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Post by Thursday » July 29, 2022, 5:24 am
Samp is already dead, staff should make punishment not too harsher, permanent ban is not accurate at this current status of samp. Global unban them all , let's see how it is going since the server need players!
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Post by AK33L » July 31, 2022, 9:17 am
Dont forget to add more staff to the team

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Post by Razor » July 31, 2022, 9:55 am
Unban hero dark so he stop evading
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Post by Abstract » August 1, 2022, 9:13 am
If a global unban were to happen, who do you think would be the ones to play? The ones who are currently always posting unban applications and ban evading or the better players who have moved on to other better games?

Having more people doesn't necessarily mean you'll have more active players who are fun to play with, but it guarantees more rulebreakers and a lot of you complaining about certain players again... A lot of you see a global unban as a higher playercount, the rest of us see it as more complaints and rulebreaks that eventually is going to have all those who were unbanned, banned again.

Do you think @monster@ will follow the rules after he had already been given a generous amount of chances? What about Hero_Dark, who constantly cheated and ban evaded after he was given multiple chances to improve his behavior around here? And what about Mrs_Rupeewoman, who literally caused so much havoc to the point we couldn't keep up with it and had to issue a range ban? (which a lot of people begged for)

Do you guys think about that or do you just see it as "no player count, need unban everyone so we have 5 more active rulebreaking players"?

The last time a global unban happened, a lot of the players who were unbanned were actually decent people who ended up being really good members of the community... not someone who doesn't care to follow the rules because they will just create a new account when they get banned.

Also, stop replying with just +1, it doesn't add any useful information or a valuable opinion to the suggestion.

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Post by Sinwar » August 1, 2022, 9:35 am
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If a global unban were to happen, who do you think would be the ones to play? The ones who are currently always posting unban applications and ban evading or the better players who have moved on to other better games?

Having more people doesn't necessarily mean you'll have more active players who are fun to play with, but it guarantees more rulebreakers and a lot of you complaining about certain players again... A lot of you see a global unban as a higher playercount, the rest of us see it as more complaints and rulebreaks that eventually is going to have all those who were unbanned, banned again.

Do you think @monster@ will follow the rules after he had already been given a generous amount of chances? What about Hero_Dark, who constantly cheated and ban evaded after he was given multiple chances to improve his behavior around here? And what about Mrs_Rupeewoman, who literally caused so much havoc to the point we couldn't keep up with it and had to issue a range ban? (which a lot of people begged for)

Do you guys think about that or do you just see it as "no player count, need unban everyone so we have 5 more active rulebreaking players"?

The last time a global unban happened, a lot of the players who were unbanned were actually decent people who ended up being really good members of the community... not someone who doesn't care to follow the rules because they will just create a new account when they get banned.
Of course we are not here for Monster or the players who were given a lot of chances, But we here for people who didn't take the chance yet and people who got banned for aimbot ( which i see it's too hard punishment because it's a game at the end ), I'm not talking about ALL, But the experienced players who were really useful for the server and just make a mistake, Yes they must be punished, But permanently ban with no chance it's too hard.
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Post by Grand » August 1, 2022, 11:19 am
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We are not talking about such people (like hero_dark or monster), we are talking about real (og) old players who were banned for a long time ago (maybe 2-4 years or more) and didn't cause a lot of havoc to the server in the last recent few years, they will definitely be a benefit to the server in many points, such as, activity, donations for making the server alive ... etc., I also believe that they deserve a chance since they were banned for a long period which mostly made them mature, realize their mistake and of course resulting in being very careful to exploit this chance of getting unbanned to play again, therefore, we should include the players that we are completely sure about, the players who will literally not ruin it.

Another possible solution could be some minor changes to the banning policy, for example, reducing the ban period instead of being too restrictive (i.e. permanent ban) and increasing the chance of getting unbanned for players who are banned since years for whatever reason or whatnot, also you admins do not need to be that lazy, you are an admin for a reason, you have to catch rulebreakers and cheaters, not to complain about wasting your time, this is your job and you agreed to do it with zero doubt.

Another point to clear out is that SAMP isn't dying as you all claim, other SAMP servers have numerous number of players, but they do not have such restrictive policy, although they catch aimbots and keybinders, they don't just issue a permanent ban, instead, they give them the chance/time to realize and think about their mistake and fully regret it, afterwards when the banned player doesn't cause troubles (i.e. ban evading) and admins are assured, they unban them, because if they were to permanently ban them, their server would be empty causing a low playerbase count and many other influences.


