

I think it doesn't matter to swat because if we cuff a suspect, other leos will be not able to do anything, I mean they can't uncuff him, so nothing wrong i guess, the problem is just the speed of commands in swat test, but the staff team already found a solution for it.

to ARMY:

since that annoying and your suspects can be stolen from newbies (cops), you can easily arrest, isn't it urs?

I disagree about reverting it for now.

If that’s your iq then dont call us army lol change our name to FBI or Special Mobile Force(SMF), when swat was facing a trouble about bomb an update was brought up, about steal a cuff update was brought up, you could have still go along with it even people were having issues about it, but when army having an issue just use /ar lol, Ackman make it to army suggestion bro, its to easy to arrest we don’t play here to arrest. If that’s the case imagine i get pissed off dlike 6 to 7 times daily cuz of these retarded cafe kids who steal my sus all day long they simply came and arrest or do the last shot, mostly arrest idk if they like to piss army members off but what should we always be prepared for an arrest now? To be honest no one is ready as an army for an arrest until its needed then it’s prepared but imagine preparing an arrest before every duel plus we fighting someone who asked a duel should we arrest him lol? Cmon your opinion doesnt make any sense to me. The cops have advantage over us when we are fighting we mostly arent near the sus and cops have /taze which is easier by the time we saw the sus cuff and rush to it, sent to by alca by cafeshit(99).

[DrugsBoss]

I agree with ackman. That /uncuff cooldown should be reverted at least for army members alone. Army members are allowed to arrest but we shouldn't have to arrest a suspect just because another cop comes and interrupts a battle. Plus constant arresting in armyskin isn't allowed apparently. I myself was in a situation where I was engaging a suspect when a cop came out of nowhere and cuffed him. I tried to uncuff so I can finish my battle but the cooldown prevented me. So yall should really see about that

[Karu_Tepes]

I think instead of reverting it, it should be score based. Most of the people abusing the uncuff are new accounts, who either don't know the rules, are are evaders trying to provoke regular users. Just like how you need so much score to place hits, so much score to get the /rp command, I think score (army/swat exempt) would be a better way to go.

[ackman]

to ARMY:

since that annoying and your suspects can be stolen from newbies (cops), you can easily arrest, isn't it urs?

I disagree about reverting it for now.

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So the reports like these comes more often? Arresting in Army isn't allowed unless very NECESSARY, this is the reason the taze command was also revoked for us.

Just like we do not complaint about SWAT having long cuff range than other LEO classes, separating the LEO class by /swar, I don't think reverting the update for specfically army members would cause any trouble.

[Grizzly]

+1 , I decided to agree with this suggestion, this really annoying by undercover accounts keep stealing suspect others who wants to fight criminals.

[Faraon78910]

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I think instead of reverting it, it should be score based. Most of the people abusing the uncuff are new accounts, who either don't know the rules, are are evaders trying to provoke regular users. Just like how you need so much score to place hits, so much score to get the /rp command, I think score (army/swat exempt) would be a better way to go.

I don't think this would help much. I still get PMs from 5k score players 'uncuff team rank'.

I was actually going to suggest this but only for armies because only we need this. You can't revert this for cops. There are just too many asslickers who would uncuff you for anything. Before update, during cophunt, without asking anyone to uncuff me I would have 2-3 cops just uncuffing me. Swats have their own cuff system so they don't need this.

since that annoying and your suspects can be stolen from newbies (cops), you can easily arrest, isn't it urs?

Just ridiculous. I'm an army not a cop. Even if I pretype ar, I keep distance during a duel and when cop comes he does cuff ar in a second and he's always faster than me.
Now, for all swats who think like Squanix that this is not a problem, imagine this is suggestion for /swar. Ask yourself same question you asked us "since that annoying and your suspects can be stolen from newbies (cops), you can easily arrest drag, isn't it urs?". Just imagine, you're alone at LSA, one suspect, you're going to taze him and suddenly out of nowhere some cop comes and does straight cuff ar in a second. Imagine how happy you would be.

I have lost at least 20 suspects just at LSA because of cafe stealers and because I cannot uncuff. There's no point in talking to that cop because they don't give a fuck and most of the time they do this on purpose.