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[Juice.]

Juice I just saw your Allah topic...You're right,Muhamed said everything about that religion and,as I was taught in school,he ruled people who believed him!Muhamed proposing another religion is just his way of ruling and to rule is all he wanted!

yep, all lucifer ever wanted to be is God, he was jealous of God and decided he'd trick God's greatest creation which is humans into learning Good and Evil and then he could be evil with his demons and rule over them.

[Sk1pper]

And if god exists, if he's smart enough, he'll have to give me a reason why I'm going to hell[/b]

And God spoke all these words, saying: “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

You shall have no other gods before me. GTA SA can be a god if you spend to much time on it, with it like anything else you really like that makes you forget about god.
I believe in myself. I do not need any supernatural god to make my life better. It's good as it is, I'm happy. P.S. I do not play SAMP.
You shall not make for yourself any carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain. You have said G-damn atleast 7 times here so Its safe to say you say God's name in vain http://ls-rcr.com/forum/search.php?st=0 ... hor_id=110 another one of God's law you've broken and still break.
Wow, I say god damn. GOD DAMN. What's the big deal? God damn it, you must realise that I cannot go to hell just because I said something like that
Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your manservant, nor your maidservant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it. You don't keep the sabbath day holy.
Funny how you say something without having any knowledge about it. I got used to that. But still it's true, I do not "honor" "the sabbath day". It's just a part of that story again. People made up that everything was made on some day and now every single person on earth must honor it. Days change, calendars aren't accurate. Today could be Sunday or Thursday if you count the days properly from the day "everything was created".

Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you. Only you know how well you listen and do what your parents say. God says rebellion is as bad as the sin of witchcraft! Ignore your parents telling you to do right and you won't live long.
Now here's a good one. If someone's parents are alcoholics and they ask you to go to the shop and buy some more vodka, should I listen to them? And even if they aren't they might be mistaken, they are humans like everyone else, I can correct them, I can argue with them, I can agree with them. They are the same as everyone else, it's just that they are my parents, I have much more respect for them and they are very close to me, which is different and means a lot.
You shall not murder.

You shall not commit adultery. That includes when you wank, another law of God you break.
So I will go to hell for wanking. Nonsense. I am not doing any harm to anyone. I am satisfying myself. Limiting yourself to a that kind of level is really stupid. Don't even try to say that it's homicide, that I'm killing lives. Seriously..

You shall not steal. I'm sure you've stolen, especially programs and games, its still considered stealing.
I've stolen when I was a little kid, with no functional brain inside my head. Now I realize that what I did was wrong, I am not doing it anymore. Plus, I can't be so sure when I have stolen something, or have I actually stolen something.
Games? The Pirate Bay? I admit I've downloaded a bunch of games. Apparently I'm going to hell for playing illegally downloaded games from the internet. That's so freakin' serious.

You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor. This mean you should love your nieghbor just like you love yourself which you know and God knows how you feel.
I cannot feel love towards someone I do not know. It's the same with hate. I am neutral towards people who I do not know. It's stupid to love that person in Australia right now ( no racism, just an example. )
You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.”

Don't want something just because you seen someone else with it, We've all been guilty of that before.
Wow so I've seen someone with nice shoes and it's forbidden for me to want them? RIDICULOUS. I'll get some money and buy those god damn shoes if I want. It's not a sin, it's a pathetic rule that has been made for absolutely no valid reason. Get real.



Now you've seen God's law and he has plenty reason to send you 234895789426 MPH headed for hell but hes merciful and giving you time on this earth to get right with him and stop living a sinful life. What you do with that time is entirely up to you.
One more thing. Can I talk to him? Yea, through prayer. But I thought he's a supernatural force, not human or anything else. You know what you're actually doing when praying? Talking to yourself.

[Juice.]

And if god exists, if he's smart enough, he'll have to give me a reason why I'm going to hell[/b]

And God spoke all these words, saying: “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

You shall have no other gods before me. GTA SA can be a god if you spend to much time on it, with it like anything else you really like that makes you forget about god.
I believe in myself. I do not need any supernatural god to make my life better. It's good as it is, I'm happy. P.S. I do not play SAMP.

But all your other games are satanic too. You know its no need to name the satanic games you play but if you want to go ahead and lets see.
You shall not make for yourself any carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain. You have said G-damn atleast 7 times here so Its safe to say you say God's name in vain http://ls-rcr.com/forum/search.php?st=0 ... hor_id=110 another one of God's law you've broken and still break.
Wow, I say god damn. GOD DAMN. What's the big deal? God damn it, you must realise that I cannot go to hell just because I said something like that

You don't believe in God or the devil but now you telling me what can send you to hell and what can't? you sound stupid right now mr atheist. You don't believe in the devil or hell so don't tell me about it. Saying that curse word = cursing AT God. Good thing hes a good God, a bad God would have been struck you down and turned your body into ashes.
Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your manservant, nor your maidservant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it. You don't keep the sabbath day holy.
Funny how you say something without having any knowledge about it. I got used to that. But still it's true, I do not "honor" "the sabbath day". It's just a part of that story again. People made up that everything was made on some day and now every single person on earth must honor it. Days change, calendars aren't accurate. Today could be Sunday or Thursday if you count the days properly from the day "everything was created".

Can you prove that? then why say something u can't prove? Have a good day sir.

Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you. Only you know how well you listen and do what your parents say. God says rebellion is as bad as the sin of witchcraft! Ignore your parents telling you to do right and you won't live long.
Now here's a good one. If someone's parents are alcoholics and they ask you to go to the shop and buy some more vodka, should I listen to them? And even if they aren't they might be mistaken, they are humans like everyone else, I can correct them, I can argue with them, I can agree with them. They are the same as everyone else, it's just that they are my parents, I have much more respect for them and they are very close to me, which is different and means a lot.

this one is for you to know, if your parents telling you the right things, do it.. btw you make your parents sound awful.

You shall not murder.

You shall not commit adultery. That includes when you wank, another law of God you break.
So I will go to hell for wanking. Nonsense. I am not doing any harm to anyone. I am satisfying myself. Limiting yourself to a that kind of level is really stupid. Don't even try to say that it's homicide, that I'm killing lives. Seriously..

I'm just showing you a basic set of laws and you admit to breaking them, I answered your question of why God would ever have reasons and you admit to all of them so far. Masturbation is cheating and just as sinful as per-marital sex. The porn you watch or w/e is sinful and evil and illuminati symbols n that too to make you love sex. They have you worshiping sex like devil worshipers.


You shall not steal. I'm sure you've stolen, especially programs and games, its still considered stealing.
I've stolen when I was a little kid, with no functional brain inside my head. Now I realize that what I did was wrong, I am not doing it anymore. Plus, I can't be so sure when I have stolen something, or have I actually stolen something.
Games? The Pirate Bay? I admit I've downloaded a bunch of games. Apparently I'm going to hell for playing illegally downloaded games from the internet. That's so freakin' serious.

people worked all day and night to create the game to make money and feed their families and you stole a ton of them because you are a thief. I'n the bible the devil is called "The Thief" and hes stealing the souls of many.

