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[Juice.]

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jay z 1996 interview. This information is not new! its only new to YOU.

This was 16 years ago!! I was just 9 years old and many of you didn't exist yet.

[Sk1pper]

you better not post them games and show whats influencing your life. You can say what it does to you but you don't even know God exist so your word on what a game can do to you is USELESS. This is like explaining Linear Algebra to a first grader. You're so far behind that I have to go back to when I was 2 years old to speak with you. Its not a bad thing but your parents didn't know better. God says train them up in the way they should go, So when they get older they will not depart from it. Since your parents didn't train you up right I can't expect good results. If you want to believe these illuminati members spent billions of dollars on MK ULTRA to learn how to brainwash ALL HUMANS, and it didn't work then you're more ignorant than I could have ever imagined.

I know what your ideas are and what you believe in, so I have all the right and capability to say whether or not a game can influence me. And it actually has nothing to do with god, it's all psychological.
It's funny to hear you insulting me and talking all smart as if I am way out of your league. I'm in a discussion with you for quite a while and quite frankly you haven't impressed me, I've just found out that people can actually be blind while they have the ability to see. And you know absolutely nothing about me, my family or my lifestyle. So making accusations and saying that I am this and that, I am surrounded by these and those, is far beyond stupid and ignorant. You know better than that. Or..?

we learn a few things in this post. You do bad things, you're stupid, but that's normal. You're human, everyone has a good and a evil side until they get Jesus. You believe you show your good side more which is an opinion and not a smart opinion because to know that I need to speak with people that have to deal with you in real life, of course you will tell me you're a goody good boy, genius. The devil tells his followers they are good without God which is a lie. I believe you may think you're doing good because in your thoughts "when the devil talks to you" hes saying you're perfect. In his eyes, headed for hell is perfect, he would love to burn off your private parts for eternity. Right before dumping your body in the lake of fire only to bring you back to hell to repeat that forever.

Again insulting me without a proper reason. Don't get me wrong, I'm not offended that easily, but coming from you it sounds strange and kinda stupid. You're that hardcore religious Christian adult but your using my "weaknesses" ( age, experience ) and call me all kinds of unneeded words.
OK and it is impossible for me to be good? I cannot do good things simply because I do not believe in god? Simply because I have an opinion that does not agree with your opinion, which is based on something that is only about good? Christians are made to think that any atheist, whoever he is, he's a stupid evil person. But that's exactly like accusing the whole black race of being thieves. The difference is that the example is totally racist and the first statement is a completely normal thing for any Christian.

I didn't ignore anything, if so ask me again I will answer anything. If I missed it, that's only because I had a lot more posts to get to.

You almost ignored this, well, using your "style".

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Wow and you think I am expressing anger? How am I supposed to understand the caps lock? I can see, so stop doing that. Back to topic... Yes, you are partly right, I do not honor the sabbath day. But again it goes back to your story. Honoring the sabbath day is a part of the bible. And I do not believe in the bible. I think it's nonsense that you have to honor a day. True, I cannot prove that the days aren't accurate, it was just my guess. But I see how you go all out of your mind and excited how I fucked up and didn't provide proof. Lol at least I didn't ignore your post and reply, UNLIKE SOMEONE. The bible a made up story and so is the think with honoring the sabbath day.

How does my parents religion matter? I've already mentioned it. And I wasn't insulting, "I just have a quick reaction to bullshit". No but seriously it's either your dumb or you cannot simply deal with the fact that you have to agree with me. Because IT IS COMMON SENSE, there is NO-WAY to deny what I have said. I am telling you, it is true (I'm referring to my post above your answer).

So now you are saying you are your god, like devil worshipers believe. Finally you admit what I've been trying to tell you for over a year now. 6=man, 7=god.. 6+7=man becoming God on earth and doing what ever they want to because they feel they are god.. Seems like you're pretty far over that bridge of becoming a devil worshiper. You see that's why when we get a lot of money, we spend so much on ourselves as gifts to us. We are worshiping ourselves as God and just how I believe in God you type "you believe in you" and you guide your life. You have the same philosophy as devil worshipers. Once against you're showing a trait of people headed for hell man, wake up.

I'm not saying I am god-like. I am me, I'm just like every other person, it's just that I believe and rely on myself.
So do devil worshipers worship the devil or themselves? Total contradiction man.

[this is what I've been telling you so long, you worship science like hobo and even say the exact same thing he does. You're like a babyhobo, here is his signature that says what you just said above.]

I don't worship science. I don't say the exact same thing he does.

Admitting you're not sure here, Find me a post where I claim to be UNSURE. I'm not putting my trust in a guy like you who is UNSURE. JUST FORGET ABOUT THAT UNSURE MAN.

Of course I'm admitting it, because it is true. It is completely normal to be unsure because I cannot find any solid proof on any version. And I won't bother searching for a post where you say that you're unsure, because I won't found it. And that does not make you smart, that makes you ignorant. Think about it, you're dedicating your whole life on something that your parents told you when you were young, having no proper reason, it's like "tradition". And now you're soooo confident about it, so sure that god exists and that the bible is real. But you have no proof, no solid arguments, just that opinion and "EXPERIENCE".

Experience > Opinions

Your experience is made out of your opinion. And it's just "experience", you haven't experienced anything real, just illusions, your mind playing tricks on you.

The same works backwards, we have a topic called "Prove a God doesn't exist" and its a million pages long and no satanist proved God didn't exist. I laughed as they tried. You guys got so desperate you forgot the title and started asking for proof he DID exist because you guys had NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I won't quote all of those exclamation marks, but I see that you worked pretty hard on them. You wasted a bunch of your negative emotions on them and in the end they came out pretty useless. You just showed us your childish side.
As far as I'm concerned the topic was supposed to be called "Proof a god doesn't exist". But Poskok's grammar isn't that good so we can't blame him for that. And you shouldn't be laughing, because nobody actually tried, only you did. You tried to prove that god exists with all those long-ass posts with so called "proof". You didn't prove anything, neither did we. We stayed at the same point as we started, the difference between now and then is that we have a better image of each other and we know a little bit more. But we still believe in what we believed, nothing changed.
Also, you think you have bible and miracles as proof. Think again, those things aren't proven, they are just written and told by people, which isn't enough.

everything I said is not based on the bible but most of it is BACKED UP by the bible and that's what pissed you off. You agree the illuminati exist which the bible is the reason people know about them. You believe in certain parts of the bible and that scares you because you know Jesus is a part of the bible and he must be true too. I know.

Tell me how the bible uses the illuminati for its good

They exist, they control this earth and the bible warns of their evil plans.. Face it the illuminati is BAD and the bible says they are BAD.. We are against them. The only way you can see the bible and christians as bad is if you are a devil worshiper/illuminati yourself.

You say "Illuminati controls this world for a very long time"

God says

2nd Corinthians 4:4, Satan is the god of this world


Once again you agree with the bible, that they control this world as devil worshipers and God says the devil controls this world. Good so you do know.

No, the bible does not speak of the Illuminati, it speaks of evil. Evil can be anything: it can be a person, a supernatural being, a feeling, a group of people, anything you want. And you should expect to see good and evil in the bible, that's like expecting a good end in a classic American movie. Satan is not the Illuminati. Satan is a made up character. Illuminati is an organisation. Two different things.

Jesus is God, of course things he do sound hard to explain to an average joe sitting on the couch eating potato chips bro.

Matthew 19:26 - Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."

You are thinking of Jesus as just a regular guy, and hes NOT! He is Lord of lord, king of kings. None can come to the father but through him. With out Jesus there is no heaven in your future. Case Closed.

No, the case is NOT closed. It is all possible within a person. It's just that belief makes it all easier for man to accomplish.
And may I ask who are you referring to as the couch potato? Me?

But God teaches us that the illuminati are bad, and that they are controlled by the devil.. If God was on there side why would he speak out AGAINST THEM? Come on man you talk all this common sense crap but you turn that function on and off.. KEEP IT ON. GOD IS AGAINST THE ILLUMINATI/DEVIL WORSHIPERS. The whole bible warns of them and they're tactics and future plans to fully control earth and create the one world religion of satan worship. I won't be to tough on ya here because you didn't read the bible and therefore you don't understand how much Jesus is AGAINST evil.

No, your so called "god" (aka the bible) tells you that being evil is bad, that satan is bad. Yes, I believe that those characters in the bible are against evil, now, for example, Spiderman is a superhero, he saves people.

