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- [Lsrcr]Lost_Soul
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Your name: Karuminska
Suggestion headline: Redo the rules for the server to include some which were accidentally removed, as well as add some for new forms of abuse that have been showing up.
Forum/Main Website: Main
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Why should we accept this:
A while back, we redid the server rules. It sadly cut out many rules, and left some holes in it that have been exploited to a point of being questioned on whether or not the rule exists. Since it's been a topic with alot of debate, I decided to make this and see what people think of it.
Small edit: This is NOT a new discussion, originally these were sent to Fantastic and Whiskey several months ago, and it was suggested I post them here.
LS-RCR SAMP RULES
By creating an Ls-rcr account on the SA-MP mod, you agree to the following rules:
Deathmatching is forbidden: Killing a user without reasonable cause or under incorrect circumstances is considered Deathmatching, and includes the following:
1: Shooting or damaging innocent players as an innocent or law enforcement officer.
2: Shooting or damaging another player who you successfully robbed, raped, broke, etc. before they attacked you first.
3: Shooting or damaging another player who only unsuccessfully robbed, raped, broke, etc. you.
4: Carrying out your own hit.
5: Assisting in the killing of a user you do not have the right to harm, however melee weapons are still allowed, exclusing chainsaw.
6: Recklessly heliblade innocent users.
7: Shooting Pagati members who are NOT actively taking hits.
Examples of Deathmatching: Using a motorcycle to kill random users. Attacking people who you harmed unless they attack first. Placing a hit and then switching to hitman and taking said hit. Killing an innocent civilian who was teaming with police via helicopter rotors.
8: Abuse the /cuff command, or cuff hitmen with the intent to harm them or search/arrest them while you have a hit.
Pagati exceptions:
-Pagati: 1:Camping outside the Pagati base in Blueberry, chasing Pagati members, or interfering in roleplay, airdrops, or other Pagati activities is NOT allowed. However, you CAN shoot at a Pagati member if you have a hit and they come to you and you have reason to believe they intend to take the hit.
-2: Pagati members may take carry out their own hits in the course of official Pagati roleplay, if the hit was placed by the server for Pagati automatically, or if you enter the Pagati base without permission and do not leave when asked by members to do so, in which case they may open fire without a hit being placed on you.
Exceptions, general
Reasonable time frame: In instances where you do have the right to harm another user, the following REMOVES the right: Your death, their death, your arrest, their arrest, if they escape from you for a reasonable time frame of three minutes.
-Exceptions: 1:The use of melee weapons is always allowed, except for the chainsaw. Vehicles also do not count as melee weapons, and players are forbidden to ram or intentionally park on top of users they do not have a right to harm.
-2: Shooting a vehicle where the driver is innocent, but you are justified in shooting a passenger is allowed.
Abuse the /rp or /hit commands:
1: The /rp command may be used for any reasonable roleplay reason such as but not limited to: Holding a weapon in public, Assault, Reckless driving, Damaging property.
2: Hits may be placed for roleplay reasons, including but not limited to: For successfully or unsuccessfully committing a hostile action against you, for arresting or fining you, for causing damage to your vehicle, for following you for an extended period of time, for assaulting you, for car theft, for insulting you, or for placing a hit on you
Escape anyone able to harm you by the following measures:
1: Using /q or /rq to evade a cop/hitman who is reasonably close to you (their name tag is visible) and returning within 30 minutes, OR if you leave/return in 30 minutes three or more times.
2: Intentionally committing suicide by any means such as gas pumps or jumping from high buildings
3: Repeatedly entering/exiting interiors to avoid damage/annoy pursuing users
4: Pressing G to enter an unoccupied vehicle to use drugs or type commands while avoiding damage via the animation of entering
5: By abusing the megajump while being chased
6: Entering a safezone or group base or any other area the pursuer cannot enter with the exception of criminals escaping police by going into the black market.
-Exceptions to evading:1: Criminals may enter any police checkpoint to surrender themselves
2: Entering an interior a single time to use it, such as Kurtiso's house
3: Earning a "Darwin Award" (unintentional death by your own stupidity) such as standing next to a gas pump as police shoot at you, jumping off a short roof with no health, or staying in a car as it's shot until it explodes.
Scoreboost 1:Scoreboosting to increase your score by unfair means,such as:
1: Leaving to evade cooldown timers
2: Working with another user with the sole intent to raise your score by unfair means
3: Standing in the LSPD checkpoint where criminals are released from jail with the intent to search them for drugs. Paroling users to search them will be considered a worse version of this abuse
4: Harming users in order to sell them weapons, drugs, or heals/cure. You CAN however sell to them if they request WITHOUT being asked to by you as long as it's not repeatedly done.
-exception: 1:Hitmen may stand by the LSPD release point or outside Alcatraz to make a hit claim event, and may also take a users hit if the player offers to let them do so for a valid reason such as to join an event, leave the server, or to prevent another hitman taking the hit and robbing them on death.
