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Post by Cyborg. » December 15, 2014, 10:00 pm
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Suggestion(s): Making Ranks useful/Adding Improvements to rank system/Lowering the amount of Ranks/Adding Advantages to higher ranks>Lower ranks,Improving Ranking system,All are the same.
Why would it be useful: Simple,Private=Staff Sergeant,If you are a good Army member You can become a TO no matter what rank,All vehicles are allowed from PVT>Generals,Commands,Everything is the same,And i guess you guys got like +20 Rank
What for? This is a mixed Question&Suggestion,I mean Ranks are simply useless unless it's an AHC Rank,Ranks below [BG] are simply equal as Privates.
Additional comments: I listed it all above
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HunTeR1 wrote:
It sounds good but I just wanted to say something which I believe is one of the most problem Army has and you should care about and it is:
Currently, There is no 1 simple difference between Army ranks. You know, What can a Staff sergeant do that a Private cannot?
You might say that we trust higher ranks and they are loyal and so on... Well, we all know about that but yet, it doesn't change anything.
Army ranks needs some serious differences that really matters. Just for an example, Not everybody should be able to fly hydra. Even if it lessens the fun for new members, That's how it is and they should deal with it. I'd be happy if you correct me in case I'm wrong.
Thanks.
Yes! Finally someone who gets my point.

Promotions and most ranks in Army have no meaning. John, you said dedicated members get awarded with a promotion every 35 days. That's not true, a promotion is not a real award since it provides no actual benefits. Eventually people get bored and leave since Army is very very repetitive. Your life as an Army member is basically the same when you're Private and Staff Sergeant although there's a huge gap between those ranks. Get the members involved, give them things to do, not just mindless repetitive killing.
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Post by JohnCarer » December 15, 2014, 10:21 pm
One thing is for sure, we cannot do anything about in-game features and that includes difference between in-game ranks and usage of vehicles in each rank. That's developer's job and army is not the priority

Basically what you suggested is a general idea of improving ranks. Try to be more detailed in your descriptions on how do we do that?

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Post by Anaas » December 15, 2014, 10:45 pm
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I won't like to see a faction where I see power-thirsty players just doing everything to reach the top of the ladder. You join the army to have add more fun to your game and not more power for you over other players. You already get some privileges when you join the team for e.g new vehicles, skins, grenade. I don't see the need to add more privileges to the ranks now. The ranks are just here to mark your activity and dedication in the army team and are not supposed to make you any "stronger". The idea here is about having fun in a faction and not power because at the end of the day it's only a game. And to ensure everyone in the team is having fun, I strongly believe in equality among members.

Also being TO does not mean more power over the army members. It means more responsibilities.

And since this was born from the discussion about the 'cool' SWAT updates on John's topic, eventually some people will get bored of their 'cool' rights and leave for other factions. It has always been like this. New updates have the tendency to attract more players(which is normal) and after a few weeks they all get back to the monotonous drags and kills. :roll:

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Post by *Sunday* » December 16, 2014, 12:28 am
Anaas_Cold wrote:
And since this was born from the discussion about the 'cool' SWAT updates on John's topic, eventually some people will get bored of their 'cool' rights and leave for other factions. It has always been like this. New updates have the tendency to attract more players(which is normal) and after a few weeks they all get back to the monotonous drags and kills. :roll:
SWAT Justice Police here. Just came to state few facts:

You are right, new updates attract people and some get eventually bored and leave. However, SWAT's member count has been always increasing which means more people are joining than leaving in the long run. This means the updates really work, they have permanently boosted our member count, not just temporarily.
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Post by [Lsrcr]PiPo » December 16, 2014, 9:00 am
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I do fully agree with anaas, its always been like this. We are killers, and thats what we do. Personal i do not get why a higher rank should hAve more feutures or power. The power to be yourself in army, solo if you want or team if you want. Are you gonna kill or arrest? Nades or sawns? With or without taze? Tank or hunter? Shanshez or quad?

Why would we fuck up the freedom we have in army now?
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Post by Cyrex » December 16, 2014, 10:19 am
Please, Do not bring laziness here. We must support suggestions like this which improves the effort & meaning of Army ranks!
I'd ask some questions and then will try to answer some of them myself...:
Who said we're having fun palying as Army at the moment ? We're having freedom ? Freedom without fun ? Higher ranks shouldn't have more power ? Then what are promotions for ? Why we have bunch of ranks ?

I've played as Army quite enough to met with all of the conditions Army faced with so far. The way it was before, Was more enjoyable. You're right by saying " Army has freedom because there are actually no restrictions for anybody " But why you don't say, Does that Freedom makes Army more enjoyable than SWAT?
Look, I don't want to bring swat stuff here, Just don't get me wrong, but you gotta deal with it. Army, swat, pagati... They just belong to 1 community, LSRCR.
If you're claiming that Lsrcr is supposed to bring fun to its players, Then let's make some enjoyable things for Army too.
I'm sure if you ask seniors to bring back those old Army vehicles' restriction, They won't disapprove it. And hey, Be sure restriction is a real necessity for Army as we have Promotions on each month.
Let's talk about promotions now. So I got promoted to First sergeant, What is the point ? What can I do in-game that a Private cannot ? What sort of permissions do I have on forums that a private member doesn't ?
Well, in 1 simple sentence, Promotions have no point at the moment. Actually I'd like to say, Let's make Army ranks divided by 2 (One for members - One for Generals) because currently Army looks like this way.