You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor. This mean you should love your nieghbor just like you love yourself which you know and God knows how you feel.
I cannot feel love towards someone I do not know. It's the same with hate. I am neutral towards people who I do not know. It's stupid to love that person in Australia right now ( no racism, just an example. )


That's what separate our mind state, I love everyone even people I have never met and I even love you and want the best for all of God's creations but some people don't have that loving, caring, understanding and helpful heart and it makes them who they are sometimes. Its time to change though and I believe in you.
You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.”

Don't want something just because you seen someone else with it, We've all been guilty of that before.
Wow so I've seen someone with nice shoes and it's forbidden for me to want them? RIDICULOUS. I'll get some money and buy those god damn shoes if I want. It's not a sin, it's a pathetic rule that has been made for absolutely no valid reason. Get real.

No its more like if you see your neighbors car and you want their car, like to take it from them.



Now you've seen God's law and he has plenty reason to send you 234895789426 MPH headed for hell but hes merciful and giving you time on this earth to get right with him and stop living a sinful life. What you do with that time is entirely up to you.
One more thing. Can I talk to him? Yea, through prayer. But I thought he's a supernatural force, not human or anything else. You know what you're actually doing when praying? Talking to yourself.

Not at all. Even if it was that's ok, you can talk to yourself [called thinking out loud] but as long as you DON'T answer yourself I can be alone and say "mannnnnn! I need to get my hair cut!" there's nothing wrong with that.

[Funderburk]

To bring order to people so some people believe in their religion so they dont go and murder 500 people because they think they will go to hell.

Indeed, because everyone in my family killed someone because they didnt accept our religion. seems legit.

Without religion people would either be A: Total anarchy. Or B: All working together. Maybe you should re read what I said.

[Sk1pper]

But all your other games are satanic too. You know its no need to name the satanic games you play but if you want to go ahead and lets see.
You seem to have stereotypes for everything. You assume and accuse without knowing. You just guess and believe it is true.

You don't believe in God or the devil but now you telling me what can send you to hell and what can't? you sound stupid right now mr atheist. You don't believe in the devil or hell so don't tell me about it. Saying that curse word = cursing AT God. Good thing hes a good God, a bad God would have been struck you down and turned your body into ashes.
I have critical thinking, I am not an idiot. I say what I want and do what I want. And that doesn't mean that I do bad things. I do what I want - I do good things, because I want good. If I would be under control by the devil, shouldn't I be destroying everything and be full of negative energy?

Can you prove that? then why say something u can't prove? Have a good day sir.
Why are you asking me when you're answering the question yourself? That's stupid and immature of you. You're asking me to prove something that cannot be proved, I will not start counting days now, I have better things to do. And it's funny how you ask for proof, should I get back to those questions that you like to ignore or skip during a discussion? Don't ignore this message.

this one is for you to know, if your parents telling you the right things, do it.. btw you make your parents sound awful.
I can honestly say that your brain is not that big. Have you read what I've said? I gave you AN EXAMPLE. An example is something completely UNRELATED to my life, but has something to do with THE QUESTION you gave me. My parents are not alcoholics, I love them. But get this into your head that it is impossible for them to be always right, they cannot be right all the time. Not only in my situation, I can say the same thing about every single parent on earth, whether he's an alcoholic, a good parent, an old person or a young girl. Common sense, man.

I'm just showing you a basic set of laws and you admit to breaking them, I answered your question of why God would ever have reasons and you admit to all of them so far. Masturbation is cheating and just as sinful as per-marital sex. The porn you watch or w/e is sinful and evil and illuminati symbols n that too to make you love sex. They have you worshiping sex like devil worshipers.
I haven't admitted to any of your rules, bud, don't make up stories. I don't worship sex, don't be stupid. It's just a form of satisfaction, don't see devil, illuminati everywhere, get real.

people worked all day and night to create the game to make money and feed their families and you stole a ton of them because you are a thief. I'n the bible the devil is called "The Thief" and hes stealing the souls of many.
To feed their families? They make tons of money and they have way much more than needed for food and you know it.

That's what separate our mind state, I love everyone even people I have never met and I even love you and want the best for all of God's creations but some people don't have that loving, caring, understanding and helpful heart and it makes them who they are sometimes. Its time to change though and I believe in you.
No, you don't and stop fooling yourself. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE to love someone you do not know. It's just like that because the bible told you to do so and you said "okay, what the heck, I'll love everyone, I don't know that they exist, but I'll love them". It does not make you evil if you do not love everyone. If you met a person and you suddenly hate him for no reason - that is bad. Same goes with love. But it is OK to be neutral towards others. When you get to meet the person, talk to him and see who he really is, then you have all the right to love or hate him.

[Juice.]

But all your other games are satanic too. You know its no need to name the satanic games you play but if you want to go ahead and lets see.
You seem to have stereotypes for everything. You assume and accuse without knowing. You just guess and believe it is true.


POST YOUR GAMES THEN, I thought I proved this to you in 2011 but post your games, we can play it again if we must. Lets see if its just a "stereotype"... Lets see if its a guess, POST THEM, lol just can't believe you still don't get this, come on man you're 17 right? you should know something after discussing this over a year.. Its fine though I will take you back to preschool after you post them.


You don't believe in God or the devil but now you telling me what can send you to hell and what can't? you sound stupid right now mr atheist. You don't believe in the devil or hell so don't tell me about it. Saying that curse word = cursing AT God. Good thing hes a good God, a bad God would have been struck you down and turned your body into ashes.
I have critical thinking, I am not an idiot. I say what I want and do what I want. And that doesn't mean that I do bad things. I do what I want - I do good things, because I want good. If I would be under control by the devil, shouldn't I be destroying everything and be full of negative energy?

No, the devil tells us to DO THOU WILT, do what ever you want. & you show your guilt because you speak as if you only do good things which is a lie because you are NOT perfect and just like the devil you only mention that you do good. There is no human on earth that hasn't done bad things.. Saying you're not an idiot is a contradiction after typing that. You do bad things and I just showed some of them and I don't even know you personally and you admitted to doing bad things. The devil tells you "you are perfect", the devil tells you "you can get into heaven with out God" which is a lie that will cost who ever believes that lie burning and suffering for ever. many of the devil worshipers on tv seem like great people, even my devil worshiper neighbors seem like great people but it don't change the fact they sleeping with the devil.