2: Police may arrest/kill a user who allowed them to do so for a valid reason, such as they wish to join an event or leave the server.
Exchange any Lsrcr goods or services for real-life currency. These goods include, but are not limited to, donator points, jail cards, or duel cards.
Community annoyance: Any attempt to purposely annoy, provoke, bitch, or otherwise bother other users is forbidden and is NOT limited to:
1: Following someone for more than three minutes within a ten minute period without reason (such as a cop after a wanted or hitman after a user with a hit)
2: Committing more than three hostile actions toward another player within a ten minute period if that player did not retaliate with an attack or a hostile action in return.
3: Entering group bases, safe zones, private houses, or camping spawn locations without reason with the intent to search, rob, rape or commit a hostile action. Police may however camp the Black Market exit, and Pagati may fire upon users with hits who are camping outside their base.
4: Police may not stand inside the LSPD safezone to fire at criminals outside the safe zone
5: Police may not arrest a suspect another officer has cuffed unless: The cuffing officer gives permission, the cuffing officer has been killed, the suspect has escaped a reasonable distance and has not yet broken their cuffs or had their cuffs picked.
6: Ram other users with a vehicle or use a water canon from the fire engine/SWAT tank unless the have the right to harm the user
7: Spam ANY form of chat or flood chat. Non-English in main chats is also not allowed. This includes /cm, /news, /ask, and /adm. Group chats however ARE allowed to have Non-English, but not spam.
8: Leave the game via /q or /rq to avoid being robbed on death.
Harass other users: 1: Any forms of racism are forbidden!
2: Heavily insulting other users, such as telling them you "will fuck their mom"
3: Repeatedly ask users for their social media (facebook, instagram, snapchat)
4: Ask for their information such as name, location, sexual orientation if they do not feel comfortable sharing it.
5: Ask Event Managers repeatedly to host events, even if you offer a reward.
-Exception: Users are allowed to make light insults at friends, such "Welcome back Fantastic, you nub" as long as no racism or heavy insults such as "Welcome back Fantastic you fucking n*gger" are used.
Cheat/hack/Illegal Third Party Mods: Any form of third party modification which gives an unfair advantage is absolutely forbidden and will be punished with zero chance to rejoin the server! These include but are in no way limited to: Airbreak, aimbot, keybinders, teleports, no-reload, auto-switcher, extrazoom, sniperzoom, speed improvements, S0bi3t, wallhacks, health hacks, auto-aim, weapon spawners, vehicle spawners, parkour mods, insta-enter, insta-heli, map hacks that show icons in events where they have been turned off, remote vehicle jacking, rapid fire, object spawner, invisibility, invincibility, trainers, unlimited sprint, and any other advantage giving mod.
Abuse bugs: Any form of bug abuse, known or unknown to players/staff is not allowed. This includes:
1: C-bug with any weapon
2: Quickslide/ slide bug, skate bug
3: Megajumping on a bicycle when being chased by someone who has a valid reason to harm you
4: Not relogging when you are failing to take damage or your ping is unreasonably high
5: Enter collision detection errors (walls you can walk through)
6: G-bug (warping through objects by pressing g to get into a vehicle UNLESS it is to remove yourself from an invalid location due to an unintentional bug (such as forced through a wall during a car crash)
AFK Abuse:1:Kidnap or drag an AFK user
2: Go AFK while selling hot dogs
3: Go AFK while having a hit
4: Go AFK to avoid being arrested by the SWAT team.
Scamming Users are allowed to scam other users as long as:
Scammer does not have the Lsrcr tag.
Scammer does not scam more than $300,000.
Trade does not involve any donation items. This does not include a donated house.
The victim of the scam has at least 500 score.
Ban Evade: Any form of using an account to log into the server if you have been issued a ban is absolutely forbidden! This includes: Dynamic IPs, VPNs, Cafe Wifi, using someone else's account, using an alt you already made, or making a new alt.
Report hunt: Filing malicious reports by any of the following is not allowed:
1: If you encouraged the player to break a rule solely to report them
2: As revenge for a personal issue with the reported user
3: If it's over a minor rule violation that could have been worked out in game (such as a user taking a hit and accidentally shoots you in the crossfire)
4: Filing a report that does not affect you or the server, such as if user A deathmatches user B, you cannot file a report on user A. It is User Bs decision if they wish to report it or not. However reporting hackers, spammers, and other rules that affect the server as a whole is allowed even if you are not affected.
5: Report users who reported you for "report hunting". Simply mention it in your defense and allow staff to handle it there so as to not clutter the forums with dozens of reports
6: Report users for group related issues
7: Report users for content on discord UNLESS: The user found your discord solely through the official HAN Discord server, contacted you without permission, and did so to spam, insult, harass, or provoke.