General and Army high commands;
For the sake of Army, Get this suggestion into your consideration as I believe it will make Army the best faction. Yeah, Just by giving ranks some meaning.


I'm ready to help you in anyway I can, just to make this suggestion happen!
Sincerely,
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Post by [Lsrcr]PiPo » December 16, 2014, 10:43 am
[quote="HunTeR1"][i][b]Please, Do not bring laziness here[/b]. We must support suggestions like this which improves the effort & meaning of Army ranks!
I'd ask some questions and then will try to answer some of them myself...:
Who said we're having fun palying as Army at the moment ? We're having freedom ? Freedom without fun ? Higher ranks shouldn't have more power ? Then what are promotions for ? Why we have bunch of ranks ?
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Fun while playing always starts by yourself, and should not be limited to rules of promotions. I mean, either if you kill a guy with atank being pvt or ssg. He will blown into pieces and the result will be the same. Ranks still tell something about the members. Are they trustworthy? Are they active? Are they relieable? Without those fetures you'll not climb fast.
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I've played as Army quite enough to met with all of the conditions Army faced with so far. The way it was before, Was more enjoyable. You're right by saying " Army has freedom because there are actually no restrictions for anybody " But why you don't say, Does that Freedom makes Army more enjoyable than SWAT?
Look, I don't want to bring swat stuff here, Just don't get me wrong, but you gotta deal with it. Army, swat, pagati... They just belong to 1 community, LSRCR.
If you're claiming that Lsrcr is supposed to bring fun to its players, Then let's make some enjoyable things for Army too.
I'm sure if you ask seniors to bring back those old Army vehicles' restriction, They won't disapprove it. And hey, Be sure restriction is a real necessity for Army as we have Promotions on each month.
Let's talk about promotions now. So I got promoted to First sergeant, What is the point ? What can I do in-game that a Private cannot ? What sort of permissions do I have on forums that a private member doesn't ?
Well, in 1 simple sentence, Promotions have no point at the moment. Actually I'd like to say, Let's make Army ranks divided by 2 (One for members - One for Generals) because currently Army looks like this way.

[color=#8000BF]General and Army high commands;
For the sake of Army, Get this suggestion into your consideration as I believe it will make Army the best faction. Yeah, Just by giving ranks some meaning.[/color]

I'm ready to help you in anyway I can, just to make this suggestion happen!
Sincerely,
HunTeR1[/i][/quote]

When i joined army for the first, their were no restrictions what so ever. These came after Abuse used the hunter to destroy idlewood.
Ranks where just as know, it shows who you are. People then tent to play for fun, instead of a digital rank.
Also do i still see army as an enjoyable faction, with litterly loads of fuetueres to have even more fun. Just try an other playstyle once, instead of 2 shot and drive by. You could team up with some soldiers and all get an combat shotgun. Taze&nade/chainsaw. A bmx army crew. In our freedom is our fun, the only thing is the the member himself should not be to lazy/scorehungry and try something else as the regular killing.
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Post by Cyrex » December 16, 2014, 10:46 am
If you call that an enjoyable Faction, Then let it be the way it is.
I hope other members have fun the way you're having.
Good luck. ;)

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Post by [Lsrcr]PiPo » December 16, 2014, 10:59 am
HunTeR1 wrote:
If you call that an enjoyable Faction, Then let it be the way it is.
I hope other members have fun the way you're having.
Good luck. ;)
I do indeed call army an enjoyable faction. Its te way you play it yourself.
But that is not the point here, nor is it it that i just made the decision there will not be any changes.
I gave my oppion (pipo's thoughs, not AHC/HTO i were talking for myself)
not forcing you to share mine.
Neiter do i not know how you ment your last post, we are here to discuss. Im not burning your comment down.
I just gave mine view of it, do please not take it to personal.
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Post by Fantastic » December 16, 2014, 11:43 am
Greetings.

I'm not sure whether I'm allowed leave my opinion on Army suggestions, but thought I'd leave my comment/opinion on/towards this subject seeing as SWAT was brought up and etc.

Back in the days (2011-12) I personally must agree that Army was more enjoyable to play. This is because those vehicle restrictions and etc made ranks actually mean something more than just a rank next to your name in /armylist and the forum memberlist. Army members would work hard and strive to gain that higher rank to unlock that specific vehicle (for example; unlocking the hydra) and Army members would actually be looking forward and excited about promotions seeing as there is something to look forward for - something to unlock - a 'reward'.

Now, I left Army a few months after to join S.W.A.T. Why? Mainly because I wanted to try out something new. SWAT had a similar concept (and still have). Ranks actually meant (and still do mean) something - not in the terms of power but in the terms of rewards, enjoyability and most of all that ability to unlock new features within SWAT (more than just ranks) and yes - some power aswell seeing as lower ranks are obliged to respect and follow the higher ranks commands and instructions and that's mainly because SWAT is a team-based faction.

Anyways. Good-luck, I guess.
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