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[Boone]

@Juice
There is one big problem with your claims though. You provided evidence that some persons are linked to secret organizations. You even proved them to be linked to Satanism etc. Everything you said is more or less reasonable but you're missing the big picture. They want to control us... make us obey their orders... but wait a moment, what is their final goal? Everybody on Earth worshiping Satan? I doubt, you can't really worship anything unless you consciously know what's you're doing. It's like going to Church every Sunday but not believing in God, it just doesn't work that way. Yeah, to the knowing eye it appears as if masses are worshiping Satan but they aren't. The real goal is not to get everyone to worship Satan but to be under total control so they can exploit us. Why? Earthly pleasures mostly, money, sex, cars... whatever pleases a man. Basically my point is you shouldn't accuse everybody for worshiping Satan just because they fall under the control of the government. It can't be avoided. You eat manufactured food, you live by the laws of your country... No, nobody is worshiping Satan in this community just because they obey social norms.

Your first weakness is your doubt. What is doubt and why is it weakness? Doubt is believing something is false without having any proof to support that belief. You're already under their control. Aslong as you fight, sleep, eat and live as a wolf, you are a wolf. It's easier for others to see than it is for you to see. You give yourself a million excuses for why you do what you do and you think it's ok. Others who are not giving u excuses can see things fully.


I have not accused any one but humanity. I am also human and was once under their spell as well. You can ignore what I have to post if you think it's bs. You see my words will only help those who can be helped. If you think consciously worshipping is the only way to worship then you're in for a rude awakening one day.

Another weakness is when you type what "can't" be done. Only a certain type of human still belive in cant. Its understandable though, if you've never done the impossible or seen it you would still operate as if you are a weakling. Another reason you would type that is if you've never studied the human brain. In that case, its understandable your beliefs differ from some one who has done all of these things. I am no longer chained up to the invisible barriers we were brainwashed to believe exist.

Limited thinking humans think we are in competition. They don't know the rules of war. Mainly Divid and Conquer.

If you have 1000 men and need to defeat 1500 men. If you take your 1000 and battle them 500 at a time. You would have just divided and conquered their men.


Ps. We proved here that social norrms are satanic and taking part in Satanism is satanic. If not, then you having sex with men doesn't make you gay either.

Doubt is not a weakness but the first tool of a rational and powerful mind. Without doubt the only thing you are is a blind follower. Blindly believing in God is as bad as blindly being a Satanist. Sound crazy but it's true. God wants you to doubt him and to doubt everything, he wants everybody to understand and freely choose him. You must doubt yourself if you ever wanna be closer to God, I've never seen you admit that you've been in the wrong for once. Only when you accept that you're just a mortal and make mistakes you can reach heaven. If God really wanted everybody to be perfect and doubtlessly obey him then he would only accept people without sin. God created evil for a reason. Evil should make us doubt everything and ourselves. You can only be true to something if you first doubt it.

There are many things that can't be done. So you're gonna tell me some bs about the unlimited human mind and how limits don't actually exist? Well I'm gonna give you a quote: "We go beyond our limits once we accept them" We need to know our limits and accept what cannot be done. Only then we'll live in peace, not trying to do the impossible. Don't get me mistaken here, some things which people think can't be done actually can. But knowing your limits and passing them are two completely different matters. Let's be more exact here, you do eat manufactured food right? You do obey the laws of your country, right? You pay your bills, right? Your perfect vision of a "free man" isn't possible at the moment. If you really wanna live up to your words then get off the Internet, leave your country, burn all ID and live as a free, not brainwashed individual, without any government influence or their laws... It could be possible but we all know how hard it would be considering how the world works. And uninterrupted peace of living is a part of freedom, if you're scared for your life, forced to hide and run you aren't actually free.

But what's the point of all this? All the time you keep showing us proof that something is Satanist but you don't actually make a change. All you do is make people look for hidden symbolism but they have no idea what to do with that info. All your posts are externally oriented, you just tell us about the ills of the world and what's wrong with society and what should change. You won't make any difference by doing that. You should focus on individuals, they can't change the world but they can change themselves. Instead of relentlessly preaching what's wrong with everything focus on motivating personal growth and a better self awareness.