Can you prove that? then why say something u can't prove? Have a good day sir.
Why are you asking me when you're answering the question yourself? That's stupid and immature of you. You're asking me to prove something that cannot be proved, I will not start counting days now, I have better things to do. And it's funny how you ask for proof, should I get back to those questions that you like to ignore or skip during a discussion? Don't ignore this message.

sureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. BACK OUT LIKE I THOUGHT, I SEEN YOUR RETREAT COMING. You can't do anything you typed so run forest runnn. You can run away because YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING YOU JUST SAID SO STOP TYPING STUPID THINGS LIKE THAT NOW BECAUSE ITS PROVE IT OR SHUT IT. Don't downplay what gangster posted and say you can do it to and then when I ask you to do it you act like a little girl and say no. You're writing checks you can't cash, you're all TALK.. NO ACTION.. You're feeling so threatened you feel the need to dig in another topic that doesn't exist to make you stronger here. OHHH WHOAAA THATS SOOOO MANLY. MATTER OF FACT YEAH!!! POST THE QUESTIONS I DIDN'T ANSWER!!! I'm GOING TO PULL YOUR CARD AGAIN AND SEE IF YOU RUN AGAIN OR STAY LIKE A MAN. GO AHEAD, CASH THAT CHECK..

this one is for you to know, if your parents telling you the right things, do it.. btw you make your parents sound awful.
I can honestly say that your brain is not that big. Have you read what I've said? I gave you AN EXAMPLE. An example is something completely UNRELATED to my life, but has something to do with THE QUESTION you gave me. My parents are not alcoholics, I love them. But get this into your head that it is impossible for them to be always right, they cannot be right all the time. Not only in my situation, I can say the same thing about every single parent on earth, whether he's an alcoholic, a good parent, an old person or a young girl. Common sense, man.


Insulting won't make your sinful life any different, it just shows the devil is making you angry towards me and you react on it like you work for him. Weird enough I agree with you on one point, Without Jesus you cannot always be telling people to do whats right. So what religion are your parents?

I'm just showing you a basic set of laws and you admit to breaking them, I answered your question of why God would ever have reasons and you admit to all of them so far. Masturbation is cheating and just as sinful as per-marital sex. The porn you watch or w/e is sinful and evil and illuminati symbols n that too to make you love sex. They have you worshiping sex like devil worshipers.
I haven't admitted to any of your rules, bud, don't make up stories. I don't worship sex, don't be stupid. It's just a form of satisfaction, don't see devil, illuminati everywhere, get real.

So you didn't admit to breaking any of the 10 commandments? Ok you're also blind, I'll try to remember that. While you're being a online thief.


people worked all day and night to create the game to make money and feed their families and you stole a ton of them because you are a thief. I'n the bible the devil is called "The Thief" and hes stealing the souls of many.
To feed their families? They make tons of money and they have way much more than needed for food and you know it.

How do you know? thief! you are a thief and no matter what you say you STEAL. Until you stop STEALING you are a thief. & this is the guy who just said he never broke any commandments. wake up. Family or not you're taking money OUT of the pockets of people who made it. Go try that in a store and see what happens to ya thief.

That's what separate our mind state, I love everyone even people I have never met and I even love you and want the best for all of God's creations but some people don't have that loving, caring, understanding and helpful heart and it makes them who they are sometimes. Its time to change though and I believe in you.
No, you don't and stop fooling yourself. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE to love someone you do not know. It's just like that because the bible told you to do so and you said "okay, what the heck, I'll love everyone, I don't know that they exist, but I'll love them". It does not make you evil if you do not love everyone. If you met a person and you suddenly hate him for no reason - that is bad. Same goes with love. But it is OK to be neutral towards others. When you get to meet the person, talk to him and see who he really is, then you have all the right to love or hate him.

I didn't say you we're evil because you don't love everyone. You're a sinner [which we just found out about you] and you haven't found truth yet so of course you can't have a mind that loves or wants to help. Its not in you. Hating anyone is SIN, so that's another rule broken by a guy who wants me to believe he's perfect but his flaws stick out like a thumb slammed in the door. Its not me picking on you either, with out Jesus you can't do all good because that bad side [the devil] is still working inside of your thoughts. We humans are born with good and a bad side and until you FULLY ACCEPT THE GOOD SIDE WHICH IS JESUS, YOU WILL HAVE THE BAD SIDE BATTLING YOU INSIDE YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS WHEN YOU OPERATE AS A HUMAN MAKING YOU DO SINFUL THINGS. Just because you are ignorant to the rules doesn't mean the rules don't exist.

If you come in ls-rcr for the first time and don't know, don't read the no cheat policy and you cheat you will get banned. When you come on the forum crying in unban appeal you didn't know, no one will take pity on you because you were told when you came in no cheating[GOOD] and you chose to cheat anyway[BAD] so you are sent to where you belong. BANNED FOR EVER.

[Sk1pper]

But all your other games are satanic too. You know its no need to name the satanic games you play but if you want to go ahead and lets see.
You seem to have stereotypes for everything. You assume and accuse without knowing. You just guess and believe it is true.


POST YOUR GAMES THEN, I thought I proved this to you in 2011 but post your games, we can play it again if we must. Lets see if its just a "stereotype"... Lets see if its a guess, POST THEM, lol just can't believe you still don't get this, come on man you're 17 right? you should know something after discussing this over a year.. Its fine though I will take you back to preschool after you post them.
Of course you'll find "evil" things and references to the illuminati and the devil. You can't tell me that you haven't played games with satanic stuff in them. The thing is that I know what the symbols look like and what is their influence and I am aware of that. Deleting a game and not playing it simply because you saw a triangle in it or a number six is stupid. I've been playing games for a while now and I've stayed the same. I do not do what I do in games, I do not shoot people in the street or jump off buildings, I do not own weapons or brass knuckles, I do not drive in cars like an idiot and smash people. Games are for entertainment and for spending your free time. They do not farther than that, they stay within my computer and as soon as I go outside and hang out with my friends, it's over. It's a whole new place for me and the game that I've been playing 10 minutes ago means nothing to me.

You don't believe in God or the devil but now you telling me what can send you to hell and what can't? you sound stupid right now mr atheist. You don't believe in the devil or hell so don't tell me about it. Saying that curse word = cursing AT God. Good thing hes a good God, a bad God would have been struck you down and turned your body into ashes.
I have critical thinking, I am not an idiot. I say what I want and do what I want. And that doesn't mean that I do bad things. I do what I want - I do good things, because I want good. If I would be under control by the devil, shouldn't I be destroying everything and be full of negative energy?

No, the devil tells us to DO THOU WILT, do what ever you want. & you show your guilt because you speak as if you only do good things which is a lie because you are NOT perfect and just like the devil you only mention that you do good. There is no human on earth that hasn't done bad things.. Saying you're not an idiot is a contradiction after typing that. You do bad things and I just showed some of them and I don't even know you personally and you admitted to doing bad things. The devil tells you "you are perfect", the devil tells you "you can get into heaven with out God" which is a lie that will cost who ever believes that lie burning and suffering for ever. many of the devil worshipers on tv seem like great people, even my devil worshiper neighbors seem like great people but it don't change the fact they sleeping with the devil.
Of course I'm not perfect... Nobody is. And yes I agree, I did bad things and sometimes do out of my stupidity. But that is normal, we are all humans. Everyone has a good and a bad side. The side that you reveal most of the time is what makes you who you are. And I am not the one who reveals the bad side. I could not be simply lying about this stuff but it is up to you to believe it or not, it doesn't matter to me.