8: Filing a report in good faith, meaning you truly believe a rule was broken (such as misunderstanding a rule), even if it wasn't, will not be seen as report hunting. Filing multiple reports daily when most/all are rule breaks that lead to a punishment is also not report hunting.
Miscellaneous: Rules that don't fit anywhere else
1: Lying to staff during the course of an investigation is not allowed
2: Send or share any of the following content:
Malicious files (malware): content including, but not limited to, trojans, ransomware, keyloggers, DDoS, or game cheats.
Executable files: content including, but not limited to, ".EXE" files, scripts, or any other file designed to be run or executed on any system.
Mature content: content including, but not limited to, pornography, realistic gore or violence, nudity, and sexual content.
Copyrighted content: content including, but not limited to, any content that the owner holds the exclusive rights to that you do not have permission to distribute.
3: Players are not allowed to encourage others to break rules
4: Exploiting loopholes within the rules as they are written is forbidden, and can lead to harsher punishments.
5: Disobey orders from a staff member
6: Abuse the /tune function in any way
7: Send any links that are not from ls-rcr.com
8: Tagged members are not to discuss tag votes or attempt to influence votes. Users MAY however talk about a vote between the voter and the votee.
LS-RCR Discord rules:
1: Users may not speak non-english in the HAN server
2: Users may not report what is said on Discord unless it was in the HAN server, or the rule regarding harassment.
3: Ls-rcr will NOT police Discord groups, channels, or DMs that are not from the HAN server.
4: Users are forbidden from using Discord chats to make in game decisions, such as: Claiming a poor attitude when voting because of a previous Discord conversation, file reports based on Discord chats, unless it abides by rule 2, share Discord messages as evidence in a report, post Discord DMs without permission from the other users involved.
5: Block members of Ls-rcr staff on your Discord account.
6: Use Discord DMs to hide information from staff
7: Contact staff to report users UNLESS the report contains: keybind evidence, aimbot evidence, sensitive content not safe for forums, or if you believe a public report will start drama that should be avoided.
LS-RCR Forum Rules:
1: Users may not share graphic images, unsafe links, pirated software, or cheat software.
2: Users are forbidden from posting another users picture, video, name, or location
3: Signatures are not to contain any harassing content, such as screenshots of chat/discord designed to provoke a user, or make a user seem toxic/stupid.
4: May not misuse the forums for any reason.
5: Charge back donations for any reason!
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Suggestion headline: Redo the rules for the server to include some which were accidentally removed, as well as add some for new forms of abuse that have been showing up.
Forum/Main Website: Main
Picture: This is optional
Spoiler: show
A while back, we redid the server rules. It sadly cut out many rules, and left some holes in it that have been exploited to a point of being questioned on whether or not the rule exists. Since it's been a topic with alot of debate, I decided to make this and see what people think of it.
Small edit: This is NOT a new discussion, originally these were sent to Fantastic and Whiskey several months ago, and it was suggested I post them here.
LS-RCR SAMP RULES
By creating an Ls-rcr account on the SA-MP mod, you agree to the following rules:
Deathmatching is forbidden: Killing a user without reasonable cause or under incorrect circumstances is considered Deathmatching, and includes the following:
1: Shooting or damaging innocent players as an innocent or law enforcement officer.
2: Shooting or damaging another player who you successfully robbed, raped, broke, etc. before they attacked you first.
3: Shooting or damaging another player who only unsuccessfully robbed, raped, broke, etc. you.
4: Carrying out your own hit.
5: Assisting in the killing of a user you do not have the right to harm, however melee weapons are still allowed, exclusing chainsaw.
6: Recklessly heliblade innocent users.
7: Shooting Pagati members who are NOT actively taking hits.
Examples of Deathmatching: Using a motorcycle to kill random users. Attacking people who you harmed unless they attack first. Placing a hit and then switching to hitman and taking said hit. Killing an innocent civilian who was teaming with police via helicopter rotors.
8: Abuse the /cuff command, or cuff hitmen with the intent to harm them or search/arrest them while you have a hit.
Pagati exceptions:
-Pagati: 1:Camping outside the Pagati base in Blueberry, chasing Pagati members, or interfering in roleplay, airdrops, or other Pagati activities is NOT allowed. However, you CAN shoot at a Pagati member if you have a hit and they come to you and you have reason to believe they intend to take the hit.
-2: Pagati members may take carry out their own hits in the course of official Pagati roleplay, if the hit was placed by the server for Pagati automatically, or if you enter the Pagati base without permission and do not leave when asked by members to do so, in which case they may open fire without a hit being placed on you.
Exceptions, general
Reasonable time frame: In instances where you do have the right to harm another user, the following REMOVES the right: Your death, their death, your arrest, their arrest, if they escape from you for a reasonable time frame of three minutes.