God has created evil, as you wrote above not to make us doubt in everything, but to test us, here comes the exam. God doesn't want you to doubt him, he wouldn't create religions at the first place then. And your free choice of choosing God has results. If you choose wrongly, you get the result of what you chose, if you choose wisely, you'll get a result of what you chose, too. If anyone wishes to be closer to God, he must obey his orders and believe in what he ordered him. Mistakes are essential in our lifetime, and we are created to sin. But the opportunity is still there, to ask God for forgiveness and mercy. None of us is clean from sins, undoubtedly. And evil is not there TO DOUBT us, it's there to take us to the wrong path. And doubting doesn't mean we're right, we can doubt in God's existence, but does that make it true? No, that' absolutely denies your say. And we're not there to accept what cannot be done, we are there to try to do what can't be done until it gets done (as long as it applies to God's rules) and our human brain has no limits in fact, you can think of numerous thoughts, just like the infinitive numbers. About free thing, the concept differs from a person to another. Truth is, we are slaves. Either slaves to God, or to Satan's orders. The slaves that get awarded are those who follow God's orders and evade his prohibitions. If the mankind is free, this world will be lead to doom. Freedom has limits, on the other hand. You can't harm others because of your freedom, that's forbidden. Which means that yet, you are not free to do whatever you want.

And about Satanist proofs, it's very essential to know your enemy, and change doesn't come instantly, it comes step by step. Even if it's a tiny feet, starting with improving very small bits inside your brain that helps you avoid being Satanist. Talking about those stuff that should change, illness of the world and all that, is self awareness.

Five percent of your happiness comes from outer world material, and ninety five percent comes from your inside, spiritual part, and self acceptance.

[*Sunday*]

God has created evil, as you wrote above not to make us doubt in everything, but to test us, here comes the exam. God doesn't want you to doubt him, he wouldn't create religions at the first place then. And your free choice of choosing God has results. If you choose wrongly, you get the result of what you chose, if you choose wisely, you'll get a result of what you chose, too. If anyone wishes to be closer to God, he must obey his orders and believe in what he ordered him. Mistakes are essential in our lifetime, and we are created to sin. But the opportunity is still there, to ask God for forgiveness and mercy. None of us is clean from sins, undoubtedly. And evil is not there TO DOUBT us, it's there to take us to the wrong path. And doubting doesn't mean we're right, we can doubt in God's existence, but does that make it true? No, that' absolutely denies your say. And we're not there to accept what cannot be done, we are there to try to do what can't be done until it gets done (as long as it applies to God's rules) and our human brain has no limits in fact, you can think of numerous thoughts, just like the infinitive numbers. About free thing, the concept differs from a person to another. Truth is, we are slaves. Either slaves to God, or to Satan's orders. The slaves that get awarded are those who follow God's orders and evade his prohibitions. If the mankind is free, this world will be lead to doom. Freedom has limits, on the other hand. You can't harm others because of your freedom, that's forbidden. Which means that yet, you are not free to do whatever you want.

And about Satanist proofs, it's very essential to know your enemy, and change doesn't come instantly, it comes step by step. Even if it's a tiny feet, starting with improving very small bits inside your brain that helps you avoid being Satanist. Talking about those stuff that should change, illness of the world and all that, is self awareness.

Five percent of your happiness comes from outer world material, and ninety five percent comes from your inside, spiritual part, and self acceptance.

Wrong, God wants us to doubt. If we were doubtless what would be the point of testing us? It's like writing an exam when the teacher knows you know all answers already. You are right at one thing, evil indeed is here to take us to the wrong path but that's why there are good and evil and not just evil. Evil was created as a counterpart to good so balance can exist. God's ultimate and final plan of making two sides is to make us doubt, not to blindly pick one. So yeah, evil was made to counter good and therefore make us doubt our bounds to the good sides. Even Jesus doubted God, asked if he has abandoned him and he knew very well who he is and that God exists. And Jesus didn't sin. Doubting God isn't a sin, it's required. Doubt makes us think, calculate, try to figure out what's right and what's right. You can even argue that doubt is our very conscience, the inner voice of God which tells us what's right and what's wrong.