Can you prove that? then why say something u can't prove? Have a good day sir.
Why are you asking me when you're answering the question yourself? That's stupid and immature of you. You're asking me to prove something that cannot be proved, I will not start counting days now, I have better things to do. And it's funny how you ask for proof, should I get back to those questions that you like to ignore or skip during a discussion? Don't ignore this message.

sureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. BACK OUT LIKE I THOUGHT, I SEEN YOUR RETREAT COMING. You can't do anything you typed so run forest runnn. You can run away because YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING YOU JUST SAID SO STOP TYPING STUPID THINGS LIKE THAT NOW BECAUSE ITS PROVE IT OR SHUT IT. Don't downplay what gangster posted and say you can do it to and then when I ask you to do it you act like a little girl and say no. You're writing checks you can't cash, you're all TALK.. NO ACTION.. You're feeling so threatened you feel the need to dig in another topic that doesn't exist to make you stronger here. OHHH WHOAAA THATS SOOOO MANLY. MATTER OF FACT YEAH!!! POST THE QUESTIONS I DIDN'T ANSWER!!! I'm GOING TO PULL YOUR CARD AGAIN AND SEE IF YOU RUN AGAIN OR STAY LIKE A MAN. GO AHEAD, CASH THAT CHECK..
Wow and you think I am expressing anger? How am I supposed to understand the caps lock? I can see, so stop doing that. Back to topic... Yes, you are partly right, I do not honor the sabbath day. But again it goes back to your story. Honoring the sabbath day is a part of the bible. And I do not believe in the bible. I think it's nonsense that you have to honor a day. True, I cannot prove that the days aren't accurate, it was just my guess. But I see how you go all out of your mind and excited how I fucked up and didn't provide proof. Lol at least I didn't ignore your post and reply, UNLIKE SOMEONE. The bible a made up story and so is the think with honoring the sabbath day.

this one is for you to know, if your parents telling you the right things, do it.. btw you make your parents sound awful.
I can honestly say that your brain is not that big. Have you read what I've said? I gave you AN EXAMPLE. An example is something completely UNRELATED to my life, but has something to do with THE QUESTION you gave me. My parents are not alcoholics, I love them. But get this into your head that it is impossible for them to be always right, they cannot be right all the time. Not only in my situation, I can say the same thing about every single parent on earth, whether he's an alcoholic, a good parent, an old person or a young girl. Common sense, man.


Insulting won't make your sinful life any different, it just shows the devil is making you angry towards me and you react on it like you work for him. Weird enough I agree with you on one point, Without Jesus you cannot always be telling people to do whats right. So what religion are your parents?
How does my parents religion matter? I've already mentioned it. And I wasn't insulting, "I just have a quick reaction to bullshit". No but seriously it's either your dumb or you cannot simply deal with the fact that you have to agree with me. Because IT IS COMMON SENSE, there is NO-WAY to deny what I have said. I am telling you, it is true (I'm referring to my post above your answer).

I'm just showing you a basic set of laws and you admit to breaking them, I answered your question of why God would ever have reasons and you admit to all of them so far. Masturbation is cheating and just as sinful as per-marital sex. The porn you watch or w/e is sinful and evil and illuminati symbols n that too to make you love sex. They have you worshiping sex like devil worshipers.
I haven't admitted to any of your rules, bud, don't make up stories. I don't worship sex, don't be stupid. It's just a form of satisfaction, don't see devil, illuminati everywhere, get real.

So you didn't admit to breaking any of the 10 commandments? Ok you're also blind, I'll try to remember that. While you're being a online thief.


people worked all day and night to create the game to make money and feed their families and you stole a ton of them because you are a thief. I'n the bible the devil is called "The Thief" and hes stealing the souls of many.
To feed their families? They make tons of money and they have way much more than needed for food and you know it.

How do you know? thief! you are a thief and no matter what you say you STEAL. Until you stop STEALING you are a thief. & this is the guy who just said he never broke any commandments. wake up. Family or not you're taking money OUT of the pockets of people who made it. Go try that in a store and see what happens to ya thief.
Downloading games and stealing from a store is different. Two completely different things.

That's what separate our mind state, I love everyone even people I have never met and I even love you and want the best for all of God's creations but some people don't have that loving, caring, understanding and helpful heart and it makes them who they are sometimes. Its time to change though and I believe in you.
No, you don't and stop fooling yourself. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE to love someone you do not know. It's just like that because the bible told you to do so and you said "okay, what the heck, I'll love everyone, I don't know that they exist, but I'll love them". It does not make you evil if you do not love everyone. If you met a person and you suddenly hate him for no reason - that is bad. Same goes with love. But it is OK to be neutral towards others. When you get to meet the person, talk to him and see who he really is, then you have all the right to love or hate him.

I didn't say you we're evil because you don't love everyone. You're a sinner [which we just found out about you] and you haven't found truth yet so of course you can't have a mind that loves or wants to help. Its not in you. Hating anyone is SIN, so that's another rule broken by a guy who wants me to believe he's perfect but his flaws stick out like a thumb slammed in the door. Its not me picking on you either, with out Jesus you can't do all good because that bad side [the devil] is still working inside of your thoughts. We humans are born with good and a bad side and until you FULLY ACCEPT THE GOOD SIDE WHICH IS JESUS, YOU WILL HAVE THE BAD SIDE BATTLING YOU INSIDE YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS WHEN YOU OPERATE AS A HUMAN MAKING YOU DO SINFUL THINGS. Just because you are ignorant to the rules doesn't mean the rules don't exist.
It's simply the same thing over and over again from you my brain cannot handle it. I do not need any supernatural being handle my life. I believe in myself and that is what guides me in life - me. I have my own brain and I do not need any help from some made up book of stories that tell you how to live and what to do and who to worship. It's made for weak people who cannot handle life on their own.

If you come in ls-rcr for the first time and don't know, don't read the no cheat policy and you cheat you will get banned. When you come on the forum crying in unban appeal you didn't know, no one will take pity on you because you were told when you came in no cheating[GOOD] and you chose to cheat anyway[BAD] so you are sent to where you belong. BANNED FOR EVER.

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Oh and yea, I think you asked for this.. Found it.

I didn't have an internet connection for a few days, only saw Juice's response on my phone and to reply it was very difficult, so now that I got my PC back, I'll comfortably lay out every single thought I have in my head right now.
Please take your time and read this (Juice), this is a summary of the whole discussion in my eyes.

Alright, this is my very last post here, I do not care what any of you are going to think or say, I have my own life and this long discussion made me open my eyes and realise what is really happening and who is right and who is wrong.
Lets start off with me replying to Juice.

Disrespecting a person just over his opinion? That tells a lot. You can't respect him for having a different opinion, just because you think differently. You're not tolerating his opinion and that means that you could not handle a normal discussion, a simple argument.


Hmmmmm.. is that righhhttt?


I simply cannot stand seeing Juice constantly pushing HIS OWN OPINION

TAKE YOUR OWN ADVICE.

"Just like religion! Like I said before, discussion is a discussion, if you can't handle the pressure or whatever you don't like in it, leave, don't read, don't post at all.

