Pjoker/Knavery - Command abuse

[Crimson]

Your name: [Lsrcr]Crimson
Their name: [Lsrcr]Pjoker - [Lsrcr]Knavery
Reason: Command abuse
Proof: https://youtu.be/8NFtBpIuA-8
Anything else: ' Utilizing the /cuff command as a weapon against an unwanted or innocent hitman. This rule does not restrict the use of /cuff to conduct one (1) search or /rp within a reasonable period of time. The unwanted or innocent hitman must be given reasonable opportunity to retreat after being uncuffed. '

[69?]

I would like to clarify that I didn't mean to abuse the command. There was a reason for the /cuff at that moment to check the situation, and it wasn't used to harm him or restrict his gameplay unfairly. I respect the server rules regarding innocent hitmen, and I will make sure to give more time to retreat in the future if there was any misunderstanding.

[69?]

Hey
I would like to clarify the whole situation from my perspective because the video/report doesn't show the full context of what happened.

First of all, regarding the rule itself:
The rule explicitly states that using /cuff is not restricted if it is used to conduct one (1) search or for RP purposes within a reasonable period of time. This is exactly what I was trying to do. As a SWAT MEMBER, it is my duty to check suspicious activities, and innocent hitmen are not completely invisible or immune to being checked or roleplayed with.

Secondly, about the "Weapon" and "Abuse" accusation:
I did not use the command as a weapon to freeze him so I can kill him or harm him unfairly. My intentions were strictly related to normal gameplay procedures. If the player felt it took a bit longer, it was only due to the natural delay of typing commands or assessing the situation at that exact moment, not intentional abuse.

Thirdly, regarding the opportunity to retreat:
I always respect the rules and give players enough space to walk away. In this specific scenario, everything happened so fast, and there was no intention from my side to trap him or abuse my powers.

I have been part of this community for a long time, and I know the boundaries of my commands. I believe this report is just a misunderstanding of a fast-paced situation. I ask the admins to look at the context and the intention behind the action, not just a cut video.

Thank you for your time and fair judgment.

[Crimson]

You both are tagged members and representatives of the community, so you should know the rules better than anyone else. You aren’t newbies who can claim they didn’t know about this. People look up to you and expect you to set an example, which makes it even more important to follow and understand the rules properly. If regular members are expected to know and respect them, then that expectation should apply even more to those representing the community. Although I have a full clip, I won't upload it since it's clear abuse. Reports like these have happened before, and you guys should be aware of it.

[Knavery]

Hey Crimson, to be honest we're just doing our job as a swat member, as you came in swat base and started to shoot us first and then joker is trying to search you because he think you have drugs in your pocket. that's why you are being cuffed because were searching you to make sure if you have a drugs or not but you only cuffed once right? And you are being searched. After that you were uncuff and trying to ran while switching weapons and we expect that you've trying to shoot us back since we first shoot you and you keep running while switching weapons. However, we are just trying to protect our selves to you since we got a hit.Hence i didnt see any kind of command abuse base on the clip that you provided. As a result you've been choosing to report us just to make you happy and you think we get a harsh outcome for tag removal or something else? To be honest we didnt expect the happening and its not intentional actually. If you really think that situation is intentional then i just want to say sorry to you man.im just telling the truth.

[69?]

You both are tagged members and representatives of the community, so you should know the rules better than anyone else. You aren’t newbies who can claim they didn’t know about this. People look up to you and expect you to set an example, which makes it even more important to follow and understand the rules properly. If regular members are expected to know and respect them, then that expectation should apply even more to those representing the community. Although I have a full clip, I won't upload it since it's clear abuse. Reports like these have happened before, and you guys should be aware of it.

As a tagged member, I fully understand my responsibility to set a good example and respect the server rules.

To clarify the actual context: I was the one who had an active "Hit" on me, and this player was trying to kill me to execute it. As a Swat member, it is entirely within my right and duty to defend my life.

Using /cuff and /search during the attack was a tactical move to neutralize the immediate threat to my life, check if the attacker was carrying illegal items like drugs, and gain control of the situation. Once the search came back clean, the situation was handled.

This was a legitimate gameplay interaction a Swat member defending themselves against a hit attempt not a "command abuse" to disrupt anyone. I welcome the admin team to review the case.

[Crimson]

Looks like you still don't get it? take another look: Utilizing the /cuff command as a weapon against an unwanted or innocent hitman. This rule does not restrict the use of /cuff to conduct one (1) search or /rp within a reasonable period of time. The unwanted or innocent hitman must be given reasonable opportunity to retreat after being uncuffed.

I wasn't given a reasonable chance to retreat after being uncuffed. You opened fire the instant I was released.

As for PJoker, I would recommend crafting your own defense. Claiming you were the only one who was hit is clearly a lie.

[69?]

Let's look at the rule carefully. It says against an unwanted or innocent hitman. But you were not innocent or unwanted. You came into our base and started shooting to do a hit. When a hitman attacks a SWAT member inside the base, they are no longer an innocent player.

You claim that I shot you immediately without giving you a chance to leave. If this is true, please upload the 'full clip' you talked about. The video will show the truth and the whole situation.

I have explained everything clearly. I will not reply anymore and I will wait for the Admin's final decision.

[Crimson]

I don't really understand why you keep asking for the full clip because the current clip already provides enough evidence of the rule break, but the full clip will be uploaded if staff demands it. Therefore, I won't be replying anymore because I tried explaining, but it seems you are not willing to understand.

[69?]

A short video doesn't show the full context of what happened. If your clip shows the truth, you shouldn't hesitate to upload it now. However, I am glad we both agree to stop replying and let the Admin team check the facts and logs. Thank you.