There is no normal person if so name me one................... OK I THOUGHT SO.


You agree we have a GOOD and EVIL side, YOU SAID THAT... What makes you think you can kill that evil side all alone? Only Jesus can do that for you and with that evil side attached to your soul you cannot enter heaven.

So you're saying that there are no normal people on earth? Wow, that tells even more about you.
The evil and the good side are nothing but human emotions, human behavior. Everyone has them. And so do you, both.

Name me 5 of them...................... OK I THOUGHT SO.

Its logical because Jesus is God in human form. He was sent by God to die for our sins and give us a better chance into heaven by leaving his holy spirit and he experienced what we have to, BUT WORSE as humans and can be a very fair judge unlike any other. We are born with Good and Evil in us.. When you choose God you kill your EVIL side. When you choose the devil, you kill you're GOOD side.. I should that in the Beyonce video "crazy in love" shes in a pretty dress and then she gets in a car and jay z lights it on fire and it explodes killed her GOOD side.... She is alter seen dressed like a slut in all black as a symbol that she killed her GOOD side and is now a worker for the devil.

So basically what you're saying here is that I have a bad side. And a bad side wouldn't have good in it, would it? Therefore, I am pure evil, correct?

Nonsense.

Its not about being BETTER. That's your mistake right there.. Ever heard the saying "Honesty is the best Policy".. God is the truth and he's the only reasonable choice unless you are truly evil. The truth is the BEST, Case closed.

You should do research on all of the religions for yourself and stop being lazy. I did research for the lazy people and the truth hurt them very badly. It wasn't my intention but sometimes the truth hurts.

If you don't have faith in Jesus he won't show up for you, he's always showed up for me and blessed me.

Matthew 17:20 - "You don't have enough faith," Jesus told them. "I tell you the truth, if you had faith even as small as a mustard seed, you could say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it would move. Nothing would be impossible."

You actually think you've researched all religions? There are tons of them for you to research and some of them might turn out to be better than Christianity, who knows. The point is that they can't all be true. And out of all of them, you choose Christianity so confidently and without any proper reasons, which is stupid, really. Think about it.
He hasn't "blessed you", you blessed yourself. Unfortunately, it's ineffective, because you made it up in your head.

[Juice.]

you better not post them games and show whats influencing your life. You can say what it does to you but you don't even know God exist so your word on what a game can do to you is USELESS. This is like explaining Linear Algebra to a first grader. You're so far behind that I have to go back to when I was 2 years old to speak with you. Its not a bad thing but your parents didn't know better. God says train them up in the way they should go, So when they get older they will not depart from it. Since your parents didn't train you up right I can't expect good results. If you want to believe these illuminati members spent billions of dollars on MK ULTRA to learn how to brainwash ALL HUMANS, and it didn't work then you're more ignorant than I could have ever imagined.

I know what your ideas are and what you believe in, so I have all the right and capability to say whether or not a game can influence me. And it actually has nothing to do with god, it's all psychological.
It's funny to hear you insulting me and talking all smart as if I am way out of your league. I'm in a discussion with you for quite a while and quite frankly you haven't impressed me, I've just found out that people can actually be blind while they have the ability to see. And you know absolutely nothing about me, my family or my lifestyle. So making accusations and saying that I am this and that, I am surrounded by these and those, is far beyond stupid and ignorant. You know better than that. Or..?


I'm not insulting you or trying to impress you, but if I was to be impressed by either of us it would be the guy who posts more than word. Which is me.

we learn a few things in this post. You do bad things, you're stupid, but that's normal. You're human, everyone has a good and a evil side until they get Jesus. You believe you show your good side more which is an opinion and not a smart opinion because to know that I need to speak with people that have to deal with you in real life, of course you will tell me you're a goody good boy, genius. The devil tells his followers they are good without God which is a lie. I believe you may think you're doing good because in your thoughts "when the devil talks to you" hes saying you're perfect. In his eyes, headed for hell is perfect, he would love to burn off your private parts for eternity. Right before dumping your body in the lake of fire only to bring you back to hell to repeat that forever.

Again insulting me without a proper reason. Don't get me wrong, I'm not offended that easily, but coming from you it sounds strange and kinda stupid. You're that hardcore religious Christian adult but your using my "weaknesses" ( age, experience ) and call me all kinds of unneeded words.
OK and it is impossible for me to be good? I cannot do good things simply because I do not believe in god? Simply because I have an opinion that does not agree with your opinion, which is based on something that is only about good? Christians are made to think that any atheist, whoever he is, he's a stupid evil person. But that's exactly like accusing the whole black race of being thieves. The difference is that the example is totally racist and the first statement is a completely normal thing for any Christian.

Read your original post again you called yourself those things and I simply stated what you told me about yourself. You insulted yourself.

You can do good things without accepting God but you will also do bad things which I already named just a few you agree to and I DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU and you were caught breaking laws.

I don't think atheists are stupid evil people, They are misguided people who have been taught to follow the devils ways of life without knowing it. That's why you admit to doing bad/evil then you switch and say you are good because you don't know what you're talking about. You have been misguided.

And you telling me whats a normal thing for a christian to say is stupid. Yes I said stupid because you haven't talked to enough Christians to know squat about them.

I didn't ignore anything, if so ask me again I will answer anything. If I missed it, that's only because I had a lot more posts to get to.

You almost ignored this, well, using your "style".

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Wow and you think I am expressing anger? How am I supposed to understand the caps lock? I can see, so stop doing that. Back to topic... Yes, you are partly right, I do not honor the sabbath day. But again it goes back to your story. Honoring the sabbath day is a part of the bible. And I do not believe in the bible. I think it's nonsense that you have to honor a day. True, I cannot prove that the days aren't accurate, it was just my guess. But I see how you go all out of your mind and excited how I fucked up and didn't provide proof. Lol at least I didn't ignore your post and reply, UNLIKE SOMEONE. The bible a made up story and so is the think with honoring the sabbath day.

Already replied to this.

How does my parents religion matter? Because they raised you, they are the reason you are misguided because they didn't work with you like they should have. They didn't train you to be a good, loving, caring, respectful, mature person so you get online and prove it. I've already mentioned it. And I wasn't insulting, "I just have a quick reaction to bullshit". No but seriously it's either your dumb or you cannot simply deal with the fact that you have to agree with me. Because IT IS COMMON SENSE, there is NO-WAY to deny what I have said. I am telling you, it is true (I'm referring to my post above your answer).

Now who's forcing something on someone? I have to agree with you? lol you're done. The devil can't have my soul, tell him I said that.

So now you are saying you are your god, like devil worshipers believe. Finally you admit what I've been trying to tell you for over a year now. 6=man, 7=god.. 6+7=man becoming God on earth and doing what ever they want to because they feel they are god.. Seems like you're pretty far over that bridge of becoming a devil worshiper. You see that's why when we get a lot of money, we spend so much on ourselves as gifts to us. We are worshiping ourselves as God and just how I believe in God you type "you believe in you" and you guide your life. You have the same philosophy as devil worshipers. Once against you're showing a trait of people headed for hell man, wake up.

I'm not saying I am god-like. I am me, I'm just like every other person, it's just that I believe and rely on myself.
So do devil worshipers worship the devil or themselves? Total contradiction man.

Read my friend read. 6=man, 7=God.. 13 = man becoming God on earth and relying on himself. You live like the free masons/devil worshipers. You can say you are not one because you don't bow to a pyramid and wear horns BUT as you just stated you now know you think, act and live like a devil worshiper. The side you're leaning towards is clear.

[this is what I've been telling you so long, you worship science like hobo and even say the exact same thing he does. You're like a babyhobo, here is his signature that says what you just said above.]

I don't worship science. I don't say the exact same thing he does.

You know I'm telling the truth, You don't have to admit it for me to know you know it.

Admitting you're not sure here, Find me a post where I claim to be UNSURE. I'm not putting my trust in a guy like you who is UNSURE. JUST FORGET ABOUT THAT UNSURE MAN.

Of course I'm admitting it, because it is true. It is completely normal to be unsure because I cannot find any solid proof on any version. And I won't bother searching for a post where you say that you're unsure, because I won't found it. And that does not make you smart, that makes you ignorant. Think about it, you're dedicating your whole life on something that your parents told you when you were young, having no proper reason, it's like "tradition". And now you're soooo confident about it, so sure that god exists and that the bible is real. But you have no proof, no solid arguments, just that opinion and "EXPERIENCE".