So let's say you wanna fly, without a plane or anything, just fly by yourself. You'll keep trying until you actually start flying? Or let's say you wanna run at the speed of light? You'll train forever and you'll never be that fast. That's madness, not being unlimited. There are limits and we have to accept them, just don't forget God made those limits for a reason. On the other side, your very mind is unlimited but that's a whole another story. It's all about knowing your true limits and not being afraid to go to the very limit and figure out what you can do. But don't get arrogant on the way there and believe you can do literally anything.

What I was trying to say with my last paragraph is that we need to be more positive and focus on ourselves. Constantly trying to figure out who the enemy is and fighting against it is useless. The greatest fight is with yourself. Work on yourself, grow, improve and you'll start benefiting people around you without even noticing. The greatest way to love others is to love yourself. You don't need to actively work against Satanism or the government to fight against evil. The best way to fight evil is to ignore it and focus on doing good.

[Boone]

We will never accept what we each other say because our beliefs are different. I don't believe in "Jesus", that's where - my friend -, our thoughts and beliefs take opposite paths. I believe that he was a prophet, not the son of somewhat called God who marries.

[Juice.]

Doubt is not a weakness but the first tool of a rational and powerful mind. Without doubt the only thing you are is a blind follower. Blindly believing in God is as bad as blindly being a Satanist. Sound crazy but it's true. God wants you to doubt him and to doubt everything, he wants everybody to understand and freely choose him. You must doubt yourself if you ever wanna be closer to God, I've never seen you admit that you've been in the wrong for once. Only when you accept that you're just a mortal and make mistakes you can reach heaven. If God really wanted everybody to be perfect and doubtlessly obey him then he would only accept people without sin. God created evil for a reason. Evil should make us doubt everything and ourselves. You can only be true to something if you first doubt it.


Hopefully you're just playing the devil's advocate and don't believe any of this crap you wrote lol. God teaches to have faith/belief in him.

Enjoy your life filled with doubt. Doubt if you can get a job. Doubt if you can date women you like. Doubt you'll be a success. If that rubbish makes sense then one man's garbage is another man's treasure. Enjoy

There are many things that can't be done. So you're gonna tell me some bs about the unlimited human mind and how limits don't actually exist? Well I'm gonna give you a quote: "We go beyond our limits once we accept them" We need to know our limits and accept what cannot be done. Only then we'll live in peace, not trying to do the impossible. Don't get me mistaken here, some things which people think can't be done actually can. But knowing your limits and passing them are two completely different matters. Let's be more exact here, you do eat manufactured food right? You do obey the laws of your country, right? You pay your bills, right? Your perfect vision of a "free man" isn't possible at the moment. If you really wanna live up to your words then get off the Internet, leave your country, burn all ID and live as a free, not brainwashed individual, without any government influence or their laws... It could be possible but we all know how hard it would be considering how the world works. And uninterrupted peace of living is a part of freedom, if you're scared for your life, forced to hide and run you aren't actually free.

As your words say you are limited. So comprehension cannot be expected. I wonder why you think I'd take advice from doubtful person lol that would be retarded.

But what's the point of all this? All the time you keep showing us proof that something is Satanist but you don't actually make a change. All you do is make people look for hidden symbolism but they have no idea what to do with that info. All your posts are externally oriented, you just tell us about the ills of the world and what's wrong with society and what should change. You won't make any difference by doing that. You should focus on individuals, they can't change the world but they can change themselves. Instead of relentlessly preaching what's wrong with everything focus on motivating personal growth and a better self awareness.[/quote]


Its proof to you but not to me. Only people who don't know are out looking for proof.

You made up false rules to get into heaven. You're insane.

You claim I say what should change. where?

You think you can tell me what I should do. You're insane.


