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Post by Trom » November 26, 2011, 8:45 pm
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Post by Gangsta19 » November 26, 2011, 8:50 pm
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'Miracles' can be explained through science.

So can science explain tumors magically disappearing?
Simple,they don't ''magically disappear" but they are healed buy our bodies

Without science you wouldn't be able to survive as the modern human,
you wouldn't have no cures for the diseases you wold have NoThing.

What are you saying? It's because of advanced science that the world is heading towards destruction. We can survive without science. We can live in the forest. We're just being greedy for a better life. Besides, most diseases nowadays came from the polluted state of earth.

No,the world is heading towards destruction because the human,science doesn't fire nuclear weapons,human do.Science did not create them,human did.Tell me in which other way is science destroying us?
LMFAO!Do you really think that every modern human could survive in the forest just like that?Dude since the beginning of the human,people tried to make their life easier,there comes science to play,with science we have all the technology we need,most of the cures for the diseases and more.
Think about it which life would have been better:
As a wild human living in the forest,fighting to survive everyday
or,
As a modern human with a warm home,enjoying your life.


If God loves us,why does he send us to Hell?

We are give the freedom of choice. Either to serve Him, or the devil. You cannot serve both God and money.

When god gave us the freedom he knew that we would do evil thing too,so he is also responsible for them,so why would he send us to hell when he is responsible for our sins?

Why does he have prove our faith in Him aint He all knowing?

He doesn't 'prove' our faith. He tests it. Sure, He knew the answer, but we don't. Sometimes we think that our faith in Him is strong enough. He makes us realize if we can still have faith in Him even through hard times, not only the good ones.

Yea that's a syntax error from me,i meant test,and why would he put on in bad situations,i thought he loved us.

Why does he let us suffer (take Africa for example),why does he let people to kill each other,why does He let people follow ''Satan''?

Like I said, because we are given the freedom of choice. Or do you want to become a puppet that is controlled by somebody? He doesn't want forced worship. He wants us to accept Him on our own.
look at the 3rd response
If God created human kind in His image then how can you explain the Aliens,in which image he created them?

In which image did God create ants, elephants and lions? Does He need an image for them?

idk so tells us the religion,that God created us in His image.

If Adam and Eve were real,how can you explain that humanity has 3 races?

Ever heard of the Tower of Babel? In the early times, humans wanted to get close to God so they tried to make a tower so high that it can reach the clouds in the sky. But God doesn't want that so He altered everyone's language so that they cannot understand each other. So the construction of the tower was canceled. Humanity does not have just 3 races. And, those races could have come from one race. Since people were scattered across the world (due to continents moving), they have evolved to survive in the climate/environment of their habitat. (e.g Africans have evolved black skin because white skin is more prone to skin cancer and can bear the amount of UV light, and curly hair because it can prevent too much exposure of your body to UV light.)

i thought religion was not supporting the evolution.

It goes like this:
Energy of the Universe-Big Bang-Evolution-Living species.

When you say Big Bang, it means that it's a combustion. When you say combustion, it means something explodes and fire spreads and burning stuff here and there. No organism can live through that. All that'll be left are inanimate objects floating to the space as debris. Can an explosion form an atmosphere? If so, why only on Earth?
Simple because the earth is not the only one containing living species.

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Post by killdahobo99 » November 26, 2011, 11:56 pm
Cheese wrote:
Gangsta19 wrote:
'Miracles' can be explained through science.

So can science explain tumors magically disappearing?

Tumors don't magically disappear , theres many reasons for why something like that happens/happened.


Without science you wouldn't be able to survive as the modern human,
you wouldn't have no cures for the diseases you wold have NoThing.

What are you saying? It's because of advanced science that the world is heading towards destruction. We can survive without science. We can live in the forest. We're just being greedy for a better life. Besides, most diseases nowadays came from the polluted state of earth.

Lolwutt.....Without modern science we would still be dieing from things like the "black death" (Plague). Yes we can live in the forest, but we cannot survive without science. Humans even 500 years ago had early doctors who used the knowledge they have to save lives. Yeah, a lot of problems are being caused from pollution but that has nothing to do with science. People asked for easier ways to do things, engineers came up with them and now the world complains.