Lastly, I want you to think about it in terms of logic and benefit, I also believe that players who just randomly reply with +1, don't have words to say since we already nailed it, but I recommend specifying at least a short reason when replying.
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Post by Koko » August 1, 2022, 1:05 pm
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If a global unban were to happen, who do you think would be the ones to play? The ones who are currently always posting unban applications and ban evading or the better players who have moved on to other better games?

Having more people doesn't necessarily mean you'll have more active players who are fun to play with, but it guarantees more rulebreakers and a lot of you complaining about certain players again... A lot of you see a global unban as a higher playercount, the rest of us see it as more complaints and rulebreaks that eventually is going to have all those who were unbanned, banned again.

Do you think @monster@ will follow the rules after he had already been given a generous amount of chances? What about Hero_Dark, who constantly cheated and ban evaded after he was given multiple chances to improve his behavior around here? And what about Mrs_Rupeewoman, who literally caused so much havoc to the point we couldn't keep up with it and had to issue a range ban? (which a lot of people begged for)

Do you guys think about that or do you just see it as "no player count, need unban everyone so we have 5 more active rulebreaking players"?

The last time a global unban happened, a lot of the players who were unbanned were actually decent people who ended up being really good members of the community... not someone who doesn't care to follow the rules because they will just create a new account when they get banned.

Also, stop replying with just +1, it doesn't add any useful information or a valuable opinion to the suggestion.

It's better to see some improvements in server activity by giving banned players chances to play again. Ik you(admins) tried to increase server activity with making more events and updates but we all saw that doesn't help us.

about rulebreakers... Please don't be pessimistic, if something happen wrong we have your lazy ass to deal with it.

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Post by Hamoo » August 1, 2022, 1:31 pm
We are not saying that you have to unban everyone, people who ban evaded many times shouldnt be unbanned only the players that were banned for like 2-4 years even if it was for aimbot, I dont think they gonna get banned for years and then come and cheat again. even if they cheated we got the admins who can deal with it.
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Post by Cyanide » August 1, 2022, 3:36 pm
Abstract wrote:
If a global unban were to happen, who do you think would be the ones to play? The ones who are currently always posting unban applications and ban evading or the better players who have moved on to other better games?

Having more people doesn't necessarily mean you'll have more active players who are fun to play with, but it guarantees more rulebreakers and a lot of you complaining about certain players again... A lot of you see a global unban as a higher playercount, the rest of us see it as more complaints and rulebreaks that eventually is going to have all those who were unbanned, banned again.

Do you think @monster@ will follow the rules after he had already been given a generous amount of chances? What about Hero_Dark, who constantly cheated and ban evaded after he was given multiple chances to improve his behavior around here? And what about Mrs_Rupeewoman, who literally caused so much havoc to the point we couldn't keep up with it and had to issue a range ban? (which a lot of people begged for)

Do you guys think about that or do you just see it as "no player count, need unban everyone so we have 5 more active rulebreaking players"?

The last time a global unban happened, a lot of the players who were unbanned were actually decent people who ended up being really good members of the community... not someone who doesn't care to follow the rules because they will just create a new account when they get banned.

Also, stop replying with just +1, it doesn't add any useful information or a valuable opinion to the suggestion.
we don't want a global unban some of the ppl said u can do a special unban because there's still some ppl who didn't grow up and will keep cheating and make the server unplayable but there's lots and lots of ppl who started to play other games and watching their friends playing samp but they cannot have fun with them sadly because they got banned if i were to say it's better to give the ppl who really were acting good and not ban evading etc etc. another chance, i mean we are gonna live once ofc we will try new and some dumb things and ppl lean from it some ppl don't so special unban and admins can vote weither or not ppl can be unbanned.

Edit: and you guys are admins some ppl ofc will make some mistakes again and it's your job to do that, don't be like *banning everyone who does little things so we don't need to care anymore and just go in and play*
because you are making it to easy you just go in to the unban applications and saying you will remain banned because you cheated once i have seen that, unban applications are not for false bans only we all know that so at least change it from a permanently ban to a long period of time like a year or so
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Post by Meow » August 1, 2022, 4:33 pm
I'll just stop donating until we'll see any ASA+ responding to this post with his statement. If staff team doesn't care about this community then why should we care
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