Shield - Approved

[noʎʞɔnɟ]

Moiz' suggestion is not the main suggestion anyway.

I am going to forward the suggestion (if gets approved) the original version. If it gets denied, I can always use his side of suggestion.

Anyway, people can hold shield on the forearm while shooting with MP5 or M4 or even with sniper.

Or even an RPG.

Stop making the suggestion even more OP.

[Kaosx234]

Moiz' suggestion is not the main suggestion anyway.

I am going to forward the suggestion (if gets approved) the original version. If it gets denied, I can always use his side of suggestion.

Anyway, people can hold shield on the forearm while shooting with MP5 or M4 or even with sniper.

Or even an RPG.

Stop making the suggestion even more OP.

If you could elaborate "OP" since I already told you that having 50 more armor is totally not OP but a minor advantage.

Anyway, "-1" without clear reason means post deleting.

[noʎʞɔnɟ]

Moiz' suggestion is not the main suggestion anyway.

I am going to forward the suggestion (if gets approved) the original version. If it gets denied, I can always use his side of suggestion.

Anyway, people can hold shield on the forearm while shooting with MP5 or M4 or even with sniper.

Or even an RPG.

Stop making the suggestion even more OP.

If you could elaborate "OP" since I already told you that having 50 more armor is totally not OP but a minor advantage.

Anyway, "-1" without clear reason means post deleting.

Without a clear reason, Kaosx?
Maybe you can't see it because, oh wait, you're this faction's Commander but the suggestion you just proposed is overpowered.
Couple reasons, really.

1. It gives you +50 armor which will be an advantage in duels since;
2. You'll be able to run with it instead of giving the shield a slight disadvantage and making it only wearable when you're walking but even there, it'll still be OP because;
3. You'll be able to use 2-Handed Weapons when you're holding a shield up. How, may I ask? Even if the server isn't that roleplay-ish, you always have to add disadvantages to your suggestions.

Using 1-Handed Weapons would be a fit disadvantage to this.
Being forced to walk when you've equipped the shield would be one as well.

Think of the pros and cons.
You're only thinking about the pros because you can't see how many advantages S.W.A.T. already has.

[Kaosx234]

First of all, don't call names in this disussion. I don't want unneeded arguments.

1. It gives you +50 armor which will be an advantage in duels since;
2. You'll be able to run with it instead of giving the shield a slight disadvantage and making it only wearable when you're walking but even there, it'll still be OP because;
3. You'll be able to use 2-Handed Weapons when you're holding a shield up. How, may I ask? Even if the server isn't that roleplay-ish, you always have to add disadvantages to your suggestions.

As far as I know, police indeed can run with shields. They're not as heavy as 50kgs. As matter of fact, I have a friend in special forces and I know how does it look like, so don't try to act clever in this area.

There are forearms for shields, as I have already said. I might or might not tell Johnson to disallow using sawnoff with shield.

Using 1-Handed Weapons would be a fit disadvantage to this.
Being forced to walk when you've equipped the shield would be one as well.

Once again, don't act smart if you don't know anything about this.

Think of the pros and cons.
You're only thinking about the pros because you can't see how many advantages S.W.A.T. already has.

I am pretty sure that SWAT is an official faction therefore it needs to have some of advantages. You cannot deny or nor accept it.

[noʎʞɔnɟ]

First of all, don't call names in this disussion. I don't want unneeded arguments.

1. It gives you +50 armor which will be an advantage in duels since;
2. You'll be able to run with it instead of giving the shield a slight disadvantage and making it only wearable when you're walking but even there, it'll still be OP because;
3. You'll be able to use 2-Handed Weapons when you're holding a shield up. How, may I ask? Even if the server isn't that roleplay-ish, you always have to add disadvantages to your suggestions.

As far as I know, police indeed can run with shields. They're not as heavy as 50kgs. As matter of fact, I have a friend in special forces and I know how does it look like, so don't try to act clever in this area.

There are forearms for shields, as I have already said. I might or might not tell Johnson to disallow using sawnoff with shield.