Then again who cares? You doubt your self and with good reasoning. You're limited and not capable of many things. I bet you played lsrcr hardcore for almost 10k. Although I don't count item sales or weapons as real points because nurbs spam them LOL my little score was a breeze. I remember one guy telling me he was trying to beat my score lol I told him I could tell. Since he was trying, I knew he'd never make it. Similar to defending doubt. That was extremely stupid but brave at the same time. You would defend a two time murderer being convicted of his third murder. That doubt crap is why you are where you are in life.

[Juice.]

Sunday use to have good posts. I had so much faith in him but now I doubt him. I also doubt he's ever heard of doubting Thomas.

[*Sunday*]

We will never accept what we each other say because our beliefs are different. I don't believe in "Jesus", that's where - my friend -, our thoughts and beliefs take opposite paths. I believe that he was a prophet, not the son of somewhat called God who marries.

Well, I used Jesus as an example. He's not crucial to my point but I thought it would be a nice example since there are a lot of Christians in the community.

Here comes the plot twist, I actually agree with most of the things you posted in this topic. I fully understand why you shouldn't doubt God, yeah, that's the whole point of religion. What I was trying to say is doubt can actually make you much stronger if you choose right. A man who had to doubt between good and evil and choose good has a much bigger faith. That's the whole point of God's tests, to give us strength and let us come to the good side by ourselves, not to be forced of left without a choice. As you see, doubt is and isn't good at the same time, it all depends which perspective you take and what you're actually trying to achieve. I always considered myself as a Christian but there were times when I doubted God and everything. After all this I see that doubt only made my faith stronger and gave me a much better insight of what religion is all about. I'd much rather take that than blindly follow a religion without understanding it.

Doubt ---> Questions ---> Search for answers ---> Revelations

Everybody should have his own revelations just like everybody has a different way to find God in his life.

Hopefully you're just playing the devil's advocate and don't believe any of this crap you wrote lol. God teaches to have faith/belief in him.

Enjoy your life filled with doubt. Doubt if you can get a job. Doubt if you can date women you like. Doubt you'll be a success. If that rubbish makes sense then one man's garbage is another man's treasure. Enjoy

No, I am playing God's advocate. There are two kinds of people. The first group blames God for creating evil and can't understand why the all loving God would want such bad things to happen. The second group tries to understand God and what his plan behind the evil is. I am in the second group as you see. I'm not too sure where you belong.

God created evil knowing it would doubt our faith. If we were perfect and always followed the true faith evil wouldn't make any sense, there would be no difference in the world because nobody would fall under evil's influence. Evil was created with purpose knowing humans are weak and that evil will doubt us. God wants us to doubt but he also wants us to choose the right way through doubt, not through blind faith. You are also a very doubtful person, Juice, you're just afraid to turn that doubt against God. You play GTA, you doubt it, you search for hidden meaning. You see the government, you doubt it, you try to figure out what the truth they hide is. In the end you come to revelations and you understand what you once blindly believed much better. If only you gave God a chance to be doubted you could learn a lot and get a much better view of how and why.

As your words say you are limited. So comprehension cannot be expected. I wonder why you think I'd take advice from doubtful person lol that would be retarded.

Comprehension can be expected, you don't need to be unlimited to know some things. You're basically saying my argument is wrong since I'm not god and therefore can't be 100% sure in my opinion... please. So tell me, who are you to claim you know the ultimate truth? Your words are just an opinion which can be doubted as anything else anyone else says. We're on the same level.

Its proof to you but not to me. Only people who don't know are out looking for proof.

You made up false rules to get into heaven. You're insane.

You claim I say what should change. where?

You think you can tell me what I should do. You're insane.

Everybody has their own heaven, there is no such thing as "rules" to get into heaven, everybody has his own way to get there and find fulfillment. We are created different for a reason.

So you're telling me you don't want the world to change? You want Illuminati and Satanists running everything as they do now? You didn't claim that you want a change but your posts indicate the current world isn't your idea of a good world.

I'm not telling you what to do. I'm just giving my opinion and you're free to believe whatever you want. The only reason why I'm posting here is to hopefully have a rational argument with someone and test my beliefs and perhaps find out about some new ideas or ways to look at life. I use this sub-forum for personal growth, not to fight you.