I did not insult you, I did not disrespect you. All I said is that you are doing wrong by trying to tell other people to believe in Christianity. I'll go out of the current discussion and tell you this: there are loads of religions in the world, let people choose what they want to, inculding atheism. Let them choose their own beliefs. I do not go around telling everyone to believe in this or that, I could do that in nearly every topic in this forum, but I don't need that, I don't need to waste my time like that and argue with people over nothing. You, on the other hand, had even posted a prayer once. Not sure was it on this forum or not, but don't even dare to disagree. Many of your actions are considered as you converting other people to christianity, but you said you are only here to tell us the truth. So what is it then, Juice?

I am happy hobo was able to admit he hates God, and so have you.

That needs proof, so give me solid proof OR YOU'RE A LIAR. Saying things like that just means either you can prove it or not, I mean this is a forum, you can quote anybody. So do it, a quote where I said that I hate god.
Going back to what is true, I do not hate god. These are my own feelings, I do not believe in him, I cannot hate or love someone/something I do not believe in. Now we can see the difference between made up stuff and common sense.

Parts where you say that I am unsure ( lol what a bunch of crap )

Is orthodox a word. I think it is. Well that's my religion I think." [you think?? once again he's unsure of ANYTHING]

I remember googling "sentikis" to translate it to english. That is why I was unsure in what I am saying, I'm not from USA or England, I'm from Lithuania, don't expect me to know english like you do.

Hes admitting that "evil" does exist and apply to the Illuminati as
the Bible says about them. I was wrong there because we do agree THERE IS EVIL.
And Just like hobo he too worships science and uses them as a source of information for life

Yes, evil exists. What else is new? Not the devil, but EVIL. Humans do bad things etc etc, we call them evil. There is no "devil influence", there is human behavior.
I worship science? I also worship my mother because I love her and take advice from her. Sounds normal? NO. I do not do any rituals or go around and invite people to a cult where we worship science. I just READ and LEARN from VARIOUS sources and consider all of the information I've gathered and split it into two sides: the ones that are more believable and the ones that seems less possible. Again, random things, don't make something up out of nothing.

"Science books aren't created by some random dudes, how you say.
They are written by scientists who actually have their statements based on facts" [YEAH? WELL NAME THEM!!!! This is him paying respects to his religion of SCIENCE again]

Why should I care who wrote the books when I have the info infront of me and I see facts. I think to myself "can this be possible, does this seem normal, does it apply to our world?". I'm very surprised when you're stating the same thing over and over again about me even though I haven't said that a single time ( @ science religion, science worshipper ).

"It's like the whole issue of God being real, I'm gonna wait and see but I don't deny or accept he exists." [REALLY?]

"that bullcrap devil-satan-god-heaven-hell thingy."


ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE UNSURE OF ANYTHING YOU SAY!!!!
ANOTHER CONTRADICTION.

Not so fast, you're failing on each step. By saying GOD I don't mean the god you believe in, I don't mean devil either. I have in mind the divine presence in the universe. I am not sure about it ( YES I AM UNSURE, BECAUSE THERE IS NO PROOF OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT COULD LET ME THINK THAT IT IS REAL 100% ), there are a lot of versions relating this topic, therefore I cannot stand solidly on one single opinion. Contradiction? Not even close.

"Lol if YOU think that both sides will never agree, that doesn't mean the truth doesn't exist and that I don't believe that truth exists." [YOU JUST SAID THERE IS NO ACTUAL TRUTH]

ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE UNSURE OF ANYTHING YOU SAY!!!!
ANOTHER CONTRADICTION.

Sometimes you just gotta take things differently and not how they sounds at the first look. I said "there is no ACTUAL truth", because AT THIS TOPIC ( god existance ) there was never any truth revealed, people went on and on with this discussion but never found out the truth, discussions are still happening. Stop searching for words where I may fail to deny what you say, better luck next time.

We got to see a sympathetic side of skipper
when 20 people got ran over in Egypt, his response was

"Crazy shit happening in Egypt...
God bless them."


We seen another sympathetic moment from skipper... ETCETC

Uhm, no luck apparently. By saying something like that I do not say that I believe in god, lol get real. That is my own way of expressing how I feel towards others, I felt sorry that those people are in such situations, I mentioned god, so what? And NO that does not mean he's "speaking through me". I can use many words but that will not reveal my views or beliefs. It's a cliche fraze, everyone uses it.

You are unsure of everything you have typed. - I do not care how much "proof" you've posted, I ask for more, because I denied every nonsense you said. Honestly, I laughed sometimes.
YOU DON'T EVEN BELIEVE YOU lol. - At some point that even sounds as an insult to me, but I'll let it go this time because you clearly have no idea what you're talking about, you know nothing about me or my lifestyle to be able to say that.
because he hates God. - again, lol, you're making things up, literaly.
He has chosen science as his religion like hobo and so He will have to deal with the price tag of that lifestyle. - I did not choose science, there are things that I do not believe and scientists state them. Again, made up stuff.
oh yea skipz0r you're done. - Done? You think anything you posted is valuable? LOL it is the biggest pile of nonsense, lies, made up stuff and unworthy arguments of a classical christian. I am near to writing a book here and you try and deny anything here without your classical denials such as "I don't care", writing a bunch of words that are off-topic, cliche christian arguments and your personal favorite - MADE UP STUFF which you post only because a book tells you and not because you see that in a person.

The problem about you Juice is that you know about things that most people have no clue about, but you are absolutely against even thinking about the existance of god, the bible, you have your own opinion and your views and ideas do not let you think about something that differs from your opinion and even disproves your ideas. That is one big mistake you are doing. Do not think that if you are talking with a 16 year old you are 100% right and I am wrong, as far as I know you are not changing your opinion for a really long time, but that does not mean that you are right, being experienced in life has nothing to do with religious views and the way you see god. Your biggest mistake - denying anything that is against your opinion. I am actually surprised that you are like that when I remember you being an adult.

These are my arguments about god's existance:
PROOF OF GOD
The most common argument - there is no proof that god exists. I find it hard to believe in something that has no proof which could seem valuable. Do not say that we cannot disprove the existance of god, it is you who has to prove why there is a god. How can you ask someone to prove something if the subject itself is not proven. This is common sense, nothing tricky.

THE "HOLY" BIBLE
Everything you say is based on the bible. You have not even thought of examining the bible. You know very well about the illuminati but you are too thick to think about the version of illuminati using the bible and the whole god idea for their good. Illuminati controls this world for a very long time, I do not see how religion would be a problem for them in the first place, if it would have been a threat for them, they would have taken care of it. So you have no valid reason go believe in the bible but the fact that it is told to be real. Hold that thought, by who it is told, I wonder?

JESUS
I could split the bible in to many parts but let us talk about Jesus. Who was he? A person with no bad characteristics, who later was given the ability to walk on water, heal people and other non-explainable abilities? This sounds unreal and impossible, therefore it is a story OR a story with a hidden meaning. Think about this idea, do not just throw it over your shoulder and mark it as an evil atneistic idea.