My parent gave me a choice. They taught me right from wrong. One of my parents was a christian the other had no faith. I seen both sides of my choices and I choose the Good side. I'm not unsure of anything because I know who ym God is and I know who my enemy is. If you're were on the battlefield right now you wouldn't know if to shoot your sergeant or your enemy. That's just as far as being unsure gets you, LOST in the sauce.

Since you are unsure about what you say, and I am sure about what I say.. Then why would I ever take your advice? You're not even sure if its good advice.. Think man think.

You speak with a mind that hasn't been through things to know any better. Its not a bad thing but you say you are unsure but then you are somehow POSITIVE what I have to say is false... I honestly hate when people do that!!! Its so IMMATURE!! and IGNORANT.. I say blue is the best color, then you say "No it's not" then I say "ok then, what is?" and you reply with the immature "I don't know but its not blue".. Growwwww up

Experience > Opinions

Your experience is made out of your opinion. And it's just "experience", you haven't experienced anything real, just illusions, your mind playing tricks on you.

Tell the devil I said he's a liar and to leave your mind alone.

The same works backwards, we have a topic called "Prove a God doesn't exist" and its a million pages long and no satanist proved God didn't exist. I laughed as they tried. You guys got so desperate you forgot the title and started asking for proof he DID exist because you guys had NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I won't quote all of those exclamation marks, but I see that you worked pretty hard on them. You wasted a bunch of your negative emotions on them and in the end they came out pretty useless. You just showed us your childish side.
As far as I'm concerned the topic was supposed to be called "Proof a god doesn't exist". But Poskok's grammar isn't that good so we can't blame him for that. And you shouldn't be laughing, because nobody actually tried, only you did. You tried to prove that god exists with all those long-ass posts with so called "proof". You didn't prove anything, neither did we. We stayed at the same point as we started, the difference between now and then is that we have a better image of each other and we know a little bit more. But we still believe in what we believed, nothing changed.
Also, you think you have bible and miracles as proof. Think again, those things aren't proven, they are just written and told by people, which isn't enough.

once again you speak from lack of experience, I'm a walking talking miracle! I should be dead right now but I'm on the pc typing to you because God allowed me to live through the day I almost died. You never been there so I can't expect you to understand.

everything I said is not based on the bible but most of it is BACKED UP by the bible and that's what pissed you off. You agree the illuminati exist which the bible is the reason people know about them. You believe in certain parts of the bible and that scares you because you know Jesus is a part of the bible and he must be true too. I know.

Tell me how the bible uses the illuminati for its good

They exist, they control this earth and the bible warns of their evil plans.. Face it the illuminati is BAD and the bible says they are BAD.. We are against them. The only way you can see the bible and christians as bad is if you are a devil worshiper/illuminati yourself.

You say "Illuminati controls this world for a very long time"

God says

2nd Corinthians 4:4, Satan is the god of this world


Once again you agree with the bible, that they control this world as devil worshipers and God says the devil controls this world. Good so you do know.

No, the bible does not speak of the Illuminati, it speaks of evil. Evil can be anything: it can be a person, a supernatural being, a feeling, a group of people, anything you want. And you should expect to see good and evil in the bible, that's like expecting a good end in a classic American movie. Satan is not the Illuminati. Satan is a made up character. Illuminati is an organisation. Two different things.

The bible clearly states that the name of this evil group goes by the number "666".. get your facts together before you speak about the bible because you are making this one sided again. Come on man! at least try to bring facts when you type. You are a lazy debater and that's why your posts seem so weak.

Jesus is God, of course things he do sound hard to explain to an average joe sitting on the couch eating potato chips bro.

Matthew 19:26 - Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."

You are thinking of Jesus as just a regular guy, and hes NOT! He is Lord of lord, king of kings. None can come to the father but through him. With out Jesus there is no heaven in your future. Case Closed.

No, the case is NOT closed. It is all possible within a person. It's just that belief makes it all easier for man to accomplish.
And may I ask who are you referring to as the couch potato? Me?

I never used that term but it is a funny term you're a regular guy right? you love telling me how you're normal. You are a average joe in shorter terms. If you can't drive a car, why would I take your advice sir? you have to learn before you can teach.

But God teaches us that the illuminati are bad, and that they are controlled by the devil.. If God was on there side why would he speak out AGAINST THEM? Come on man you talk all this common sense crap but you turn that function on and off.. KEEP IT ON. GOD IS AGAINST THE ILLUMINATI/DEVIL WORSHIPERS. The whole bible warns of them and they're tactics and future plans to fully control earth and create the one world religion of satan worship. I won't be to tough on ya here because you didn't read the bible and therefore you don't understand how much Jesus is AGAINST evil.

No, your so called "god" (aka the bible) tells you that being evil is bad, that satan is bad. Yes, I believe that those characters in the bible are against evil, now, for example, Spiderman is a superhero, he saves people.

Grow up.

There is no normal person if so name me one................... OK I THOUGHT SO.


You agree we have a GOOD and EVIL side, YOU SAID THAT... What makes you think you can kill that evil side all alone? Only Jesus can do that for you and with that evil side attached to your soul you cannot enter heaven.

So you're saying that there are no normal people on earth? Wow, that tells even more about you.
The evil and the good side are nothing but human emotions, human behavior. Everyone has them. And so do you, both.

I thought you don't do bad any more, so now you also LIE. I'll keep that in mind.

Name me 5 of them...................... OK I THOUGHT SO.

Its logical because Jesus is God in human form. He was sent by God to die for our sins and give us a better chance into heaven by leaving his holy spirit and he experienced what we have to, BUT WORSE as humans and can be a very fair judge unlike any other. We are born with Good and Evil in us.. When you choose God you kill your EVIL side. When you choose the devil, you kill you're GOOD side.. I should that in the Beyonce video "crazy in love" shes in a pretty dress and then she gets in a car and jay z lights it on fire and it explodes killed her GOOD side.... She is alter seen dressed like a slut in all black as a symbol that she killed her GOOD side and is now a worker for the devil.

So basically what you're saying here is that I have a bad side. And a bad side wouldn't have good in it, would it? Therefore, I am pure evil, correct?

Nonsense.


No I never said that. its strange you say posk can't type and then you show me you can't read.

Before we get Jesus we contain a GOOD and a BAD side.. The knowledge to do good, knowledge to do bad. The one that you choose to be as a grown up determines where you spend eternity.

Its not about being BETTER. That's your mistake right there.. Ever heard the saying "Honesty is the best Policy".. God is the truth and he's the only reasonable choice unless you are truly evil. The truth is the BEST, Case closed.

You should do research on all of the religions for yourself and stop being lazy. I did research for the lazy people and the truth hurt them very badly. It wasn't my intention but sometimes the truth hurts.

If you don't have faith in Jesus he won't show up for you, he's always showed up for me and blessed me.

Matthew 17:20 - "You don't have enough faith," Jesus told them. "I tell you the truth, if you had faith even as small as a mustard seed, you could say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it would move. Nothing would be impossible."

You actually think you've researched all religions? There are tons of them for you to research and some of them might turn out to be better than Christianity, who knows. YOU DON'T KNOW BECAUSE YOU'RE AFRAID TO RESEARCH ANY. The point is that they can't all be true. And out of all of them, you choose Christianity so confidently and without any proper reasons, which is stupid, really. Think about it. I have experienced things you have not young man. You still have growing to do man. I'm done growing. I'm grown and what you've been through has kept you away from truth! Until you found GTA online which would eventually turn out to be where you found truth. Sure Its tough to accept it because its easier to live the lie we're taught as babies but one day you have to grow up and make the choice, mommy can't help you.
He hasn't "blessed you", you blessed yourself. Unfortunately, it's ineffective, because you made it up in your head.

Jesus loves you just like he loves me, He died for me and you so we wouldn't have to go to hell. What you do with your free will is up to you. I told you what I'm doing with mine. I'm choosing Jesus.

[alberto2011]

i posted this a month ago and still no answer....

fuck this look i dont have faith or any belief on god nor ur little jesus christ so stop boosting ur posts damn it.

[Reda]

i posted this a month ago and still no answer....

fuck this look i dont have faith or any belief on god nor ur little jesus christ so stop boosting ur posts damn it.