-Exceptions: 1:The use of melee weapons is always allowed, except for the chainsaw. Vehicles also do not count as melee weapons, and players are forbidden to ram or intentionally park on top of users they do not have a right to harm.
-2: Shooting a vehicle where the driver is innocent, but you are justified in shooting a passenger is allowed.
Abuse the /rp or /hit commands:
1: The /rp command may be used for any reasonable roleplay reason such as but not limited to: Holding a weapon in public, Assault, Reckless driving, Damaging property.
2: Hits may be placed for roleplay reasons, including but not limited to: For successfully or unsuccessfully committing a hostile action against you, for arresting or fining you, for causing damage to your vehicle, for following you for an extended period of time, for assaulting you, for car theft, for insulting you, or for placing a hit on you
Escape anyone able to harm you by the following measures:
1: Using /q or /rq to evade a cop/hitman who is reasonably close to you (their name tag is visible) and returning within 30 minutes, OR if you leave/return in 30 minutes three or more times.
2: Intentionally committing suicide by any means such as gas pumps or jumping from high buildings
3: Repeatedly entering/exiting interiors to avoid damage/annoy pursuing users
4: Pressing G to enter an unoccupied vehicle to use drugs or type commands while avoiding damage via the animation of entering
5: By abusing the megajump while being chased
6: Entering a safezone or group base or any other area the pursuer cannot enter with the exception of criminals escaping police by going into the black market.
-Exceptions to evading:1: Criminals may enter any police checkpoint to surrender themselves
2: Entering an interior a single time to use it, such as Kurtiso's house
3: Earning a "Darwin Award" (unintentional death by your own stupidity) such as standing next to a gas pump as police shoot at you, jumping off a short roof with no health, or staying in a car as it's shot until it explodes.
Scoreboost 1:Scoreboosting to increase your score by unfair means,such as:
1: Leaving to evade cooldown timers
2: Working with another user with the sole intent to raise your score by unfair means
3: Standing in the LSPD checkpoint where criminals are released from jail with the intent to search them for drugs. Paroling users to search them will be considered a worse version of this abuse
4: Harming users in order to sell them weapons, drugs, or heals/cure. You CAN however sell to them if they request WITHOUT being asked to by you as long as it's not repeatedly done.
-exception: 1:Hitmen may stand by the LSPD release point or outside Alcatraz to make a hit claim event, and may also take a users hit if the player offers to let them do so for a valid reason such as to join an event, leave the server, or to prevent another hitman taking the hit and robbing them on death.
2: Police may arrest/kill a user who allowed them to do so for a valid reason, such as they wish to join an event or leave the server.
Exchange any Lsrcr goods or services for real-life currency. These goods include, but are not limited to, donator points, jail cards, or duel cards.
Community annoyance: Any attempt to purposely annoy, provoke, bitch, or otherwise bother other users is forbidden and is NOT limited to:
1: Following someone for more than three minutes within a ten minute period without reason (such as a cop after a wanted or hitman after a user with a hit)
2: Committing more than three hostile actions toward another player within a ten minute period if that player did not retaliate with an attack or a hostile action in return.
3: Entering group bases, safe zones, private houses, or camping spawn locations without reason with the intent to search, rob, rape or commit a hostile action. Police may however camp the Black Market exit, and Pagati may fire upon users with hits who are camping outside their base.
4: Police may not stand inside the LSPD safezone to fire at criminals outside the safe zone
5: Police may not arrest a suspect another officer has cuffed unless: The cuffing officer gives permission, the cuffing officer has been killed, the suspect has escaped a reasonable distance and has not yet broken their cuffs or had their cuffs picked.
6: Ram other users with a vehicle or use a water canon from the fire engine/SWAT tank unless the have the right to harm the user
7: Spam ANY form of chat or flood chat. Non-English in main chats is also not allowed. This includes /cm, /news, /ask, and /adm. Group chats however ARE allowed to have Non-English, but not spam.
8: Leave the game via /q or /rq to avoid being robbed on death.
Harass other users: 1: Any forms of racism are forbidden!
2: Heavily insulting other users, such as telling them you "will fuck their mom"
3: Repeatedly ask users for their social media (facebook, instagram, snapchat)
4: Ask for their information such as name, location, sexual orientation if they do not feel comfortable sharing it.
5: Ask Event Managers repeatedly to host events, even if you offer a reward.
-Exception: Users are allowed to make light insults at friends, such "Welcome back Fantastic, you nub" as long as no racism or heavy insults such as "Welcome back Fantastic you fucking n*gger" are used.