If God loves us,why does he send us to Hell?

We are give the freedom of choice. Either to serve Him, or the devil. You cannot serve both God and money.

If god is able to prevent evil then why is there evil/hell? and if god isn't able to prevent evil then how is he god? Why has god made us in his own image to serve him but gives us the free will to go against his word? Why put us on this world if it's run by devil? It's as if god is providing the devil soldiers

Why does he have prove our faith in Him aint He all knowing?

He doesn't 'prove' our faith. He tests it. Sure, He knew the answer, but we don't. Sometimes we think that our faith in Him is strong enough. He makes us realize if we can still have faith in Him even through hard times, not only the good ones.

He's going to test the faith of over 7 billion people in this world and check off the ones who are naughty or nice?

Why does he let us suffer (take Africa for example),why does he let people to kill each other,why does He let people follow ''Satan''?

Like I said, because we are given the freedom of choice. Or do you want to become a puppet that is controlled by somebody? He doesn't want forced worship. He wants us to accept Him on our own.

No one wants to be a puppet controlled by a master but neither does anyone wanna die when they feel its not there time to go and being the "all knowing" he should know that.


If God created human kind in His image then how can you explain the Aliens,in which image he created them?

In which image did God create ants, elephants and lions? Does He need an image for them?

Why are Dinosaurs not mentioned in the bible? Humans were clearly not the first species on this planet and that's a fact.

If Adam and Eve were real,how can you explain that humanity has 3 races?

Ever heard of the Tower of Babel? In the early times, humans wanted to get close to God so they tried to make a tower so high that it can reach the clouds in the sky. But God doesn't want that so He altered everyone's language so that they cannot understand each other. So the construction of the tower was canceled. Humanity does not have just 3 races. And, those races could have come from one race. Since people were scattered across the world (due to continents moving), they have evolved to survive in the climate/environment of their habitat. (e.g Africans have evolved black skin because white skin is more prone to skin cancer and can bear the amount of UV light, and curly hair because it can prevent too much exposure of your body to UV light.)

If you had left out that "Tower" part of your explanation it would be more believable. It is believed that all humans came from one source which I also believe. Due to migration and having to adapt to new climates the body adapted. Pangaea broke apart causing different climates on different continents and due to having to adapt different races formed.

It goes like this:
Energy of the Universe-Big Bang-Evolution-Living species.

When you say Big Bang, it means that it's a combustion. When you say combustion, it means something explodes and fire spreads and burning stuff here and there. No organism can live through that. All that'll be left are inanimate objects floating to the space as debris. Can an explosion form an atmosphere? If so, why only on Earth?

Explosions don't need oxygen to occur, look at supernovas. During the big bang theory there would be no organisms considering its believed the big bang is what caused everything. Chemical processes is what allows anything to work, look at child birth, it's due to chemical processes occurring that allows that to happen
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Post by Cheese » November 27, 2011, 6:49 am
Gangsta19 wrote:
Cheese wrote:
Gangsta19 wrote:
'Miracles' can be explained through science.

So can science explain tumors magically disappearing?
Simple,they don't ''magically disappear" but they are healed buy our bodies

So tell me how can our bodies do that? If that was normal, then all tumors are safe, right?

Without science you wouldn't be able to survive as the modern human,
you wouldn't have no cures for the diseases you wold have NoThing.

What are you saying? It's because of advanced science that the world is heading towards destruction. We can survive without science. We can live in the forest. We're just being greedy for a better life. Besides, most diseases nowadays came from the polluted state of earth.

No,the world is heading towards destruction because the human,science doesn't fire nuclear weapons,human do.Science did not create them,human did.Tell me in which other way is science destroying us?
LMFAO!Do you really think that every modern human could survive in the forest just like that?Dude since the beginning of the human,people tried to make their life easier,there comes science to play,with science we have all the technology we need,most of the cures for the diseases and more.
Think about it which life would have been better:
As a wild human living in the forest,fighting to survive everyday
or,
As a modern human with a warm home,enjoying your life.