Lol ur asking about religion on a game forum? seems legit! if someone cant 'answer' youre question the whole & all religion fails?
seems legit.

[alberto2011]

i posted this a month ago and still no answer....

fuck this look i dont have faith or any belief on god nor ur little jesus christ so stop boosting ur posts damn it.

Lol ur asking about religion on a game forum? seems legit! if someone cant 'answer' youre question the whole & all religion fails?
seems legit.

you guys are the ones that hard core believers inform me then shit. like the other day you sent me a pm wat de fuk and i was like wtf? i think ur pm was about me not beliving or someshit?

[Reda]

write normal i cant read street language

[Sk1pper]

you better not post them games and show whats influencing your life. You can say what it does to you but you don't even know God exist so your word on what a game can do to you is USELESS. This is like explaining Linear Algebra to a first grader. You're so far behind that I have to go back to when I was 2 years old to speak with you. Its not a bad thing but your parents didn't know better. God says train them up in the way they should go, So when they get older they will not depart from it. Since your parents didn't train you up right I can't expect good results. If you want to believe these illuminati members spent billions of dollars on MK ULTRA to learn how to brainwash ALL HUMANS, and it didn't work then you're more ignorant than I could have ever imagined.

I know what your ideas are and what you believe in, so I have all the right and capability to say whether or not a game can influence me. And it actually has nothing to do with god, it's all psychological.
It's funny to hear you insulting me and talking all smart as if I am way out of your league. I'm in a discussion with you for quite a while and quite frankly you haven't impressed me, I've just found out that people can actually be blind while they have the ability to see. And you know absolutely nothing about me, my family or my lifestyle. So making accusations and saying that I am this and that, I am surrounded by these and those, is far beyond stupid and ignorant. You know better than that. Or..?


I'm not insulting you or trying to impress you, but if I was to be impressed by either of us it would be the guy who posts more than word. Which is me.

we learn a few things in this post. You do bad things, you're stupid, but that's normal. You're human, everyone has a good and a evil side until they get Jesus. You believe you show your good side more which is an opinion and not a smart opinion because to know that I need to speak with people that have to deal with you in real life, of course you will tell me you're a goody good boy, genius. The devil tells his followers they are good without God which is a lie. I believe you may think you're doing good because in your thoughts "when the devil talks to you" hes saying you're perfect. In his eyes, headed for hell is perfect, he would love to burn off your private parts for eternity. Right before dumping your body in the lake of fire only to bring you back to hell to repeat that forever.

Again insulting me without a proper reason. Don't get me wrong, I'm not offended that easily, but coming from you it sounds strange and kinda stupid. You're that hardcore religious Christian adult but your using my "weaknesses" ( age, experience ) and call me all kinds of unneeded words.
OK and it is impossible for me to be good? I cannot do good things simply because I do not believe in god? Simply because I have an opinion that does not agree with your opinion, which is based on something that is only about good? Christians are made to think that any atheist, whoever he is, he's a stupid evil person. But that's exactly like accusing the whole black race of being thieves. The difference is that the example is totally racist and the first statement is a completely normal thing for any Christian.

Read your original post again you called yourself those things and I simply stated what you told me about yourself. You insulted yourself.

You can do good things without accepting God but you will also do bad things which I already named just a few you agree to and I DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU and you were caught breaking laws.

I don't think atheists are stupid evil people, They are misguided people who have been taught to follow the devils ways of life without knowing it. That's why you admit to doing bad/evil then you switch and say you are good because you don't know what you're talking about. You have been misguided.

And you telling me whats a normal thing for a christian to say is stupid. Yes I said stupid because you haven't talked to enough Christians to know squat about them.

I am guessing that Christians have the same way of thinking, because they live how the bible tells them to. All they need is belief and a book that will guide them. It's nothing but a story with an instruction how to live a good life. But you don't need it if you want to live a good life, you can live a good life without a book, without instructions.
I can be good while I do good and bad things. Because everyone has done something bad and good, but you cannot tell me that people are bad simply because they are atheists. You did bad things, I am sure. That's not a blind accusation, that's a regular thing because all of us do bad things, it is normal. It's just important for us to change and avoid doing that again.

I didn't ignore anything, if so ask me again I will answer anything. If I missed it, that's only because I had a lot more posts to get to.

You almost ignored this, well, using your "style".

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Wow and you think I am expressing anger? How am I supposed to understand the caps lock? I can see, so stop doing that. Back to topic... Yes, you are partly right, I do not honor the sabbath day. But again it goes back to your story. Honoring the sabbath day is a part of the bible. And I do not believe in the bible. I think it's nonsense that you have to honor a day. True, I cannot prove that the days aren't accurate, it was just my guess. But I see how you go all out of your mind and excited how I fucked up and didn't provide proof. Lol at least I didn't ignore your post and reply, UNLIKE SOMEONE. The bible a made up story and so is the think with honoring the sabbath day.

Already replied to this.

How does my parents religion matter? Because they raised you, they are the reason you are misguided because they didn't work with you like they should have. They didn't train you to be a good, loving, caring, respectful, mature person so you get online and prove it.
How do you know that I am not a good, loving, caring, respectful, mature person? You cannot say that I am loving [ or not ] simply by looking at the way I type. You have to know me in real life, which you don't. You have that image of atheists like me and you know that they cannot be good, loving or respectful. You think that they are full of negative characteristics. And again you accuse a large amount of people. I've already mentioned it. And I wasn't insulting, "I just have a quick reaction to bullshit". No but seriously it's either your dumb or you cannot simply deal with the fact that you have to agree with me. Because IT IS COMMON SENSE, there is NO-WAY to deny what I have said. I am telling you, it is true (I'm referring to my post above your answer).

Now who's forcing something on someone? I have to agree with you? lol you're done. The devil can't have my soul, tell him I said that.
Wow you actually think that I talk to the devil? Seriously?

So now you are saying you are your god, like devil worshipers believe. Finally you admit what I've been trying to tell you for over a year now. 6=man, 7=god.. 6+7=man becoming God on earth and doing what ever they want to because they feel they are god.. Seems like you're pretty far over that bridge of becoming a devil worshiper. You see that's why when we get a lot of money, we spend so much on ourselves as gifts to us. We are worshiping ourselves as God and just how I believe in God you type "you believe in you" and you guide your life. You have the same philosophy as devil worshipers. Once against you're showing a trait of people headed for hell man, wake up.

I'm not saying I am god-like. I am me, I'm just like every other person, it's just that I believe and rely on myself.
So do devil worshipers worship the devil or themselves? Total contradiction man.

Read my friend read. 6=man, 7=God.. 13 = man becoming God on earth and relying on himself. You live like the free masons/devil worshipers. You can say you are not one because you don't bow to a pyramid and wear horns BUT as you just stated you now know you think, act and live like a devil worshiper. The side you're leaning towards is clear.
I did not state that I think, act and live like a devil worshiper, where the hell did you come up with that from? How is BELIEVING in yourself, TRUSTING in yourself, RELYING on myself is bad? Dude, your telling me total bullshit right here now. Are you serious with this? No, really, I'm having a hard time to reply to you right now, because it's total nonsense.

[this is what I've been telling you so long, you worship science like hobo and even say the exact same thing he does. You're like a babyhobo, here is his signature that says what you just said above.]

I don't worship science. I don't say the exact same thing he does.

You know I'm telling the truth, You don't have to admit it for me to know you know it.
What are you trying to achieve with that? I'm not gonna tell you something you wanna hear. I completely disagree with you because in my opinion what you're saying is bullshit. I mean come on if the bible wouldn't exist, you wouldn't be here, you'd have nothing to say. And that tells a lot, because that is your weakness. If I would tell you not to use knowledge from the bible, not to use it in any way or refer to it in a discussion, could you answer me? I doubt that.

Admitting you're not sure here, Find me a post where I claim to be UNSURE. I'm not putting my trust in a guy like you who is UNSURE. JUST FORGET ABOUT THAT UNSURE MAN.

Of course I'm admitting it, because it is true. It is completely normal to be unsure because I cannot find any solid proof on any version. And I won't bother searching for a post where you say that you're unsure, because I won't found it. And that does not make you smart, that makes you ignorant. Think about it, you're dedicating your whole life on something that your parents told you when you were young, having no proper reason, it's like "tradition". And now you're soooo confident about it, so sure that god exists and that the bible is real. But you have no proof, no solid arguments, just that opinion and "EXPERIENCE".