Then again who cares? You doubt your self and with good reasoning. You're limited and not capable of many things. I bet you played lsrcr hardcore for almost 10k. Although I don't count item sales or weapons as real points because nurbs spam them LOL my little score was a breeze. I remember one guy telling me he was trying to beat my score lol I told him I could tell. Since he was trying, I knew he'd never make it. Similar to defending doubt. That was extremely stupid but brave at the same time. You would defend a two time murderer being convicted of his third murder. That doubt crap is why you are where you are in life.

This is the perfect example why being doubtless is a bad thing. You gave yourself right to play God himself and judge me and assume what my life is like. Who are you to know how I play Lsrcr? Who are you to say that this "crap" is why I'm here in life? Look at yourself, you're the one who keeps bragging about your score on Lsrcr.

Sunday use to have good posts. I had so much faith in him but now I doubt him. I also doubt he's ever heard of doubting Thomas.

Now you're just trying to be personal. My arguments are totally separated from my personal views. I think you have some good and some bad arguments in this sub-forum. I always give my opinion no matter who posts it. I have faith in ideas, not in people. That's the difference between us. I'm never going to say I lost my faith in you just because we disagree.

[killdahobo99]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYuIoFai3Sw

[Juice.]

Hopefully you're just playing the devil's advocate and don't believe any of this crap you wrote lol. God teaches to have faith/belief in him.

Enjoy your life filled with doubt. Doubt if you can get a job. Doubt if you can date women you like. Doubt you'll be a success. If that rubbish makes sense then one man's garbage is another man's treasure. Enjoy

No, I am playing God's advocate. There are two kinds of people. The first group blames God for creating evil and can't understand why the all loving God would want such bad things to happen. The second group tries to understand God and what his plan behind the evil is. I am in the second group as you see. I'm not too sure where you belong.


No such thing as a God's advocate. You are too smart to believe these things or maybe its your ego dealing with being wrong. Either way you're wrong and it seems you handle it in a weird fashion. By saying doubt is a good tool lol... If faith+belief is of God then doubt is of? SATAN. I will never believe you mean that crap so i won't think too far into it.


(notice he says he's in the group that "TRIES" (FAILS) to understand God.. No wonder he thinks doubt is good.. I guess you're trying)

He said its only two type of people but he can't tell which I am? lol thats what happens when you bring opinions to someone who brings facts. You can bring your opinions but when the facts are placed then you know we toss opinions in the trash right? GOOD.

God created evil knowing it would doubt our faith. If we were perfect and always followed the true faith evil wouldn't make any sense, there would be no difference in the world because nobody would fall under evil's influence. Evil was created with purpose knowing humans are weak and that evil will doubt us. God wants us to doubt but he also wants us to choose the right way through doubt, not through blind faith. You are also a very doubtful person, Juice, you're just afraid to turn that doubt against God. You play GTA, you doubt it, you search for hidden meaning. You see the government, you doubt it, you try to figure out what the truth they hide is. In the end you come to revelations and you understand what you once blindly believed much better. If only you gave God a chance to be doubted you could learn a lot and get a much better view of how and why.

As your words say you are limited. So comprehension cannot be expected. I wonder why you think I'd take advice from doubtful person lol that would be retarded.

Comprehension can be expected, you don't need to be unlimited to know some things. You're basically saying my argument is wrong since I'm not god and therefore can't be 100% sure in my opinion... please. So tell me, who are you to claim you know the ultimate truth? Your words are just an opinion which can be doubted as anything else anyone else says. We're on the same level.

I never said who or what you are. satan has told you these false claims you make. If not post quotes.

You're a doubtful person as YOU say. So I doubt you because thats what you have to offer. Your impressive doubting skills. LOL

A man should doubt what I have to say, but boys never go back to research. So no, boys are not on the same level as intelligent men. It's not a level thing here because I can't even see your stats. You're a doubter though. You don't deserve me spending time to press squares with letters on them.

Its proof to you but not to me. Only people who don't know are out looking for proof.