Cheat/hack/Illegal Third Party Mods: Any form of third party modification which gives an unfair advantage is absolutely forbidden and will be punished with zero chance to rejoin the server! These include but are in no way limited to: Airbreak, aimbot, keybinders, teleports, no-reload, auto-switcher, extrazoom, sniperzoom, speed improvements, S0bi3t, wallhacks, health hacks, auto-aim, weapon spawners, vehicle spawners, parkour mods, insta-enter, insta-heli, map hacks that show icons in events where they have been turned off, remote vehicle jacking, rapid fire, object spawner, invisibility, invincibility, trainers, unlimited sprint, and any other advantage giving mod.
Abuse bugs: Any form of bug abuse, known or unknown to players/staff is not allowed. This includes:
1: C-bug with any weapon
2: Quickslide/ slide bug, skate bug
3: Megajumping on a bicycle when being chased by someone who has a valid reason to harm you
4: Not relogging when you are failing to take damage or your ping is unreasonably high
5: Enter collision detection errors (walls you can walk through)
6: G-bug (warping through objects by pressing g to get into a vehicle UNLESS it is to remove yourself from an invalid location due to an unintentional bug (such as forced through a wall during a car crash)
AFK Abuse:1:Kidnap or drag an AFK user
2: Go AFK while selling hot dogs
3: Go AFK while having a hit
4: Go AFK to avoid being arrested by the SWAT team.
Scamming Users are allowed to scam other users as long as:
Scammer does not have the Lsrcr tag.
Scammer does not scam more than $300,000.
Trade does not involve any donation items. This does not include a donated house.
The victim of the scam has at least 500 score.
Ban Evade: Any form of using an account to log into the server if you have been issued a ban is absolutely forbidden! This includes: Dynamic IPs, VPNs, Cafe Wifi, using someone else's account, using an alt you already made, or making a new alt.
Report hunt: Filing malicious reports by any of the following is not allowed:
1: If you encouraged the player to break a rule solely to report them
2: As revenge for a personal issue with the reported user
3: If it's over a minor rule violation that could have been worked out in game (such as a user taking a hit and accidentally shoots you in the crossfire)
4: Filing a report that does not affect you or the server, such as if user A deathmatches user B, you cannot file a report on user A. It is User Bs decision if they wish to report it or not. However reporting hackers, spammers, and other rules that affect the server as a whole is allowed even if you are not affected.
5: Report users who reported you for "report hunting". Simply mention it in your defense and allow staff to handle it there so as to not clutter the forums with dozens of reports
6: Report users for group related issues
7: Report users for content on discord UNLESS: The user found your discord solely through the official HAN Discord server, contacted you without permission, and did so to spam, insult, harass, or provoke.
8: Filing a report in good faith, meaning you truly believe a rule was broken (such as misunderstanding a rule), even if it wasn't, will not be seen as report hunting. Filing multiple reports daily when most/all are rule breaks that lead to a punishment is also not report hunting.
Miscellaneous: Rules that don't fit anywhere else
1: Lying to staff during the course of an investigation is not allowed
2: Send or share any of the following content:
Malicious files (malware): content including, but not limited to, trojans, ransomware, keyloggers, DDoS, or game cheats.
Executable files: content including, but not limited to, ".EXE" files, scripts, or any other file designed to be run or executed on any system.
Mature content: content including, but not limited to, pornography, realistic gore or violence, nudity, and sexual content.
Copyrighted content: content including, but not limited to, any content that the owner holds the exclusive rights to that you do not have permission to distribute.
3: Players are not allowed to encourage others to break rules
4: Exploiting loopholes within the rules as they are written is forbidden, and can lead to harsher punishments.
5: Disobey orders from a staff member
6: Abuse the /tune function in any way
7: Send any links that are not from ls-rcr.com
8: Tagged members are not to discuss tag votes or attempt to influence votes. Users MAY however talk about a vote between the voter and the votee.
LS-RCR Discord rules:
1: Users may not speak non-english in the HAN server
2: Users may not report what is said on Discord unless it was in the HAN server, or the rule regarding harassment.
3: Ls-rcr will NOT police Discord groups, channels, or DMs that are not from the HAN server.
4: Users are forbidden from using Discord chats to make in game decisions, such as: Claiming a poor attitude when voting because of a previous Discord conversation, file reports based on Discord chats, unless it abides by rule 2, share Discord messages as evidence in a report, post Discord DMs without permission from the other users involved.
5: Block members of Ls-rcr staff on your Discord account.
6: Use Discord DMs to hide information from staff
7: Contact staff to report users UNLESS the report contains: keybind evidence, aimbot evidence, sensitive content not safe for forums, or if you believe a public report will start drama that should be avoided.
LS-RCR Forum Rules:
1: Users may not share graphic images, unsafe links, pirated software, or cheat software.
2: Users are forbidden from posting another users picture, video, name, or location
3: Signatures are not to contain any harassing content, such as screenshots of chat/discord designed to provoke a user, or make a user seem toxic/stupid.
4: May not misuse the forums for any reason.
5: Charge back donations for any reason!