My parent gave me a choice. They taught me right from wrong. One of my parents was a christian the other had no faith. I seen both sides of my choices and I choose the Good side. I'm not unsure of anything because I know who ym God is and I know who my enemy is. If you're were on the battlefield right now you wouldn't know if to shoot your sergeant or your enemy. That's just as far as being unsure gets you, LOST in the sauce.

Since you are unsure about what you say, and I am sure about what I say.. Then why would I ever take your advice? You're not even sure if its good advice.. Think man think.

You speak with a mind that hasn't been through things to know any better. Its not a bad thing but you say you are unsure but then you are somehow POSITIVE what I have to say is false... I honestly hate when people do that!!! Its so IMMATURE!! and IGNORANT.. I say blue is the best color, then you say "No it's not" then I say "ok then, what is?" and you reply with the immature "I don't know but its not blue".. Growwwww up
Grow up? I could tell you this same thing and I-don't-care how old you are you're acting god damn childish and ignorant. I mean come on what the hell is with this "unsure stuff"? I gave a CLEAR reason why I am unsure, but no you're like a broken record and you keep on repeating the same thing. I get it what you're trying to say, but don't ignore what I mean by saying unsure. I'll make it easier for you:
THERE IS NO SOLID PROOF THAT YOUR THEORY IS TRUE.
THERE IS NO SOLID PROOF THAT MY THEORY IS TRUE.
I, THINKING WITH A CLEAR, SANE AND SOBER MIND, DECIDE TO SUPPORT THE THEORY THAT SOUNDS MORE BELIEVABLE.
YOU, ON THE OTHER HAND, DECIDE TO SUPPORT THE ONE THAT WAS TOLD TO YOU BY YOUR PARENTS WHEN YOU WERE A CHILD, HOWEVER, THERE IS ZERO PROOF THAT IT IS TRUE AND IT IS ALSO LESS BELIEVABLE AND EXTREMELY SUPERSTITIOUS.
Do you see the difference now, is that clear enough?

Experience > Opinions

Your experience is made out of your opinion. And it's just "experience", you haven't experienced anything real, just illusions, your mind playing tricks on you.

Tell the devil I said he's a liar and to leave your mind alone.

The same works backwards, we have a topic called "Prove a God doesn't exist" and its a million pages long and no satanist proved God didn't exist. I laughed as they tried. You guys got so desperate you forgot the title and started asking for proof he DID exist because you guys had NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I won't quote all of those exclamation marks, but I see that you worked pretty hard on them. You wasted a bunch of your negative emotions on them and in the end they came out pretty useless. You just showed us your childish side.
As far as I'm concerned the topic was supposed to be called "Proof a god doesn't exist". But Poskok's grammar isn't that good so we can't blame him for that. And you shouldn't be laughing, because nobody actually tried, only you did. You tried to prove that god exists with all those long-ass posts with so called "proof". You didn't prove anything, neither did we. We stayed at the same point as we started, the difference between now and then is that we have a better image of each other and we know a little bit more. But we still believe in what we believed, nothing changed.
Also, you think you have bible and miracles as proof. Think again, those things aren't proven, they are just written and told by people, which isn't enough.

once again you speak from lack of experience, I'm a walking talking miracle! I should be dead right now but I'm on the pc typing to you because God allowed me to live through the day I almost died. You never been there so I can't expect you to understand.
Then try and make me understand. I don't care If the story's gonna be a page long, I'll read it. But convince me that jesus or god has actually helped you.

everything I said is not based on the bible but most of it is BACKED UP by the bible and that's what pissed you off. You agree the illuminati exist which the bible is the reason people know about them. You believe in certain parts of the bible and that scares you because you know Jesus is a part of the bible and he must be true too. I know.

Tell me how the bible uses the illuminati for its good

They exist, they control this earth and the bible warns of their evil plans.. Face it the illuminati is BAD and the bible says they are BAD.. We are against them. The only way you can see the bible and christians as bad is if you are a devil worshiper/illuminati yourself.

You say "Illuminati controls this world for a very long time"

God says

2nd Corinthians 4:4, Satan is the god of this world


Once again you agree with the bible, that they control this world as devil worshipers and God says the devil controls this world. Good so you do know.

No, the bible does not speak of the Illuminati, it speaks of evil. Evil can be anything: it can be a person, a supernatural being, a feeling, a group of people, anything you want. And you should expect to see good and evil in the bible, that's like expecting a good end in a classic American movie. Satan is not the Illuminati. Satan is a made up character. Illuminati is an organisation. Two different things.

The bible clearly states that the name of this evil group goes by the number "666".. get your facts together before you speak about the bible because you are making this one sided again. Come on man! at least try to bring facts when you type. You are a lazy debater and that's why your posts seem so weak.
Then what are your posts if you can't seem to break my arguments? I mean come on, you haven't convinced nobody around here but yourself.
Illuminati and "an evil group going by the number 666" is not the same. And I would like to see that quote from the bible. I bet it doesn't even mention half of the words you told me.

Jesus is God, of course things he do sound hard to explain to an average joe sitting on the couch eating potato chips bro.

Matthew 19:26 - Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."

You are thinking of Jesus as just a regular guy, and hes NOT! He is Lord of lord, king of kings. None can come to the father but through him. With out Jesus there is no heaven in your future. Case Closed.

No, the case is NOT closed. It is all possible within a person. It's just that belief makes it all easier for man to accomplish.
And may I ask who are you referring to as the couch potato? Me?

I never used that term but it is a funny term you're a regular guy right? you love telling me how you're normal. You are a average joe in shorter terms. If you can't drive a car, why would I take your advice sir? you have to learn before you can teach.
I'm not teaching and I'm not giving you advice. This is a discussion and it would be nice if you would actually take my ideas under consideration before denying them even without a proper reason.

But God teaches us that the illuminati are bad, and that they are controlled by the devil.. If God was on there side why would he speak out AGAINST THEM? Come on man you talk all this common sense crap but you turn that function on and off.. KEEP IT ON. GOD IS AGAINST THE ILLUMINATI/DEVIL WORSHIPERS. The whole bible warns of them and they're tactics and future plans to fully control earth and create the one world religion of satan worship. I won't be to tough on ya here because you didn't read the bible and therefore you don't understand how much Jesus is AGAINST evil.

No, your so called "god" (aka the bible) tells you that being evil is bad, that satan is bad. Yes, I believe that those characters in the bible are against evil, now, for example, Spiderman is a superhero, he saves people.

Grow up.

There is no normal person if so name me one................... OK I THOUGHT SO.


You agree we have a GOOD and EVIL side, YOU SAID THAT... What makes you think you can kill that evil side all alone? Only Jesus can do that for you and with that evil side attached to your soul you cannot enter heaven.

So you're saying that there are no normal people on earth? Wow, that tells even more about you.
The evil and the good side are nothing but human emotions, human behavior. Everyone has them. And so do you, both.

I thought you don't do bad any more, so now you also LIE. I'll keep that in mind.
What?
Name me 5 of them...................... OK I THOUGHT SO.

Its logical because Jesus is God in human form. He was sent by God to die for our sins and give us a better chance into heaven by leaving his holy spirit and he experienced what we have to, BUT WORSE as humans and can be a very fair judge unlike any other. We are born with Good and Evil in us.. When you choose God you kill your EVIL side. When you choose the devil, you kill you're GOOD side.. I should that in the Beyonce video "crazy in love" shes in a pretty dress and then she gets in a car and jay z lights it on fire and it explodes killed her GOOD side.... She is alter seen dressed like a slut in all black as a symbol that she killed her GOOD side and is now a worker for the devil.

So basically what you're saying here is that I have a bad side. And a bad side wouldn't have good in it, would it? Therefore, I am pure evil, correct?

Nonsense.


No I never said that. its strange you say posk can't type and then you show me you can't read.
Please.. Don't.
Before we get Jesus we contain a GOOD and a BAD side.. The knowledge to do good, knowledge to do bad. The one that you choose to be as a grown up determines where you spend eternity.
I choose to do good. I see no damn reason to do bad, I'm no idiot. I don't care what your book says about atheist. I'm not that image that you have in your head about atheists.

Its not about being BETTER. That's your mistake right there.. Ever heard the saying "Honesty is the best Policy".. God is the truth and he's the only reasonable choice unless you are truly evil. The truth is the BEST, Case closed.