You made up false rules to get into heaven. You're insane.

You claim I say what should change. where?

You think you can tell me what I should do. You're insane.

Everybody has their own heaven, there is no such thing as "rules" to get into heaven, everybody has his own way to get there and find fulfillment. We are created different for a reason.


Ok so you truly are insane. 1 quote ago u said were on the same level. Now you say we're all different and have different heavens.. Well we all know you're confused, that's for sure. For your sake bruh, I hope you figure it out. (the truth)

So you're telling me you don't want the world to change? You want Illuminati and Satanists running everything as they do now? You didn't claim that you want a change but your posts indicate the current world isn't your idea of a good world.

Change is not my choice or my concern. Just because you wear a cape and briefs at night and pretend to fly doesn't mean we all do ok super man? lol

Yea I know that post was silly but unfortunately that doubt crap has made you but a joke to me.

I'm not telling you what to do. I'm just giving my opinion and you're free to believe whatever you want. The only reason why I'm posting here is to hopefully have a rational argument with someone and test my beliefs and perhaps find out about some new ideas or ways to look at life. I use this sub-forum for personal growth, not to fight you.

your beliefs? LOLLL yea ok mr doubt. You make no sense.

Then again who cares? You doubt your self and with good reasoning. You're limited and not capable of many things. I bet you played lsrcr hardcore for almost 10k. Although I don't count item sales or weapons as real points because nurbs spam them LOL my little score was a breeze. I remember one guy telling me he was trying to beat my score lol I told him I could tell. Since he was trying, I knew he'd never make it. Similar to defending doubt. That was extremely stupid but brave at the same time. You would defend a two time murderer being convicted of his third murder. That doubt crap is why you are where you are in life. [/color]

This is the perfect example why being doubtless is a bad thing. You gave yourself right to play God himself and judge me and assume what my life is like. Who are you to know how I play Lsrcr? Who are you to say that this "crap" is why I'm here in life? Look at yourself, you're the one who keeps bragging about your score on Lsrcr.

You said you're limited, which includes that brain of yours. I never judged you. Tell satan to let you go. He's got you seeing things that aren't there.

It's only bragging when the other guy completely sucks. Otherwise its just good player conversation. I guess you wouldn't know that conversation now would you?

Sunday use to have good posts. I had so much faith in him but now I doubt him. I also doubt he's ever heard of doubting Thomas.

Now you're just trying to be personal. My arguments are totally separated from my personal views. I think you have some good and some bad arguments in this sub-forum. I always give my opinion no matter who posts it. I have faith in ideas, not in people. That's the difference between us. I'm never going to say I lost my faith in you just because we disagree.

Now really its sad bro. Doubt? Did you get your head smashed under a hammer or something? Those are the guys who use doubt as a useful tool in life lol that crap goes in the top 5 dumbest things ever posted here bruh. I lost faith in you. I can say it because I'm real. You believe the total opposite of the truth. If it comes down to it, I'd rather have less men on my team then to pick you. Who wants a doubter hanging around? LOL I'm not on the losing team. The losing team is over there somewhere waiting for you

[StephenKelly]

Every topic in this section turns into an argument and Juice is always in it.

[*Sunday*]

Hopefully you're just playing the devil's advocate and don't believe any of this crap you wrote lol. God teaches to have faith/belief in him.

Enjoy your life filled with doubt. Doubt if you can get a job. Doubt if you can date women you like. Doubt you'll be a success. If that rubbish makes sense then one man's garbage is another man's treasure. Enjoy

No, I am playing God's advocate. There are two kinds of people. The first group blames God for creating evil and can't understand why the all loving God would want such bad things to happen. The second group tries to understand God and what his plan behind the evil is. I am in the second group as you see. I'm not too sure where you belong.


No such thing as a God's advocate. You are too smart to believe these things or maybe its your ego dealing with being wrong. Either way you're wrong and it seems you handle it in a weird fashion. By saying doubt is a good tool lol... If faith+belief is of God then doubt is of? SATAN. I will never believe you mean that crap so i won't think too far into it.