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Last edited by Karu_Tepes on September 6, 2021, 3:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.
5: Assisting in the killing of a user you do not have the right to harm, however melee weapons excluding chainsaw are still allowed.Nice suggestion, this needs to be done ASAP.
Pagati: 1:Camping outside the Pagati base in Blueberry....
same should
apply to hitmen when leaving group base and generally spawn killing hitman (lots of times upon lspd jail release i (hitman) get 4 shooted by cop)
1:Using /q or /rq to evade a cop/hitman who is reasonably close to you(their name tag is visible)(their radar mark is enlarged (that's how BM enterace system works)) and returning within 30 minutes, OR if you leave/return in 30 minutes three or more times.
2: Intentionally committing suicide by any means such as gas pumps or jumping from high buildings
I don't see a reason why this should a rule. Your life, your decision. If you want to suicide you will hurt only yourself.
4: Pressing G or F to enter an unoccupied vehicle to use drugs/injectionsor type commands while avoiding damage via the animation of entering
Big positive for this one.
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2: Entering an interior a single time to use it, such as Kurtiso's house
It would be good if developers could add 'recently entered' system for houses like shops have.
4: Police may not stand inside the LSPD safezone to fire at criminals outside the safe zone
Not needed because criminals can damage cops if cops shoot them
8: Leave the game via /q or /rq to avoid being robbed on death.
I think we already have auto-jail system when you give moneybag and /q. Same system could be applied if you /q and your dead body is still on ground.
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- [Lsrcr]Fantastic
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- Joined: March 14, 2012, 8:21 am
- Location: United Kingdom
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- [Lsrcr]Lost_Soul
- Posts: 2685
- Joined: July 5, 2019, 4:31 pm
- Location: A small shack across from Pagati
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Fantastic wrote:Could you please highlight what exactly you would like to see amended/added?Sure, I'll also give the why
"5: Assisting in the killing of a user you do not have the right to harm, however melee weapons are still allowed."
Added this because I've seen some users using motorcycles to shoot cops while not wanted in order to lower the health of said cop in order to protect a wanted friend, who then fires the final shot so the DMer isn't quized. Also, Faraon, I like that you included chainsaws, however the rule on melee weapons itself excludes it. Still, love the point.
"6: Recklessly heliblade innocent users."
Think we kind of all know why this is here... I've seen this crap from tagged members repeatedly. You'll see 5 criminals on a car with a single white, and they find it perfectly fine to heliblade everyone, white included, because "innocent bystander deserves it" and so on. I've also seen cops and army slice their own men up just to get a criminal. It's become a problem over the last year.
"7: Shooting Pagati members who are NOT actively taking hits."
Since the Pagati update, activity has been higher, but so have things that are not originally to Pagati. Before, Pagati was only hitman, and so killing Pagati in self defense was fine. However, now that airdropping is a thing, it's become a HUGE staple of our job. The main problem though is users who are intentionally interrupting this part. Multiple times I have been delivering the drops or going to get the drops only to have someone fly in by helicopter to shoot me, or chase me around the map on a bike shooting me, despite the fact that I never shot at them, and have no intent to shoot at them. The idea of "self defense" falls very flat when you're shooting someone who hasn't done anything to you. It's more akin to deathmatching. There is really not logical reason for anyone to shoot a Pagati member who is just driving around the countryside looking for a drop, but each time they use the arguement "I have hit" be please remember, Pagati is roleplay group, and we are not solely hitmen. If we aren't taking hits, we shouldn't be slaughtered for fun/profit.
"8: Abuse the /cuff command, or cuff hitmen with the intent to harm them or search/arrest them while you have a hit."
This is another form of abuse that's become far too common. You try to claim a hit on a cop, and they cuff you to shoot your armor then wait until you're uncuffed and instantly 4-shot you before you can get your gun ready. This was not allowed in the rules before, but was removed. I however added that searching hitmen is also abuse, and the main reason is I've seen 4-5 hitmen go after a single cop, and the cop cuffs/arrests the entire team, or you make 7-8 attempts on the same user and no matter how close you come, they just cuff you when they have 5hp left and send you to jail. On top of that, they often mock you in main chat with insults, and it's become a big problem.
"2: Intentionally committing suicide by any means such as gas pumps or jumping from high buildings" Added this because it's getting far out of control. Criminals in Idlewood adore the idea of running up to a cop, robbing them, then running to the gas pump and exploding themselves. It gives the cop no chance of getting the money back, or the score of arresting them. I've also seen criminals who are being chased, and they just casually jump off a bridge to get away from the cop, and often the user mocks their pursuer as well. Players with hits have been doing this as well, but not to the same degree.