I would choose the first option. Why? It's because of civilization that humans are overpopulated. How? Because humans have no natural predators. Eventually, Earth will run out of resources and we will die. Now, imagine if we were living in the wild. We'll eat, and we'll be eaten. We can live without disrupting the balance of nature. And don't even compare the state of the planet today than it was a millennium ago. If this planet were still on it's state a millennium ago, then I'd choose to live in the wild.

If God loves us,why does he send us to Hell?

We are give the freedom of choice. Either to serve Him, or the devil. You cannot serve both God and money.

When god gave us the freedom he knew that we would do evil thing too,so he is also responsible for them,so why would he send us to hell when he is responsible for our sins?

That's why it's called freedom. We chose it ourselves, not Him. If He stopped us, it's not freedom anymore.

Why does he have prove our faith in Him aint He all knowing?

He doesn't 'prove' our faith. He tests it. Sure, He knew the answer, but we don't. Sometimes we think that our faith in Him is strong enough. He makes us realize if we can still have faith in Him even through hard times, not only the good ones.

Yea that's a syntax error from me,i meant test,and why would he put on in bad situations,i thought he loved us.

He put us on bad situations for us to learn, and also for us to know if we really love Him.

Why does he let us suffer (take Africa for example),why does he let people to kill each other,why does He let people follow ''Satan''?

Like I said, because we are given the freedom of choice. Or do you want to become a puppet that is controlled by somebody? He doesn't want forced worship. He wants us to accept Him on our own.
look at the 3rd response
If God created human kind in His image then how can you explain the Aliens,in which image he created them?

In which image did God create ants, elephants and lions? Does He need an image for them?

idk so tells us the religion,that God created us in His image.

God does not need an image. He's the God. The Almighty. Why would He need a sample image for His marvelous creation? In exception of humans, because He made us in His own image.

If Adam and Eve were real,how can you explain that humanity has 3 races?

Ever heard of the Tower of Babel? In the early times, humans wanted to get close to God so they tried to make a tower so high that it can reach the clouds in the sky. But God doesn't want that so He altered everyone's language so that they cannot understand each other. So the construction of the tower was canceled. Humanity does not have just 3 races. And, those races could have come from one race. Since people were scattered across the world (due to continents moving), they have evolved to survive in the climate/environment of their habitat. (e.g Africans have evolved black skin because white skin is more prone to skin cancer and can bear the amount of UV light, and curly hair because it can prevent too much exposure of your body to UV light.)

i thought religion was not supporting the evolution.

Who said that? What 'religion' was not supporting is the theory that people evolved from monkeys.

It goes like this:
Energy of the Universe-Big Bang-Evolution-Living species.

When you say Big Bang, it means that it's a combustion. When you say combustion, it means something explodes and fire spreads and burning stuff here and there. No organism can live through that. All that'll be left are inanimate objects floating to the space as debris. Can an explosion form an atmosphere? If so, why only on Earth?
Simple because the earth is not the only one containing living species.

That does not make sense to me. An atmosphere is formed only on Earth because it's not the only one containing living species?
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Post by Gangsta19 » November 27, 2011, 3:27 pm
Cheese wrote:
So tell me how can our bodies do that? If that was normal, then all tumors are safe,right?


Small tumors do vanish because the immune system identifies them as hostile and eliminates them.
Larger tumors rarely disappear,they should be surgically removed.
If you want to know how our bodies can cure itself (through the power of subconscious) read the book called The Power of Subconscious Mind by Joseph Murphy,
Joseph Murphy had sarcoma,he healed himself by the power of subconscious.
And no,all tumors are not safe,we got a big chance dying.But still most of them can be healed.


That's why it's called freedom. We chose it ourselves, not Him. If He stopped us, it's not freedom anymore.

Yes but doesn't God go against that freedom by sending us to Hell?I mean sure he gave it to us,and we chosen by that freedom to sin ( coz noone is prefect ) so why does he punish us then?

That does not make sense to me. An atmosphere is formed only on Earth because it's not the only one containing living species?

Earth is not the only planet with atmosphere,there are other planets too.Because it doesn't make sense that God would create a huge universe that contains only one planet with living species,and atmosphere.
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