RELIGION
Religion is something that instantly associates with god. But what is religion really? A way to bring people closer to god or a way to brainwash and manipulate people? Once again this goes back to the illuminati. They are in-control of this world and one thing tbat would be great fof them is something like religion-nearly the best way of people control. This mess and labyrinth has made two sides that are thought to be evil and the ones that are thought the be good. It is actually the other way around.

LIFESTYLE
It is said by christians that you are either on god's side or the devil's, there is no in between. It is also said that no matter what you do, how good you are and how you try to do good, make others happy and just live your life like a normal peaceful person you are still on devils side and will go to hell because you do not believe in god. I simply find this the most ridiculous thing that christianity states. You can find the most generous, happy, good, nice person with all these positive things and very few bad ones and if he is an atheist, he will go to hell. So this christian god does not care what have you done for this world and that you were absolutely against evil your whole life, you are stil going to hell. Christians claim that there are no good people, we all sin and therefore we are bad, this Jesus was the only perfect person in human history and that is why people praise him. Give me one single reason how all of this can be logical.

YOUR OWN RELIGION
There are a lot of religions in the world and I ask any deist - what makes you think your religion and god is better than any others? All of these so called holy books are contradicting eachother and this just leads to a question - who should I believe? And then, why should I believe? Think about everything widely and without any limits or thought that this or that idea could be evil, just realise for once that everything might be very different and when something happens what will you do if Jesus is not going to show up?

Now tell me something I don't know or you have never said.
You're a 24 year old man who lives almost on the other side of the planet, but you let me know so much about what is going on behind the scenes. Even your statements that in my opinion were false, made me realise the truth. However, I cannot say that you are a person who knows how to handle a discussion. Sometimes, yes, but sometimes - no. You go over the limit and make up stuff, accuse people of something they're not, give advise when it's based on your own beliefs and just do things that a normal adult would not do. Thank you for reading and good luck in life.
BYE.

[Sk1pper]

Where'd ya go Juice?

BACK OUT LIKE I THOUGHT, I SEEN YOUR RETREAT COMING. You can't do anything you typed so run forest runnn. You can run away because YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING YOU JUST SAID SO STOP TYPING STUPID THINGS LIKE THAT NOW BECAUSE ITS PROVE IT OR SHUT IT.

[Juice.]

Of course you'll find "evil" things and references to the illuminati and the devil. You can't tell me that you haven't played games with satanic stuff in them. The thing is that I know what the symbols look like and what is their influence and I am aware of that. Deleting a game and not playing it simply because you saw a triangle in it or a number six is stupid. I've been playing games for a while now and I've stayed the same. I do not do what I do in games, I do not shoot people in the street or jump off buildings, I do not own weapons or brass knuckles, I do not drive in cars like an idiot and smash people. Games are for entertainment and for spending your free time. They do not farther than that, they stay within my computer and as soon as I go outside and hang out with my friends, it's over. It's a whole new place for me and the game that I've been playing 10 minutes ago means nothing to me.

you better not post them games and show whats influencing your life. You can say what it does to you but you don't even know God exist so your word on what a game can do to you is USELESS. This is like explaining Linear Algebra to a first grader. You're so far behind that I have to go back to when I was 2 years old to speak with you. Its not a bad thing but your parents didn't know better. God says train them up in the way they should go, So when they get older they will not depart from it. Since your parents didn't train you up right I can't expect good results. If you want to believe these illuminati members spent billions of dollars on MK ULTRA to learn how to brainwash ALL HUMANS, and it didn't work then you're more ignorant than I could have ever imagined.


Of course I'm not perfect... Nobody is. And yes I agree, I did bad things and sometimes do out of my stupidity. But that is normal, we are all humans. Everyone has a good and a bad side. The side that you reveal most of the time is what makes you who you are. And I am not the one who reveals the bad side. I could not be simply lying about this stuff but it is up to you to believe it or not, it doesn't matter to me.

we learn a few things in this post. You do bad things, you're stupid, but that's normal. You're human, everyone has a good and a evil side until they get Jesus. You believe you show your good side more which is an opinion and not a smart opinion because to know that I need to speak with people that have to deal with you in real life, of course you will tell me you're a goody good boy, genius. The devil tells his followers they are good without God which is a lie. I believe you may think you're doing good because in your thoughts "when the devil talks to you" hes saying you're perfect. In his eyes, headed for hell is perfect, he would love to burn off your private parts for eternity. Right before dumping your body in the lake of fire only to bring you back to hell to repeat that forever.

Why are you asking me when you're answering the question yourself? That's stupid and immature of you. You're asking me to prove something that cannot be proved, I will not start counting days now, I have better things to do. And it's funny how you ask for proof, should I get back to those questions that you like to ignore or skip during a discussion? Don't ignore this message.

I didn't ignore anything, if so ask me again I will answer anything. If I missed it, that's only because I had a lot more posts to get to.

Wow and you think I am expressing anger? How am I supposed to understand the caps lock? I can see, so stop doing that. Back to topic... Yes, you are partly right, I do not honor the sabbath day. But again it goes back to your story. Honoring the sabbath day is a part of the bible. And I do not believe in the bible. I think it's nonsense that you have to honor a day. True, I cannot prove that the days aren't accurate, it was just my guess. But I see how you go all out of your mind and excited how I fucked up and didn't provide proof. Lol at least I didn't ignore your post and reply, UNLIKE SOMEONE. The bible a made up story and so is the think with honoring the sabbath day.

You don't know better. next


How does my parents religion matter? I've already mentioned it. And I wasn't insulting, "I just have a quick reaction to bullshit". No but seriously it's either your dumb or you cannot simply deal with the fact that you have to agree with me. Because IT IS COMMON SENSE, there is NO-WAY to deny what I have said. I am telling you, it is true (I'm referring to my post above your answer).


Insulting me doesn't prove anything but weakness.

Downloading games and stealing from a store is different. Two completely different things.

Rigggght! and being gay and homosexual are two completely different things.. you just put your foot in your mouth again. That shows the devil has blinded you, You can't even tell when you're STEALING something you're suppose to pay for. The devil is a liar.


It's simply the same thing over and over again from you my brain cannot handle it. I do not need any supernatural being handle my life. I believe in myself and that is what guides me in life - me. I have my own brain and I do not need any help from some made up book of stories that tell you how to live and what to do and who to worship. It's made for weak people who cannot handle life on their own.

So now you are saying you are your god, like devil worshipers believe. Finally you admit what I've been trying to tell you for over a year now. 6=man, 7=god.. 6+7=man becoming God on earth and doing what ever they want to because they feel they are god.. Seems like you're pretty far over that bridge of becoming a devil worshiper. You see that's why when we get a lot of money, we spend so much on ourselves as gifts to us. We are worshiping ourselves as God and just how I believe in God you type "you believe in you" and you guide your life. You have the same philosophy as devil worshipers. Once against you're showing a trait of people headed for hell man, wake up.

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Oh and yea, I think you asked for this.. Found it.

I didn't have an internet connection for a few days, only saw Juice's response on my phone and to reply it was very difficult, so now that I got my PC back, I'll comfortably lay out every single thought I have in my head right now.
Please take your time and read this (Juice), this is a summary of the whole discussion in my eyes.