"3: Repeatedly entering/exiting interiors to avoid damage/annoy pursuing users
4: Pressing G to enter an unoccupied vehicle to use drugs or type commands while avoiding damage via the animation of entering" These two are HUGE. I've talked with over a dozen players, and not one has said they like this method. I've had many players low on health press g and once the animation starts, you can't hurt them, so they use that time to pretype /sh (id) or or drugs and the WORST offender are lagged out criminals. They run in place for 5 seconds then warp into the car, and then get out with drugs taken and your id in /sh and because of the lag, they heal faster than you can put lead into them. It's so frustrating and so far everyone has agreed it needs to stop.
"3: Earning a "Darwin Award" (unintentional death by your own stupidity) such as standing next to a gas pump as police shoot at you, jumping off a short roof with no health, or staying in a car as it's shot until it explodes." I added exceptions to help make it more clear both to staff and users what is and is NOT a rulebreak. This one is designed to account for the fact sometimes people just do stupid shit. I made the original rule about suiciding to evade chasers, and a few days later noticed that while avoiding a hitman as a cop, I had somehow run to the idlewood gas station. About that moment was when I realized "oh shit gas pump" and the same moment he shot said gas pump, splattering me on the store's front window. It was a moment of stupidity that could happen to anyone, so you need to know the intent. Did the user run at the pump guns blazing, or did the user run next to a pump while looking behind them and just not realize where they we're going?
"3: Standing in the LSPD checkpoint where criminals are released from jail with the intent to search them for drugs. Paroling users to search them will be considered a worse version of this abuse" Think we all know why this got added. Several more selfish cops have taken to standing at release points to search. Sometimes a cop will arrest you, sending you to the LSPD jail, then rush over and /parole or simply wait for you to release, then cuff and search you to send you to alca. It gains them extra score, and is designed to enrage the player who suffered the search. I'm sure you remember a certain report where nothing got done about a user who did this to me, and several staff also agreed that it was a form of score boosting, so I put it here so it's crystal clear to everyone
3: Entering group bases, safe zones, private houses, or camping spawn locations without reason with the intent to search, rob, rape or commit a hostile action. Police may however camp the Black Market exit, and Pagati may fire upon users with hits who are camping outside their base. There's been a recent thing cops stand right by group spawnpoint are public (like's Blackout's if the gate was open) or going into houses where people plan to AFK or hang out with friends just to search them. They claim it's because they 'suspect the user has drugs' but we all know it's done to annoy players. Likewise players are standing right outside the LSPD safe zone hoping to catch a cop on foot before they can get to a store to get a wallet. Often this results in the criminal 4-shotting the cop as well, which again, just pisses people off.
"5: Police may not arrest a suspect another officer has cuffed unless: The cuffing officer gives permission, the cuffing officer has been killed, the suspect has escaped a reasonable distance and has not yet broken their cuffs or had their cuffs picked." Stealing has become a problem recently, and it's been kind of wishy-washy on what constitutes stealing.Some admins say if it's done 3 or more times, some say it's situational, so I made this a rule so it's perfectly clear what stealing is.
"8: Leave the game via /q or /rq to avoid being robbed on death." Again, a more recent form of abuse where some staff say once is enough to be a rule break, others say constantly doing it, so I simply made it clear. Note however that this is for /q use ONLY! Player's who crash on death (timeout) will not be held liable as that's a game problem, not a choice on the half of the player.
"3: Repeatedly ask users for their social media (facebook, instagram, snapchat)"
"4: Ask for their information such as name, location, sexual orientation if they do not feel comfortable sharing it." Self explanatory
"5: Ask Event Managers repeatedly to host events, even if you offer a reward." Already a 'rule' but it's not in the official list, added it so players can find it and point it out.
"1: C-bug with any weapon" Made this point a few times, players ARE punished for it, but it's not officially in the list. Added it because it needs to be clearly written to punish on it.
"2: Quickslide/ slide bug, skate bug" Oddly, this isn't in the rules, and I've seen some players just quickly sliding and shooting a deagle at me, and right now that's allowed. Really shouldn't me as it's the same as running with a deagle, something you can't do.
"4: Not relogging when you are failing to take damage or your ping is unreasonably high" Already a rule, but it's not in the official list, so it needs to be in there.
"Report hunt: Filing malicious reports by any of the following is not allowed:
1: If you encouraged the player to break a rule solely to report them
2: As revenge for a personal issue with the reported user
3: If it's over a minor rule violation that could have been worked out in game (such as a user taking a hit and accidentally shoots you in the crossfire)
4: Filing a report that does not affect you or the server, such as if user A deathmatches user B, you cannot file a report on user A. It is User Bs decision if they wish to report it or not. However reporting hackers, spammers, and other rules that affect the server as a whole is allowed even if you are not affected.
5: Report users who reported you for "report hunting". Simply mention it in your defense and allow staff to handle it there so as to not clutter the forums with dozens of reports
6: Report users for group related issues
7: Report users for content on discord UNLESS: The user found your discord solely through the official HAN Discord server, contacted you without permission, and did so to spam, insult, harass, or provoke."