You should do research on all of the religions for yourself and stop being lazy. I did research for the lazy people and the truth hurt them very badly. It wasn't my intention but sometimes the truth hurts.

If you don't have faith in Jesus he won't show up for you, he's always showed up for me and blessed me.

Matthew 17:20 - "You don't have enough faith," Jesus told them. "I tell you the truth, if you had faith even as small as a mustard seed, you could say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it would move. Nothing would be impossible."

You actually think you've researched all religions? There are tons of them for you to research and some of them might turn out to be better than Christianity, who knows. YOU DON'T KNOW BECAUSE YOU'RE AFRAID TO RESEARCH ANY. I could say the exact same thing to you. And I'm not interested in religion, it's a waste of time.The point is that they can't all be true. And out of all of them, you choose Christianity so confidently and without any proper reasons, which is stupid, really. Think about it. I have experienced things you have not young man. You still have growing to do man. I'm done growing. I'm grown and what you've been through has kept you away from truth! Until you found GTA online which would eventually turn out to be where you found truth. Sure Its tough to accept it because its easier to live the lie we're taught as babies but one day you have to grow up and make the choice, mommy can't help you.
You see, you think we were taught a lie as babies, that's exactly what I think. We were told pretty much the exact thing, but I chose not to believe in that crap and you did. Now you think that you were told truth as you were a baby and I think I was told a lie. It's easy to tell a baby something he has no knowledge of, but it is hard to convince him otherwise when he has grown up.
He hasn't "blessed you", you blessed yourself. Unfortunately, it's ineffective, because you made it up in your head.

Jesus loves you just like he loves me, He died for me and you so we wouldn't have to go to hell. What you do with your free will is up to you. I told you what I'm doing with mine. I'm choosing Jesus.
He died for people that didn't even exist yet? And he loves me without a reason? Dude your stories make so much sense.
Oh and I am choosing common sense and a normal life with no brainwashing material.

[Juice.]

I am guessing ASSUMING that Christians have the same way of thinking, because they live how the bible tells them to. All they need is belief and a book that will guide them. It's nothing but a story with an instruction how to live a good life. But you don't need it if you want to live a good life, you can live a good life without a book, without instructions. thats what devil worshipers believe, and you too, no surprise. You even admit to doing BAD things so the devil has really got you blind folded.
I can be good while I do good and bad things. Go google the word Good, what you typed is STUPID. matter of fact you're too lazy to do that so here ya go young grass hopper.

Good - Being positive or desirable in nature; not bad or poor

NOT BAD NOT BAD NOT BAD NOT BAD NOT BAD NOT BAD NOT BAD NOT BAD NOT BAD NOT BAD READ!!!!

You type some idiotic things man, Next thing you going to tell me you had dry wet cereal while drinking hot cold orange juice out of a plastic glass metal card board airplane invisible visible army tank cup. You're a walking talking contradiction. An unsure one at that.

Because everyone has done something bad and good, but you cannot tell me that people are bad simply because they are atheists.[/color] I never said that. You did bad things,[PAST TENSE] I am sure. That's not a blind accusation, that's a regular thing because all of us do bad things, it is normal. It's just important for us to change and avoid doing that again.[/color]

See I DID bad things before you DO bad things. You have not changed because without Jesus you will always do bad things and can never be 100% good. At least you finally admit that though.

I didn't ignore anything, if so ask me again I will answer anything. If I missed it, that's only because I had a lot more posts to get to.

You almost ignored this, well, using your "style".

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Wow and you think I am expressing anger? How am I supposed to understand the caps lock? I can see, so stop doing that. Back to topic... Yes, you are partly right, I do not honor the sabbath day. But again it goes back to your story. Honoring the sabbath day is a part of the bible. And I do not believe in the bible. I think it's nonsense that you have to honor a day. True, I cannot prove that the days aren't accurate, it was just my guess. But I see how you go all out of your mind and excited how I fucked up and didn't provide proof. Lol at least I didn't ignore your post and reply, UNLIKE SOMEONE. The bible a made up story and so is the think with honoring the sabbath day.

Already replied to this.

How does my parents religion matter? Because they raised you, they are the reason you are misguided because they didn't work with you like they should have. They didn't train you to be a good, loving, caring, respectful, mature person so you get online and prove it.
How do you know that I am not a good, loving, caring, respectful, mature person? You cannot say that I am loving [ or not ] simply by looking at the way I type. You have to know me in real life, which you don't. You have that image of atheists like me and you know that they cannot be good, loving or respectful. You think that they are full of negative characteristics. That's true for many but up above you agreed. And again you accuse a large amount of people. I've already mentioned it. And I wasn't insulting, "I just have a quick reaction to bullshit". No but seriously it's either your dumb or you cannot simply deal with the fact that you have to agree with me. Because IT IS COMMON SENSE, there is NO-WAY to deny what I have said. I am telling you, it is true (I'm referring to my post above your answer).

Now who's forcing something on someone? I have to agree with you? lol you're done. The devil can't have my soul, tell him I said that.
Wow you actually think that I talk to the devil? Seriously?

When he says jump you say how high. I'm positive you listen to him as he guides your life, Jesus guides my life. If you don't know who guides your life I'm here to show you who else there is. Only a fool/devil worshiper believes he himself is great enough to guide his own life.

So now you are saying you are your god, like devil worshipers believe. Finally you admit what I've been trying to tell you for over a year now. 6=man, 7=god.. 6+7=man becoming God on earth and doing what ever they want to because they feel they are god.. Seems like you're pretty far over that bridge of becoming a devil worshiper. You see that's why when we get a lot of money, we spend so much on ourselves as gifts to us. We are worshiping ourselves as God and just how I believe in God you type "you believe in you" and you guide your life. You have the same philosophy as devil worshipers. Once against you're showing a trait of people headed for hell man, wake up.

I'm not saying I am god-like. I am me, I'm just like every other person, it's just that I believe and rely on myself.
So do devil worshipers worship the devil or themselves? Total contradiction man.

Read my friend read. 6=man, 7=God.. 13 = man becoming God on earth and relying on himself. You live like the free masons/devil worshipers. You can say you are not one because you don't bow to a pyramid and wear horns BUT as you just stated you now know you think, act and live like a devil worshiper. The side you're leaning towards is clear.
I did not state that I think, act and live like a devil worshiper, where the hell did you come up with that from? How is BELIEVING in yourself, TRUSTING in yourself, RELYING on myself is bad? Dude, your telling me total bullshit right here now. Are you serious with this? No, really, I'm having a hard time to reply to you right now, because it's total nonsense.

I know you're having a hard time, I have to help you from where your parents failed you and its tough but I'll do my best.

[this is what I've been telling you so long, you worship science like hobo and even say the exact same thing he does. You're like a babyhobo, here is his signature that says what you just said above.]

I don't worship science. I don't say the exact same thing he does.

You know I'm telling the truth, You don't have to admit it for me to know you know it.
What are you trying to achieve with that? I'm not gonna tell you something you wanna hear. I completely disagree with you because in my opinion what you're saying is bullshit. I mean come on if the bible wouldn't exist, you wouldn't be here, you'd have nothing to say. And that tells a lot, because that is your weakness. If I would tell you not to use knowledge from the bible, not to use it in any way or refer to it in a discussion, could you answer me? I doubt that.


you're immature, I barely use the bible scriptures around here.. You're simply jealous that all you have is your words and no proof. You speak with no books or any pictures or any videos and you have no point. You never proved anything here. If I didn't have a mission I would have been left this one sided conversation a long time ago. Its not a competition because God has already won.. The losers will choose hell. Name me one of your sources you use that didn't come out that skull of yours. which the devil has power to speak to that skull sitting on your shoulders and you eating it right up like pacman.

Admitting you're not sure here, Find me a post where I claim to be UNSURE. I'm not putting my trust in a guy like you who is UNSURE. JUST FORGET ABOUT THAT UNSURE MAN.

Of course I'm admitting it, because it is true. It is completely normal to be unsure because I cannot find any solid proof on any version. And I won't bother searching for a post where you say that you're unsure, because I won't found it. And that does not make you smart, that makes you ignorant. Think about it, you're dedicating your whole life on something that your parents told you when you were young, having no proper reason, it's like "tradition". And now you're soooo confident about it, so sure that god exists and that the bible is real. But you have no proof, no solid arguments, just that opinion and "EXPERIENCE".