Alright, this is my very last post here, I do not care what any of you are going to think or say, I have my own life and this long discussion made me open my eyes and realise what is really happening and who is right and who is wrong.
Lets start off with me replying to Juice.

Disrespecting a person just over his opinion? That tells a lot. You can't respect him for having a different opinion, just because you think differently. You're not tolerating his opinion and that means that you could not handle a normal discussion, a simple argument.


Hmmmmm.. is that righhhttt?


I simply cannot stand seeing Juice constantly pushing HIS OWN OPINION

TAKE YOUR OWN ADVICE.

"Just like religion! Like I said before, discussion is a discussion, if you can't handle the pressure or whatever you don't like in it, leave, don't read, don't post at all.

I did not insult you, I did not disrespect you. All I said is that you are doing wrong by trying to tell other people to believe in Christianity. I'll go out of the current discussion and tell you this: there are loads of religions in the world, let people choose what they want to, inculding atheism. Let them choose their own beliefs. I do not go around telling everyone to believe in this or that, I could do that in nearly every topic in this forum, but I don't need that, I don't need to waste my time like that and argue with people over nothing. You, on the other hand, had even posted a prayer once. Not sure was it on this forum or not, but don't even dare to disagree. Many of your actions are considered as you converting other people to christianity, but you said you are only here to tell us the truth. So what is it then, Juice?

I am happy hobo was able to admit he hates God, and so have you.

That needs proof, so give me solid proof OR YOU'RE A LIAR. Saying things like that just means either you can prove it or not, I mean this is a forum, you can quote anybody. So do it, a quote where I said that I hate god.
Going back to what is true, I do not hate god. These are my own feelings, I do not believe in him, I cannot hate or love someone/something I do not believe in. Now we can see the difference between made up stuff and common sense.

Parts where you say that I am unsure ( lol what a bunch of crap )

Is orthodox a word. I think it is. Well that's my religion I think." [you think?? once again he's unsure of ANYTHING]

I remember googling "sentikis" to translate it to english. That is why I was unsure in what I am saying, I'm not from USA or England, I'm from Lithuania, don't expect me to know english like you do.

Hes admitting that "evil" does exist and apply to the Illuminati as
the Bible says about them. I was wrong there because we do agree THERE IS EVIL.
And Just like hobo he too worships science and uses them as a source of information for life

Yes, evil exists. What else is new? Not the devil, but EVIL. Humans do bad things etc etc, we call them evil. There is no "devil influence", there is human behavior.
I worship science? I also worship my mother because I love her and take advice from her. Sounds normal? NO. I do not do any rituals or go around and invite people to a cult where we worship science. I just READ and LEARN from VARIOUS sources and consider all of the information I've gathered and split it into two sides: the ones that are more believable and the ones that seems less possible. Again, random things, don't make something up out of nothing.

"Science books aren't created by some random dudes, how you say.
They are written by scientists who actually have their statements based on facts" [YEAH? WELL NAME THEM!!!! This is him paying respects to his religion of SCIENCE again]

Why should I care who wrote the books when I have the info infront of me and I see facts. I think to myself "can this be possible, does this seem normal, does it apply to our world?". I'm very surprised when you're stating the same thing over and over again about me even though I haven't said that a single time ( @ science religion, science worshipper ).

"It's like the whole issue of God being real, I'm gonna wait and see but I don't deny or accept he exists." [REALLY?]

[this is what I've been telling you so long, you worship science like hobo and even say the exact same thing he does. You're like a babyhobo, here is his signature that says what you just said above.]

Say a prayer, but let the good times roll
In case God doesn't show...



"that bullcrap devil-satan-god-heaven-hell thingy."


ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE UNSURE OF ANYTHING YOU SAY!!!!
ANOTHER CONTRADICTION.

Not so fast, you're failing on each step. By saying GOD I don't mean the god you believe in, I don't mean devil either. I have in mind the divine presence in the universe. I am not sure about it ( YES I AM UNSURE, BECAUSE THERE IS NO PROOF OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT COULD LET ME THINK THAT IT IS REAL 100% ), there are a lot of versions relating this topic, therefore I cannot stand solidly on one single opinion. Contradiction? Not even close.

Admitting you're not sure here, Find me a post where I claim to be UNSURE. I'm not putting my trust in a guy like you who is UNSURE. JUST FORGET ABOUT THAT UNSURE MAN.

"Lol if YOU think that both sides will never agree, that doesn't mean the truth doesn't exist and that I don't believe that truth exists." [YOU JUST SAID THERE IS NO ACTUAL TRUTH]

ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE UNSURE OF ANYTHING YOU SAY!!!!
ANOTHER CONTRADICTION.

Sometimes you just gotta take things differently and not how they sounds at the first look. I said "there is no ACTUAL truth", because AT THIS TOPIC ( god existance ) there was never any truth revealed, people went on and on with this discussion but never found out the truth, discussions are still happening. Stop searching for words where I may fail to deny what you say, better luck next time.

We got to see a sympathetic side of skipper
when 20 people got ran over in Egypt, his response was

"Crazy shit happening in Egypt...
God bless them."


We seen another sympathetic moment from skipper... ETCETC

Uhm, no luck apparently. By saying something like that I do not say that I believe in god, lol get real. That is my own way of expressing how I feel towards others, I felt sorry that those people are in such situations, I mentioned god, so what? And NO that does not mean he's "speaking through me". I can use many words but that will not reveal my views or beliefs. It's a cliche fraze, everyone uses it.

You are unsure of everything you have typed. - I do not care how much "proof" you've posted, I ask for more, because I denied every nonsense you said. Honestly, I laughed sometimes.
YOU DON'T EVEN BELIEVE YOU lol. - At some point that even sounds as an insult to me, but I'll let it go this time because you clearly have no idea what you're talking about, you know nothing about me or my lifestyle to be able to say that.
because he hates God. - again, lol, you're making things up, literaly.
He has chosen science as his religion like hobo and so He will have to deal with the price tag of that lifestyle. - I did not choose science, there are things that I do not believe and scientists state them. Again, made up stuff.
oh yea skipz0r you're done. - Done? You think anything you posted is valuable? LOL it is the biggest pile of nonsense, lies, made up stuff and unworthy arguments of a classical christian. I am near to writing a book here and you try and deny anything here without your classical denials such as "I don't care", writing a bunch of words that are off-topic, cliche christian arguments and your personal favorite - MADE UP STUFF which you post only because a book tells you and not because you see that in a person.



The problem about you Juice is that you know about things that most people have no clue about, but you are absolutely against even thinking about the existance of god, the bible, you have your own opinion and your views and ideas do not let you think about something that differs from your opinion and even disproves your ideas. That is one big mistake you are doing. Do not think that if you are talking with a 16 year old you are 100% right and I am wrong, as far as I know you are not changing your opinion for a really long time, but that does not mean that you are right, being experienced in life has nothing to do with religious views and the way you see god. Your biggest mistake - denying anything that is against your opinion. I am actually surprised that you are like that when I remember you being an adult.