This entire section is because while "report hunting" is against the rules, but many players seem to not fully grasp what report hunting truly is.
Added: 8: Filing a report in good faith, meaning you truly believe a rule was broken (such as misunderstanding a rule), even if it wasn't, will not be seen as report hunting. Filing multiple reports daily when most/all are rule breaks that lead to a punishment is also not report hunting.
"8: Tagged members are not to discuss tag votes or attempt to influence votes. Users MAY however talk about a vote between the voter and the votee." I have had a few users, who I will not out here, who have asked me about users before they make a tag vote back when I had the tag. I've also seen some users who just copy/paste another users vote and just change the wording. Might also want to simply make tag votes invisible, as it seems like some users just all hit a person with the same vote, clearly influenced by a popular user's vote.
"LS-RCR Discord rules:
1: Users may not speak non-english in the HAN server
2: Users may not report what is said on Discord unless it was in the HAN server, or the rule regarding harassment.
3: Ls-rcr will NOT police Discord groups, channels, or DMs that are not from the HAN server.
4: Users are forbidden from using Discord chats to make in game decisions, such as: Claiming a poor attitude when voting because of a previous Discord conversation, file reports based on Discord chats, unless it abides by rule 2, share Discord messages as evidence in a report, post Discord DMs without permission from the other users involved.
5: Block members of Ls-rcr staff on your Discord account.
6: Use Discord DMs to hide information from staff
7: Contact staff to report users UNLESS the report contains: keybind evidence, aimbot evidence, sensitive content not safe for forums, or if you believe a public report will start drama that should be avoided."
We've never really had rules on what is/isnt allowed on Discord or using Discord, so I made a few rules on it so everyone knows.
"3: Forum signatures are not to contain any of the content in rule 1" This should have been "with harassing content" instead of rule 1, but I've seen quite a few users adding discord and in-game chat screenshots which are things someone said, taken out of context, to make another user seem toxic, or to make fun of a user for something. It falls under no harassment/no provoking content.
"5: Charge back donations for any reason!" Not sure why this isn't a rule yet, but if you make a donation, and then charge it back through paypal, it hits CXdur with a fraud case. Too many can even lock his Paypal account. This happened to HausMaster on 2B2T not long ago, and I'd like to see it not happen to CXdur because it's a real pain in the ass.
Any questions, suggestion of adding rules, or suggestions of removing/clarifying a rule are encouraged!
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- [Lsrcr]Lost_Soul
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Faraon78910 wrote:5: amended to include the chainsaw exception5: Assisting in the killing of a user you do not have the right to harm, however melee weapons excluding chainsaw are still allowed.Nice suggestion, this needs to be done ASAP.
Pagati: 1:Camping outside the Pagati base in Blueberry....
same should
apply to hitmen when leaving group base and generally spawn killing hitman (lots of times upon lspd jail release i (hitman) get 4 shooted by cop)
1:Using /q or /rq to evade a cop/hitman who is reasonably close to you(their name tag is visible)(their radar mark is enlarged (that's how BM enterace system works)) and returning within 30 minutes, OR if you leave/return in 30 minutes three or more times.
2: Intentionally committing suicide by any means such as gas pumps or jumping from high buildings
I don't see a reason why this should a rule. Your life, your decision. If you want to suicide you will hurt only yourself.
4: Pressing G or F to enter an unoccupied vehicle to use drugs/injectionsor type commands while avoiding damage via the animation of entering
Big positive for this one.
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2: Entering an interior a single time to use it, such as Kurtiso's house
It would be good if developers could add 'recently entered' system for houses like shops have.
4: Police may not stand inside the LSPD safezone to fire at criminals outside the safe zone
Not needed because criminals can damage cops if cops shoot them
8: Leave the game via /q or /rq to avoid being robbed on death.
I think we already have auto-jail system when you give moneybag and /q. Same system could be applied if you /q and your dead body is still on ground.
"Pagati: 1:Camping outside the Pagati base in Blueberry....
same should
apply to hitmen when leaving group base and generally spawn killing hitman (lots of times upon lspd jail release i (hitman) get 4 shooted by cop) "
Agreed, I'll think of how to word it and add it in.
"2: Intentionally committing suicide by any means such as gas pumps or jumping from high buildings
I don't see a reason why this should a rule. Your life, your decision. If you want to suicide you will hurt only yourself. "
It's being done to avoid jail time, hits, and so on. I know it SEEMS like you're only harming yourself, but when a cop drives all the way to Las Venturas to arrest you, and you just suddenly use a gas pump to suicide, they have wasted a good ten minutes for nothing. There is a reason you can't use /kill when wanted or have a hit, and you shouldn't use the environment to do it either.
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