My parent gave me a choice. They taught me right from wrong. One of my parents was a christian the other had no faith. I seen both sides of my choices and I choose the Good side. I'm not unsure of anything because I know who ym God is and I know who my enemy is. If you're were on the battlefield right now you wouldn't know if to shoot your sergeant or your enemy. That's just as far as being unsure gets you, LOST in the sauce.

Since you are unsure about what you say, and I am sure about what I say.. Then why would I ever take your advice? You're not even sure if its good advice.. Think man think.

You speak with a mind that hasn't been through things to know any better. Its not a bad thing but you say you are unsure but then you are somehow POSITIVE what I have to say is false... I honestly hate when people do that!!! Its so IMMATURE!! and IGNORANT.. I say blue is the best color, then you say "No it's not" then I say "ok then, what is?" and you reply with the immature "I don't know but its not blue".. Growwwww up
Grow up? I could tell you this same thing and I-don't-care how old you are you're acting god damn [using God's name in vain] childish and ignorant. I mean come on what the hell is with this "unsure stuff"? I'm starting to feel that anger the devil has fused into you coming out your text. I gave a CLEAR reason why I am unsure, but no you're like a broken record and you keep on repeating the same thing. I get it what you're trying to say, but don't ignore what I mean by saying unsure. I'll make it easier for you:
THERE IS NO SOLID PROOF THAT YOUR THEORY IS TRUE. False. Its not my theory or a theory at all
THERE IS NO SOLID PROOF THAT MY THEORY IS TRUE. You don't have a theory
I, THINKING WITH A CLEAR, SANE AND SOBER MIND, DECIDE TO SUPPORT THE THEORY THAT SOUNDS MORE BELIEVABLE. I'm thinking with a CLEAR, SANE, SOBER MIND WITH EXPERIENCE
YOU, ON THE OTHER HAND, DECIDE TO SUPPORT THE ONE THAT WAS TOLD TO YOU BY YOUR PARENTS WHEN YOU WERE A CHILD, HOWEVER, THERE IS ZERO PROOF[/color] I only had one christian family member so i got to see both sides of life and as a man I made the right choice, and I'm happy with my choice even if I died today. If you die today you die unsure and that sucks!!!!!!! I'm ready to die for what I believe in, you are unsure and have no reason to die for what you believe in.. You don't believe what you type. You want God to be wrong so bad that you say "I don't what I'm talking about at all but you're wrong too" man if the devil ever had anything to say he'd think like YOU. The tough part is me knowing that and seeing you struggle to tie your shoe laces. THAT IT IS TRUE AND IT IS ALSO LESS BELIEVABLE AND EXTREMELY SUPERSTITIOUS. Then why continue these long drawn out posts with me? It must be something to what I say if you always return batman. If a guy was a idiot and always wrong why would I spend all this time writing to him? That alone lets me know you don't believe what I say is crap because you'll be back to deny it, not because you don't believe what I type.. its because you don't want to believe what I type but with extreme begging as seen in this post you want me to prove it to you. That's a good thing though, At least you don't know the truth and just choosing the devil.. The way you are now you are blindly choosing the devil. If you listen to yourself you will see that. it took em awhile to see who i use to worship but when I found out I started working to change that.
Do you see the difference now, is that clear enough?

Experience > Opinions

once again you speak from lack of experience, I'm a walking talking miracle! I should be dead right now but I'm on the pc typing to you because God allowed me to live through the day I almost died. You never been there so I can't expect you to understand.
Then try and make me understand. I don't care If the story's gonna be a page long, I'll read it. But convince me that Jesus or God has actually helped you.

Begging^ I have wrote my story here already. I always knew God existed because he blessed my family when we needed it. many of you never been homeless/poor before so its hard to understand. Many of you never lived in the the poorest city in America before, many of you never lived in the hood where you hear shooting 24/7, many of you never seen a driveby in real life. Many of you had it easy and still complain like you had it hard I almost died so I been somewhere you have not. I came back from that ordeal to tell people that the Devil is DEATH, and that God is eternal Life. That in bold is my main purpose here. Like a helper I can only tell you right from wrong, what you do is up to you. I can say don't play on the highway but when I'm gone you may do BAD and break the rule and receive death/hell which is on you and NOT on me.

Now you know my purpose here, what is your purpose here?

everything I said is not based on the bible but most of it is BACKED UP by the bible and that's what pissed you off. You agree the illuminati exist which the bible is the reason people know about them. You believe in certain parts of the bible and that scares you because you know Jesus is a part of the bible and he must be true too. I know.

Tell me how the bible uses the illuminati for its good

They exist, they control this earth and the bible warns of their evil plans.. Face it the illuminati is BAD and the bible says they are BAD.. We are against them. The only way you can see the bible and christians as bad is if you are a devil worshiper/illuminati yourself.

You say "Illuminati controls this world for a very long time"

God says

2nd Corinthians 4:4, Satan is the god of this world


Once again you agree with the bible, that they control this world as devil worshipers and God says the devil controls this world. Good so you do know.

No, the bible does not speak of the Illuminati, it speaks of evil. Evil can be anything: it can be a person, a supernatural being, a feeling, a group of people, anything you want. And you should expect to see good and evil in the bible, that's like expecting a good end in a classic American movie. Satan is not the Illuminati. Satan is a made up character. Illuminati is an organisation. Two different things.

The bible clearly states that the name of this evil group goes by the number "666".. get your facts together before you speak about the bible because you are making this one sided again. Come on man! at least try to bring facts when you type. You are a lazy debater and that's why your posts seem so weak.
Then what are your posts if you can't seem to break my arguments? Your arguments have no information, links, videos, pictures, proof backing them up so they are weak arguments that all came out of the thing sitting on your neck..

I mean come on, you haven't convinced nobody around here but yourself. That's not true at all, many people PM me bro and tell me how I'm doing, or how they learned something. Whens the last time you received that message? oh never? That's pretty much what I figured. Even if that was true it wouldn't be my fault because I put the truth up and people can choose to accept it or deny it but they can't change it. You've never even posted something even barely almost close to proof.
Illuminati and "an evil group going by the number 666" is not the same. You don't need to wake up, your brain is dead and this post proves it. lord help him.


And I would like to see that quote from the bible. I bet it doesn't even mention half of the words you told me. I already posted it and if you want it, google it or search this site and STOP being so lazy. That's why you don't know much of anything now because you're lazy.
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Jesus is God, of course things he do sound hard to explain to an average joe sitting on the couch eating potato chips bro.

Matthew 19:26 - Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."

You are thinking of Jesus as just a regular guy, and hes NOT! He is Lord of lord, king of kings. None can come to the father but through him. With out Jesus there is no heaven in your future. Case Closed.

No, the case is NOT closed. It is all possible within a person. It's just that belief makes it all easier for man to accomplish.
And may I ask who are you referring to as the couch potato? Me?

I never used that term but it is a funny term you're a regular guy right? you love telling me how you're normal. You are a average joe in shorter terms. If you can't drive a car, why would I take your advice sir? you have to learn before you can teach.
I'm not teaching and I'm not giving you advice. This is a discussion and it would be nice if you would actually take my ideas under consideration before denying them even without a proper reason.

Get some proof to back them up first.. btw I know you're not teaching or giving advice because you're not here to help people, you're here to hurt people like the devil wants and whispers into your thoughts all day to do here. The devil is also lazy and won't even give you proof to post.. What a terrible master he is.[/color]

But God teaches us that the illuminati are bad, and that they are controlled by the devil.. If God was on there side why would he speak out AGAINST THEM? Come on man you talk all this common sense crap but you turn that function on and off.. KEEP IT ON. GOD IS AGAINST THE ILLUMINATI/DEVIL WORSHIPERS. The whole bible warns of them and they're tactics and future plans to fully control earth and create the one world religion of satan worship. I won't be to tough on ya here because you didn't read the bible and therefore you don't understand how much Jesus is AGAINST evil.

No, your so called "god" (aka the bible) tells you that being evil is bad, that satan is bad. Yes, I believe that those characters in the bible are against evil, now, for example, Spiderman is a superhero, he saves people.

Grow up.

There is no normal person if so name me one................... OK I THOUGHT SO.


You agree we have a GOOD and EVIL side, YOU SAID THAT... What makes you think you can kill that evil side all alone? Only Jesus can do that for you and with that evil side attached to your soul you cannot enter heaven.

