New Hide Command for PAGATI Members

[Karu_Tepes]

Your argument about Army and SWAT having special perks is invalid, you are requesting a hide command to take down players with hit contracts while comparing Army and SWAT to Pagati, even though neither Army nor SWAT can use their commands, items or perks against Hitmen or Pagati, you claim you need the hide command to counter the Army and SWAT, which is an invalid and weak excuse, as we can NOT use our commands/items/perks against Hitmen anyway. If this command somehow gets implemented for Pagati, you would be the one with the advantage.

While I'm not the one who made the suggestion, the suggestion if for people with hits only, not swat/army. That's another topic being worked out.

I suggest adding hide command for players holding hit contracts. Maybe /contracthide so I actually stand equal chance versus hidden pagati hitmen. Thank you very much.

Very nice suggestion by the way.

Given how much you already abuse your hits, I'm tempted to say no. But I have suggested in the past that people be able to bribe Pagati to remove their hits, so I'm still up for that.

Yes, your faction will simply have a strategic unrighteous way to execute hit contracts because instead of getting good at the game to attempt to claim hit contracts in a fair way, you would rather want unjust gameplay when playing your faction. Well done, rookie. Nice way of thinking. I suggest that you get good at the game before you start throwing unrealistic and unjust ideas to comfort your gameplay.

Again, you blatantly abuse your hits, and your opinion isn't taken for much here. But it's not about making it unfair, it's about balance. Main reason Artifact made this suggestion is due to the amount of LSPD players who have been cuff abusing Pagati and hitmen to shoot at them. It's been an ongoing issue, and it needs to be balanced out.

Ultimately, this suggestion is NOT about Swat and Army. That's an entirely different thing. What I'm saying is Pagati needs a rework as a whole. This is ONE part of that, and has to do solely with hits, not swat and army. You all need to chill the hell out and stop getting your panties twisted over it. But given few of you speak English as a first language, I'll forgive you for not understanding what my opinion is.

[tamika]

Given how much of a crying and clueless baby you are in the community, where you constantly complain about no violations and host incredibly dumb reports, I assumed that you would at least understand my sarcasm.

Everyone is allowed to express their opinions in the suggestions thread. Either mine or anyone elses will be equally valued so the fact that you choose your ridiculous way of typing your replies in attempt to demean my reputation is your own problem.

I only decided to post my opinion on this because what you are typing and suggesting again claiming how your brown faction "has nothing but only few features" and how "we"ll take anything" is funny to me and I needed to say that implementing your lame desires to make your gameplay unjust toward other players is very pathetic.

The point is, if you are bad at the game, learn the game. Don't bend the rules and features in your unrighteous way. It is meant to be equal for everyone.

[Karu_Tepes]

Given how much of a crying and clueless baby you are in the community, where you constantly complain about no violations and host incredibly dumb reports, I assumed that you would at least understand my sarcasm.

Everyone is allowed to express their opinions in the suggestions thread. Either mine or anyone elses will be equally valued so the fact that you choose your ridiculous way of typing your replies in attempt to demean my reputation is your own problem.

I only decided to post my opinion on this because what you are typing and suggesting again claiming how your brown faction "has nothing but only few features" and how "we"ll take anything" is funny to me and I needed to say that implementing your lame desires to make your gameplay unjust toward other players is very pathetic.

The point is, if you are bad at the game, learn the game. Don't bend the rules and features in your unrighteous way. It is meant to be equal for everyone.

"Don't bend the rules" is rich coming from you. You abused the Pagati wanted level removal system multiple times, abused the LSA checkpoint, and follow me around JUST long enough to not get reported. You bend more rules for your own bullshit than anyone else, and have been going after Pagati ever since we demoted you for repeated bug abuse. I value most everyone's opinion, but yours comes from a place of hate and is not welcome on this thread.

You want to talk about bending rules? You want to have a go? Here's you bending the rules by chasing me without cause for just under three minutes. Had you done it any longer, it'd be reportable. This is video of you bending rules. You're projecting your own poor behavior on me.

[tamika]

There you go over and over repeating yourself with your shameful lying claims in attempt to demean my reputation lol.

See how much of a crying baby you are where you have just proven it with this video of yours.