Using 1-Handed Weapons would be a fit disadvantage to this.
Being forced to walk when you've equipped the shield would be one as well.

Once again, don't act smart if you don't know anything about this.

Think of the pros and cons.
You're only thinking about the pros because you can't see how many advantages S.W.A.T. already has.

I am pretty sure that SWAT is an official faction therefore it needs to have some of advantages. You cannot deny or nor accept it.

First of, I didn't call you anything.
I said you were being biased, yes, because you're this faction's Commander, jeez.

And yes, S.W.A.T. is an official faction and therefore it's entitled to SOME advantages, not ALL of them, Jesus Christ.

Every suggestion must have pros and cons.
Tell me one con to this shield suggestion. Just one.

[Kaosx234]

First of all, don't call names in this disussion. I don't want unneeded arguments.

1. It gives you +50 armor which will be an advantage in duels since;
2. You'll be able to run with it instead of giving the shield a slight disadvantage and making it only wearable when you're walking but even there, it'll still be OP because;
3. You'll be able to use 2-Handed Weapons when you're holding a shield up. How, may I ask? Even if the server isn't that roleplay-ish, you always have to add disadvantages to your suggestions.

As far as I know, police indeed can run with shields. They're not as heavy as 50kgs. As matter of fact, I have a friend in special forces and I know how does it look like, so don't try to act clever in this area.

There are forearms for shields, as I have already said. I might or might not tell Johnson to disallow using sawnoff with shield.

Using 1-Handed Weapons would be a fit disadvantage to this.
Being forced to walk when you've equipped the shield would be one as well.

Once again, don't act smart if you don't know anything about this.

Think of the pros and cons.
You're only thinking about the pros because you can't see how many advantages S.W.A.T. already has.

I am pretty sure that SWAT is an official faction therefore it needs to have some of advantages. You cannot deny or nor accept it.

First of, I didn't call you anything.
I said you were being biased, yes, because you're this faction's Commander, jeez.

And yes, S.W.A.T. is an official faction and therefore it's entitled to SOME advantages, not ALL of them, Jesus Christ.

Every suggestion must have pros and cons.
Tell me one con to this shield suggestion. Just one.

Not every suggestion must have pros and cons. Lets say, Police Safe Zone. There're no cons for L.E.O. I also could give you a few things about Army and SWAT suggestions (approved and they're in server) which have no cons.

[Game]

Its already hard to kill swats while theyre chasing us with only full hp as theyre using commands, wouldnt it be more hard if they had such shield and sawnoffs in their hand running behind us? I mean 1Handed sawn or M4 without being able to sprint(bashing space) is aight but else it'll be too op IMO. Nice idea tho.

[Kaosx234]

Its already hard to kill swats while theyre chasing us with only full hp as theyre using commands, wouldnt it be more hard if they had such shield and sawnoffs in their hand running behind us? I mean 1Handed sawn or M4 without being able to sprint(bashing space) is aight but else it'll be too op IMO. Nice idea tho.

I appreciate your idea opinion, and talking with table showed me that it might be too OP in duels (sawnoff), therefore I could suggest it to disable using sawnoffs (at least when you have on both hands) while having shield on.

Also, instead of giving 50-60 armor, it can make us more resistant on bullets, for an instance, if deagle's damage is 40, 20 percent of it goes in the shield (20 percent of 40 is 8), so on us, deagle's damage is 32. The shield's HP is 60.

This is how would it work:

If I have 200 HP (100 HP + 100 Armour).
I am dueling Table with Sniper (it's damage is around 45, lets take 40 for easier counting).
He needs to shoot me (normally) 40 x 5 to kill me, but if I have shield, he needs to shoot me (if he wants to kill) 32x6.25=> 7 times. If he shooted me 6 times, I will have 8 HP left and my shied's HP will have left 12 HP.

As matter of fact, I like the newer suggestion more.

[[Lsrcr]Yakuza]

+1

[Hashish]

+1