So you're saying that there are no normal people on earth? Wow, that tells even more about you.
The evil and the good side are nothing but human emotions, human behavior. Everyone has them. And so do you, both.

NAME ME 5 NORMAL PEOPLE OR YOU FAIL THIS DISCUSSION AND IT ENDS.

NAME ME 5 NORMAL PEOPLE OR YOU FAIL THIS DISCUSSION AND IT ENDS.

NAME ME 5 NORMAL PEOPLE OR YOU FAIL THIS DISCUSSION AND IT ENDS.

THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO PROVE YOU AREN'T FULL OF CRAP, DO IT OR THE CONVERSATION ENDS.

Its logical because Jesus is God in human form. He was sent by God to die for our sins and give us a better chance into heaven by leaving his holy spirit and he experienced what we have to, BUT WORSE as humans and can be a very fair judge unlike any other. We are born with Good and Evil in us.. When you choose God you kill your EVIL side. When you choose the devil, you kill you're GOOD side.. I should that in the Beyonce video "crazy in love" shes in a pretty dress and then she gets in a car and jay z lights it on fire and it explodes killed her GOOD side.... She is alter seen dressed like a slut in all black as a symbol that she killed her GOOD side and is now a worker for the devil.

So basically what you're saying here is that I have a bad side. And a bad side wouldn't have good in it, would it? Therefore, I am pure evil, correct?

Nonsense.


No I never said that. its strange you say posk can't type and then you show me you can't read.
Please.. Don't.
Before we get Jesus we contain a GOOD and a BAD side.. The knowledge to do good, knowledge to do bad. The one that you choose to be as a grown up determines where you spend eternity.
I choose to do good. I see no damn reason to do bad, I'm no idiot. I don't care what your book says about atheist. I'm not that image that you have in your head about atheists. more cursing, more bad side from you.. I will do a post on cursing soon for you. There are about 3894723697896 scriptures why its bad. I have no image of atheists, I have an image of you and you do so many bad things and admit to them then you tell me you can be good without God. You're brain is dead, you are unsure of what you say because your brain is dead and non existent right now, the devil has a tight grip on you and won't let go until Jesus steps in to save you.

Its not about being BETTER. That's your mistake right there.. Ever heard the saying "Honesty is the best Policy".. God is the truth and he's the only reasonable choice unless you are truly evil. The truth is the BEST, Case closed.

You should do research on all of the religions for yourself and stop being lazy. I did research for the lazy people and the truth hurt them very badly. It wasn't my intention but sometimes the truth hurts.

If you don't have faith in Jesus he won't show up for you, he's always showed up for me and blessed me.

Matthew 17:20 - "You don't have enough faith," Jesus told them. "I tell you the truth, if you had faith even as small as a mustard seed, you could say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it would move. Nothing would be impossible."

You actually think you've researched all religions? There are tons of them for you to research and some of them might turn out to be better than Christianity, who knows. YOU DON'T KNOW BECAUSE YOU'RE AFRAID TO RESEARCH ANY. I could say the exact same thing to you. And I'm not interested in religion, it's a waste of time. Here you are again LYING, look at all the time you spent on this post... NOT TO MENTION YOU ARE MOST ACTIVE IN THE RELIGION FORUM GENIUS. ITS LIKE YOU HAVE A SIGN ON YOUR FACE THAT READS "CALL ME STUPID".. This is religion and you are here and you'll be back to protect what the devil has told you. The point is that they can't all be true. And out of all of them, you choose Christianity so confidently and without any proper reasons, which is stupid, really. Think about it. Whats your chosen religion? Calling my choice stupid is something to expect from a kid to say. I have experienced things you have not young man. You still have growing to do. I'm done growing. I'm grown and what you've been through has kept you away from truth! Until you found GTA online which would eventually turn out to be where you found truth. Sure Its tough to accept it because its easier to live the lie we're taught as babies but one day you have to grow up and make the choice, mommy can't help you.
You see, you think we were taught a lie as babies, [ITS CALLED THE ILLUMINATI] that's exactly what I think. We were told pretty much the exact thing, but I chose not to believe in that crap and you did. So as a baby, you knew they were teaching you illuminati? slap your self every time you type something absolutely stupid. No seriously do it now, so you remember every time you type something stupid you remember the feeling of a slap. Now you think that you were told truth as you were a baby and I think I was told a lie. +1 slap, no we were both told the lie that the devil didn't exist and that we should live a evil/bad life doing what ever we want, we were told to be our own god's like the devil want's. It's easy to tell a baby something he has no knowledge of, but it is hard to convince him otherwise when he has grown up. I agree and in this situation you are STILL a baby.. if I introduce you to a grown woman she will laugh at you and hand you a baby bottle, get real. What religions have you researched? When you become a man you will stop fearing research[hopefully] and learn for your own. Me and you were taught to worship the devil on tv, movies, games, music. I chose to go against the devil and you chose to believe what they told you, that he didn't exist so that you continue a evil life. The devil would rather you not believe in him then for you to believe in Jesus and end up in heaven. Look how much you're willing to type, if you knew truth and was posting it with me the devil would be MADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD! Do you understand how powerful information is? I got people all after me like no other religion is to be taken seriously but Christianity. That shows you that 1 vs 15 is still no match for that 1. There are only 2 routes, I choose God's route. Its simple.
He hasn't "blessed you", you blessed yourself. Unfortunately, it's ineffective, because you made it up in your head.

Jesus loves you just like he loves me, He died for me and you so we wouldn't have to go to hell. What you do with your free will is up to you. I told you what I'm doing with mine. I'm choosing Jesus.
He died for people that didn't even exist yet? And he loves me without a reason? Dude your stories make so much sense.
Oh and I am choosing common sense and a normal life with no brainwashing material.

You still watch/listen to satanic media, you are accepting ALL the brainwashing material. In this long post so far you admit to siding the devil. I already stated why atheist can never be good, its because they still contain that evil side. The only difference between them and devil worshipers is devil worshipers have fully accepted the bad side. Atheists are the confused guys who the devil loves to talk 2 and tell them they are normal, devil says to them they are good without God.. As you see though you admit to doing bad many times and still believe the lie the devil told you that you're good. Good boys don't do bad things. Get that in that skull of yours. For a guy that says religion is a waste of time, you sure will be back to waste more of your time on religion Its clear to see who's calling the shots in your life. Its clear to see who you are under the control of. See ya later Mr. "I'm not interested in religion, it's a waste of time."

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You actually think I am possessed now, don't you? The thing with good and bad stuff... Tell me this if you would meet a person and the first impression would be pretty good. You would chat with him and you'd see only positive things in him, a really nice and polite person. What you'll realise is that he's a good person. You don't need a book to check if someone's good or not. I mean, PLEASE, that is normal human behavior we're talking about. If you'd later find out that the person you met before is an atheist, every single positive thing about him would disappear for you, you'd see him as a completely different person!
You're asking me for proof? Really now? Dude show me what proof you have ever posted. No. I am not asking for proof of the Illuminati or subliminal messages in the media. I am asking for proof of GOD, for proof that the bible is REAL. You have zero of that! And NO miracles do not count. Oh and by the way, your experience is nothing here, because it does not involve god. All it has is you and your family living in tough situations. Then when every thing is so freaking bad you pray and you think that everything will be OK at the end of the day. And when something good happens, THANK YOU GOD. Dude many people thank god even without knowing that he actually helped. Tell me have you ever seen god or Jesus? Have you seen how they look? And have you seen the devil? Have you talked with them? Of course you have. The reason why there is no proof of them is because people make something up in their head for themselves because they are afraid, they need help. Why does being an atheist sound so bad? Because from the day we were born our relatives pushed this idea into our head and now it seems so evil and wrong to think otherwise. But I have a reason, I think so because I have an opinion, it's just different. I cannot tell you that a hundred times and still I don't think that you'll understand it, you have your own opinion that is non-breakable, you are brainwashed.
Oh and yes please post my sins and all of my bad sides, make a list, make a topic, make it viral. I really want to be a better person and I know that it is possible without any belief in something superstitious.
5 normal people? I can name more. My parents, my grandparents, my friends ( 3 of them ).

You're actually right I'm wasting too much time on this, it became something like the same thing over and over again. I'll try to keep my posts shorter or stop posting at all.
By the way that list of my bad side would actually be appreciated ( and interesting ).