You say I follow you lol. I can openly say that you are one of the most annoying and weird users I encountered since I play this online for 15 years. I've seen all kinds since 2010 but you... I don't know and most importantly it is none of my business how old are you and what your mentality is but what I gathered from you since the day I returned playing here is disturbing and worrying lol.

I will enlighten you once again on this claim of yours that I followed you lol. This goes under the section hosting dumb reports. Like, you would probably go as far as hosting a report on someone for following you despite being the rule that shouldn't even exist because players shouldn't be restricted to drive after anyone or play they way because this is GTA, not Sims. How do you even prove that you are following someone? You can just drive in someone's direction and you assume they follow you? You are clearly dumb and delusional because that's exactly what you assumed I did in that video you posted which is false accusation because I was followed by SWAT members from Los Santos and by arriving to Las Venturas I noticed you were wanted so I planned to led them onto you. You even typed in main chat to not follow you even though I wasn't even in your vicinity.

So basically you are so delusional that you seek whatever you can to report anyone you dislike lol. That is a reality and that is very funny to me even though it shouldn't be. Do you know why? Because you are wasting people's time with your outrageous overreacting. When I look at you ingame, you don't even look to me like you are aware that you play GTA. Maybe like some other chill game on facebook or something I'd say.

Hopefully we can all be friends in server one day :DDD

[Abstract]

First off, please stay on topic of the suggestion.

Secondly, a reminder that Pagati is an official faction, they will get features that official groups will not. As pointed out, official groups are owned by players and the players who own it can control it as they see fit. Pagati is owned by the server and is monitored like SWAT and Army are, players are selected to lead it but they still answer to server management (note: management only gets involved when absolutely necessary).

Currently, there are not many features differentiating a Pagati hitman and a regular hitman - so there is also no real motivation to join Pagati unless you are interested in climbing the ranks to assist in leadership. Obviously there are vehicles, weapons, etc, but the same can be found in many groups.

This feature could add something extra to Pagati hitmen that would make gameplay between regular hitmen and Pagati hitmen different.

Think about it objectively and not "oh its unfair, why should pagati get such benefits". Otherwise the same can be said for SWAT and Army, "why do swat and army get special features while regular police dont".

At the end of the day, this is a suggestion for everyone to share their opinions, it is not guaranteed to be accepted or denied so there is no need for arguments.

Something to think about.

I will be monitoring this suggestion, and any off-topic post (personal arguments, things unrelated to the suggestion, etc), will be deleted, so save some time and just focus on the topic.

Cheers.

[Hayzen]

Pagati has some good features, like the drug factory and the ability to remove your wanted level, which can be fun and useful. However, I still don’t like the idea of a hidden command. It could be easily abused by members, making the game less fair. The Pagati staff are asking for many new things to be added, which would make them very powerful. They already have their own special abilities, so adding more might make them too strong. It’s important to think carefully about these requests to keep things balanced and fair. t’s important to remember that Pagati should not be compared to SWAT or the army because SWAT and the army are law enforcement organizations while Pagati has a different role and purpose. Keeping this distinction in mind is important when considering their requests.

If this gets implemented, Lsrcr should honestly refund everyone who’s paid for a group, cause it completely kills the point of owning one. Pagati’s getting all the perks, making it pointless for anyone to join or run a group. They’ve got unlimited weapons and drugs, which gives them a huge edge over regular groups. Meanwhile, regular group owners pay for these features but still struggle to get weapons and drugs, one cophunt with 3 people and their stock is gone in an hour

Pagati should’ve never been a criminal faction. I’d have been cool with their ideas if it was just for RP, but this change isn’t needed. Comparing them to Swat or the Army doesn’t even make sense, cause those factions are totally different, regular players can’t play as them, but anyone can be a hitman or criminal outside of Pagati

I totally agree with kawish

[Bombshell]

Can I suggest a different idea?

Like what if we added masks in the blackmarket, Pagati members may purchase a mask, use /pgmask command so they can be hidden for some mins

[69?]

Can I suggest a different idea?

Like what if we added masks in the blackmarket, Pagati members may purchase a mask, use /pgmask command so they can be hidden for some mins

+1

[artifact]

Any updates for this suggestion?

[Astrl]

This has been implemented as /underground. Criminals often "go to ground" when they are hiding from the law.

Few things to note:
1. It's individual, rather than like the whole faction for SWAT.
2. Each individual player in Pagati would need to use /underground to hide.
3. There is a cooldown for when you can use it again.