(notice he says he's in the group that "TRIES" (FAILS) to understand God.. No wonder he thinks doubt is good.. I guess you're trying)

He said its only two type of people but he can't tell which I am? lol thats what happens when you bring opinions to someone who brings facts. You can bring your opinions but when the facts are placed then you know we toss opinions in the trash right? GOOD.

First of all I said "tries" because I don't want to claim I have full understanding of God, it's like saying you're perfect. You can try being perfect (just as you can try to understand God) but you'll never be able to fully do it. Even you confirmed this few months ago by saying you can't achieve perfection in this life.

It seems we obviously have a different understanding of what good and evil are. You believe that good and evil are total opposites, you either join one or the other side, there is no in between. You're telling me of a world in black in white. Well, I'm telling you good and evil are just two sides of the same coin, welcome to the grey world. Try to put yourself into God's perspective for a second and try to understand him. God created evil. Why? He wants us to go into heaven and he wants us to love him. Then why does God want evil to happen? This question is too hard, let's regrade it to a closer example. The teacher wants all his students to know everything he taught them and he wants them to have good grades. But why does the teacher make hard exams if he wants us to have good grades? Well, he needs to test how much we actually know. If you know everything he taught you, if you're a good student you'll get good grades. If we translate grades into heaven and knowing the exam into loving God (and therefore exam=evil) we clearly see what God's reasoning behind evil is. God wants us to understand him, freely decide to come to him and love him. He wants the creator and the creation to be one. But of course, our closed minds don't understand that, we are too stupid to understand and value God's love. God is not trying to get us into heaven, he is trying to get us to understand and choose his love. Heaven is just something you get as a reward, something secondary. You should not live a sinless life because you're afraid of hell but because you simply wanna love God and be one with him. Heaven just comes along. It's a very complicated theory but I hope you understand now what I meant by doubt. Of course, students will complain that exams suck, that they're too hard (just like we complain about evil) but in the end exams are there for our own good, so we know things they're teaching us better. It seems paradoxal but in the end it makes sense to me, it's all about seeing the bigger picture.

God created evil knowing it would doubt our faith. If we were perfect and always followed the true faith evil wouldn't make any sense, there would be no difference in the world because nobody would fall under evil's influence. Evil was created with purpose knowing humans are weak and that evil will doubt us. God wants us to doubt but he also wants us to choose the right way through doubt, not through blind faith. You are also a very doubtful person, Juice, you're just afraid to turn that doubt against God. You play GTA, you doubt it, you search for hidden meaning. You see the government, you doubt it, you try to figure out what the truth they hide is. In the end you come to revelations and you understand what you once blindly believed much better. If only you gave God a chance to be doubted you could learn a lot and get a much better view of how and why.

As your words say you are limited. So comprehension cannot be expected. I wonder why you think I'd take advice from doubtful person lol that would be retarded.

Comprehension can be expected, you don't need to be unlimited to know some things. You're basically saying my argument is wrong since I'm not god and therefore can't be 100% sure in my opinion... please. So tell me, who are you to claim you know the ultimate truth? Your words are just an opinion which can be doubted as anything else anyone else says. We're on the same level.

I never said who or what you are. satan has told you these false claims you make. If not post quotes.

You're a doubtful person as YOU say. So I doubt you because thats what you have to offer. Your impressive doubting skills. LOL

A man should doubt what I have to say, but boys never go back to research. So no, boys are not on the same level as intelligent men. It's not a level thing here because I can't even see your stats. You're a doubter though. You don't deserve me spending time to press squares with letters on them.

You're taking my words too much out of their context. By saying "doubt is good" I didn't mean you should doubt everything every second of your existence, that's just too extreme. Doubt is good but when used reasonably. Yes, I am a doubtful person because doubt makes me question things and look for the right answer. I had and have my doubts and after reviewing everything I formed my opinion. The thing you're reading are not my doubts, that's my opinion which was tested by doubt and survived.

Its proof to you but not to me. Only people who don't know are out looking for proof.

You made up false rules to get into heaven. You're insane.