Experience > Opinions


These are my arguments about god's existance:
PROOF OF GOD
The most common argument - there is no proof that god exists. I find it hard to believe in something that has no proof which could seem valuable. Do not say that we cannot disprove the existance of god, it is you who has to prove why there is a god. How can you ask someone to prove something if the subject itself is not proven. This is common sense, nothing tricky.

The same works backwards, we have a topic called "Prove a God doesn't exist" and its a million pages long and no satanist proved God didn't exist. I laughed as they tried. You guys got so desperate you forgot the title and started asking for proof he DID exist because you guys had NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THE "HOLY" BIBLE
Everything you say is based on the bible. You have not even thought of examining the bible. You know very well about the illuminati but you are too thick to think about the version of illuminati using the bible and the whole god idea for their good. Illuminati controls this world for a very long time, I do not see how religion would be a problem for them in the first place, if it would have been a threat for them, they would have taken care of it. So you have no valid reason go believe in the bible but the fact that it is told to be real. Hold that thought, by who it is told, I wonder?

everything I said is not based on the bible but most of it is BACKED UP by the bible and that's what pissed you off. You agree the illuminati exist which the bible is the reason people know about them. You believe in certain parts of the bible and that scares you because you know Jesus is a part of the bible and he must be true too. I know.

Tell me how the bible uses the illuminati for its good

They exist, they control this earth and the bible warns of their evil plans.. Face it the illuminati is BAD and the bible says they are BAD.. We are against them. The only way you can see the bible and christians as bad is if you are a devil worshiper/illuminati yourself.

You say "Illuminati controls this world for a very long time"

God says

2nd Corinthians 4:4, Satan is the god of this world


Once again you agree with the bible, that they control this world as devil worshipers and God says the devil controls this world. Good so you do know.

JESUS
I could split the bible in to many parts but let us talk about Jesus. Who was he? A person with no bad characteristics, who later was given the ability to walk on water, heal people and other non-explainable abilities? This sounds unreal and impossible, therefore it is a story OR a story with a hidden meaning. Think about this idea, do not just throw it over your shoulder and mark it as an evil atneistic idea.

Jesus is God, of course things he do sound hard to explain to an average joe sitting on the couch eating potato chips bro.

Matthew 19:26 - Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."

You are thinking of Jesus as just a regular guy, and hes NOT! He is Lord of lord, king of kings. None can come to the father but through him. With out Jesus there is no heaven in your future. Case Closed.


RELIGION
Religion is something that instantly associates with god. But what is religion really? A way to bring people closer to god or a way to brainwash and manipulate people? Once again this goes back to the illuminati. They are in-control of this world and one thing tbat would be great fof them is something like religion-nearly the best way of people control. This mess and labyrinth has made two sides that are thought to be evil and the ones that are thought the be good. It is actually the other way around.

But God teaches us that the illuminati are bad, and that they are controlled by the devil.. If God was on there side why would he speak out AGAINST THEM? Come on man you talk all this common sense crap but you turn that function on and off.. KEEP IT ON. GOD IS AGAINST THE ILLUMINATI/DEVIL WORSHIPERS. The whole bible warns of them and they're tactics and future plans to fully control earth and create the one world religion of satan worship. I won't be to tough on ya here because you didn't read the bible and therefore you don't understand how much Jesus is AGAINST evil.



LIFESTYLE
It is said by christians that you are either on god's side or the devil's, there is no in between. It is also said that no matter what you do, how good you are and how you try to do good, make others happy and just live your life like a normal peaceful person you are still on devils side and will go to hell because you do not believe in god. I simply find this the most ridiculous thing that christianity states. You can find the most generous, happy, good, nice person with all these positive things and very few bad ones and if he is an atheist, he will go to hell. So this christian god does not care what have you done for this world and that you were absolutely against evil your whole life, you are stil going to hell. Christians claim that there are no good people, we all sin and therefore we are bad, this Jesus was the only perfect person in human history and that is why people praise him. Give me one single reason how all of this can be logical.


There is no normal person if so name me one................... OK I THOUGHT SO.


You agree we have a GOOD and EVIL side, YOU SAID THAT... What makes you think you can kill that evil side all alone? Only Jesus can do that for you and with that evil side attached to your soul you cannot enter heaven.

"You can find the most generous, happy, good, nice person with all these positive things and very few bad ones and if he is an atheist, he will go to hell."

Name me 5 of them...................... OK I THOUGHT SO.


Its logical because Jesus is God in human form. He was sent by God to die for our sins and give us a better chance into heaven by leaving his holy spirit and he experienced what we have to, BUT WORSE as humans and can be a very fair judge unlike any other. We are born with Good and Evil in us.. When you choose God you kill your EVIL side. When you choose the devil, you kill you're GOOD side.. I should that in the Beyonce video "crazy in love" shes in a pretty dress and then she gets in a car and jay z lights it on fire and it explodes killed her GOOD side.... She is alter seen dressed like a slut in all black as a symbol that she killed her GOOD side and is now a worker for the devil.

YOUR OWN RELIGION
There are a lot of religions in the world and I ask any deist - what makes you think your religion and god is better than any others? All of these so called holy books are contradicting eachother and this just leads to a question - who should I believe? And then, why should I believe? Think about everything widely and without any limits or thought that this or that idea could be evil, just realise for once that everything might be very different and when something happens what will you do if Jesus is not going to show up?

Its not about being BETTER. That's your mistake right there.. Ever heard the saying "Honesty is the best Policy".. God is the truth and he's the only reasonable choice unless you are truly evil. The truth is the BEST, Case closed.

You should do research on all of the religions for yourself and stop being lazy. I did research for the lazy people and the truth hurt them very badly. It wasn't my intention but sometimes the truth hurts.

If you don't have faith in Jesus he won't show up for you, he's always showed up for me and blessed me.

Matthew 17:20 - "You don't have enough faith," Jesus told them. "I tell you the truth, if you had faith even as small as a mustard seed, you could say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it would move. Nothing would be impossible."







Now tell me something I don't know or you have never said.
You're a 24 year old man who lives almost on the other side of the planet, but you let me know so much about what is going on behind the scenes. Even your statements that in my opinion were false, made me realise the truth. However, I cannot say that you are a person who knows how to handle a discussion. Sometimes, yes, but sometimes - no. You go over the limit and make up stuff, accuse people of something they're not, give advise when it's based on your own beliefs and just do things that a normal adult would not do. Thank you for reading and good luck in life.
BYE.

You are free to believe what ever you want but I have obligation's and one human or 100 billion humans is not nearly enough to stop what must be done. If you don't believe it, don't want to hear it, simply don't return because you see what it is over here. If you're a gay guy, you have no business in the straight club trying to hang out because you won't like what you find there. When you leave the straight club the music will continue and the dancing will continue. You're leaving will not stop the show so if where you are doesn't agree with you then don't return.... batman[/quote]

[Juice.]

I guess it was God's plan for me to speak of that "Crazy in love" video. I went you youtube and on the right side of the homepage where they give you video suggestions was this video! I did not search for it.


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