

[Lsrcr]Big wrote:@Hiccup
No the answer was not found and it was not very satisfying, you're saying god just was there, always before everything else was there, and then he just suddenly made everything? That makes as much sense as your water on a painting story.
[Lsrcr]Big wrote:@Hiccupyes God was there before everything happened.
No the answer was not found and it was not very satisfying, you're saying god just was there, always before everything else was there, and then he just suddenly made everything? That makes as much sense as your water on a painting story.

Hiccup wrote:Okay I get your point now but I still don't think it makes any sense if someone just is there without being made, I don't think that the fact that big bang came out of no where makes sense either but I think what happened after the bang makes more sense than what happens in the bibles story.[Lsrcr]Big wrote:@Hiccup
No the answer was not found and it was not very satisfying, you're saying god just was there, always before everything else was there, and then he just suddenly made everything? That makes as much sense as your water on a painting story.
God creates WHATEVER he wants. He has His own will. There was a divine hadith (talk) that said (this hadith is not approved 100%):
"I was a hidden treasure, and I wanted to be known, so I created the creation".
What I meant to say was, you are created, it does not mean that your creator was created. Because you are a creation of the creator who made the concept creation itself. Principles of being created from something does not apply on the creator (like the water and the paint example). He is not supposed to melt because he's not like the painting.

[Lsrcr]Big wrote:What. God made the sense itself. He put the rules and He was not created. If big bang theory is realistic (it probably is), God has created it. In a very strict way! And listen what God said in Qur'an about what we say about him, we didn't see him and we're saying things about him:Hiccup wrote:Okay I get your point now but I still don't think it makes any sense if someone just is there without being made, I don't think that the fact that big bang came out of no where makes sense either but I think what happened after the bang makes more sense than what happens in the bibles story.[Lsrcr]Big wrote:@Hiccup
No the answer was not found and it was not very satisfying, you're saying god just was there, always before everything else was there, and then he just suddenly made everything? That makes as much sense as your water on a painting story.
God creates WHATEVER he wants. He has His own will. There was a divine hadith (talk) that said (this hadith is not approved 100%):
"I was a hidden treasure, and I wanted to be known, so I created the creation".
What I meant to say was, you are created, it does not mean that your creator was created. Because you are a creation of the creator who made the concept creation itself. Principles of being created from something does not apply on the creator (like the water and the paint example). He is not supposed to melt because he's not like the painting.
[Lsrcr]Big wrote:No,its not right. These people who do that are brainwashed!Bin Laden fights for the sake of God (God knows his intentions more than I do)So to your god its okay to blow up other people in the name of his? And you wonder why Muslims are called terrorists?

[Lsrcr]Big wrote:Bin Laden fights for the sake of God (God knows his intentions more than I do)So to your god its okay to blow up other people in the name of his? And you wonder why Muslims are called terrorists?
Hiccup wrote:By asking for evidence, are you saying Bin Laden is not a fuckin terrorist?[Lsrcr]Big wrote:Bin Laden fights for the sake of God (God knows his intentions more than I do)So to your god its okay to blow up other people in the name of his? And you wonder why Muslims are called terrorists?
What's your proof that Muslims blew other people up? What's your evidence?

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