You claim I say what should change. where?

You think you can tell me what I should do. You're insane.

Everybody has their own heaven, there is no such thing as "rules" to get into heaven, everybody has his own way to get there and find fulfillment. We are created different for a reason.


Ok so you truly are insane. 1 quote ago u said were on the same level. Now you say we're all different and have different heavens.. Well we all know you're confused, that's for sure. For your sake bruh, I hope you figure it out. (the truth)

Not confused at all, it's you who fails to understand my concept. We're all on the same level when it comes to our ability to compare to the divine. Nobody is superior, we're all God's people, equal by our status. Nobody deserves to be treated better nor worse. Those are the basics of social equality, not just religion. But that doesn't mean we're clones. Everybody has a different way to look at life, God has different plans and tests for every single person. So yeah, we're worth and capable of the same, that makes us equal. But it's everyone's personal choice to choose how will he use that potential.

So you're telling me you don't want the world to change? You want Illuminati and Satanists running everything as they do now? You didn't claim that you want a change but your posts indicate the current world isn't your idea of a good world.

Change is not my choice or my concern. Just because you wear a cape and briefs at night and pretend to fly doesn't mean we all do ok super man? lol

Yea I know that post was silly but unfortunately that doubt crap has made you but a joke to me.

I'm a joke to you? Fine, don't comment on my posts. Nobody is forcing you to argue with me. Once again, I'm here to share my opinion and to get an insight of other opinions and ideas. I'm not here to prove myself right, I'm here to learn.

I'm not telling you what to do. I'm just giving my opinion and you're free to believe whatever you want. The only reason why I'm posting here is to hopefully have a rational argument with someone and test my beliefs and perhaps find out about some new ideas or ways to look at life. I use this sub-forum for personal growth, not to fight you.

your beliefs? LOLLL yea ok mr doubt. You make no sense.

Yeah. As I said earlier everything I wrote here has undergone doubt. I didn't blindly accept everything I wrote here, I questioned myself is it the right thing first.

Then again who cares? You doubt your self and with good reasoning. You're limited and not capable of many things. I bet you played lsrcr hardcore for almost 10k. Although I don't count item sales or weapons as real points because nurbs spam them LOL my little score was a breeze. I remember one guy telling me he was trying to beat my score lol I told him I could tell. Since he was trying, I knew he'd never make it. Similar to defending doubt. That was extremely stupid but brave at the same time. You would defend a two time murderer being convicted of his third murder. That doubt crap is why you are where you are in life. [/color]

This is the perfect example why being doubtless is a bad thing. You gave yourself right to play God himself and judge me and assume what my life is like. Who are you to know how I play Lsrcr? Who are you to say that this "crap" is why I'm here in life? Look at yourself, you're the one who keeps bragging about your score on Lsrcr.

You said you're limited, which includes that brain of yours. I never judged you. Tell satan to let you go. He's got you seeing things that aren't there.

It's only bragging when the other guy completely sucks. Otherwise its just good player conversation. I guess you wouldn't know that conversation now would you?

Sunday use to have good posts. I had so much faith in him but now I doubt him. I also doubt he's ever heard of doubting Thomas.

Now you're just trying to be personal. My arguments are totally separated from my personal views. I think you have some good and some bad arguments in this sub-forum. I always give my opinion no matter who posts it. I have faith in ideas, not in people. That's the difference between us. I'm never going to say I lost my faith in you just because we disagree.

Now really its sad bro. Doubt? Did you get your head smashed under a hammer or something? Those are the guys who use doubt as a useful tool in life lol that crap goes in the top 5 dumbest things ever posted here bruh. I lost faith in you. I can say it because I'm real. You believe the total opposite of the truth. If it comes down to it, I'd rather have less men on my team then to pick you. Who wants a doubter hanging around? LOL I'm not on the losing team. The losing team is over there somewhere waiting for you

I don't understand how this paragraph is related to the discussion. All you're supposed to do here is make arguments against mine in an effort to learn something new. You personal opinion about me is totally irrelevant, keep that to yourself and stick to the discussion topic.