unban hackers who ban appeal maybe

[JohnCarer]

Unban players who cheated who ban appeal, and who you administrators, find proper, sincere or approvable.

Please only do this to ppl who make unban appeals and seem sincere in their application
JUST ONCE

90% of them wouldn't do it again

> Bigger community, more players, more fun and more donations

< I've seen huge communities of 20000 + players unbanning all cheaters
< Keep all IP bans (security measures)

< Hackers don't have any actual advantage in samp, especially if it's for an hour or two until they actually get banned. They didn't make any impact or gain any important advantage such as $, cars, houses. The only thing most of them do is being annoying, and most people in samp annoy me more than these hackers. #1337
Argument 1#

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Once a cheater always a cheater, maybe you should consider your actions before going ahead with them, obviously cheating isn't allowed. If you don't have the decency to not cheat why should we have the decency to unban you?

People change every day. Especially ~12~ year olds who are a huge part of samp. I could name you ten examples of people I know around here who totally changed into better and actually grown up the phase where they think any kind of abuse including cheating is fun. I personally cheated in some games like Call of Duty when I was a stupid kid, now that I have outgrown that phase, I do wish to be unbanned from certain Call of Duty servers. And I have totally no intention of ever cheating again. As an ex administrator in a bigger WoW community in 2011, I've seen soooo many people hacking and I banned countless. Then one day I got bored of the whole thing and I tried banning them 30 days ip ban instead of permanent. I made some logs, and few months later, our community has grown and we actually had less people cheating.
What I'm trying to say that people who cheat mostly don't think of the consequences nor they care at first. In a month or some time, they realize what they had done and they're sorry meaning they wouldn't do it again. Of course there are exceptions, as in everywhere in life.

>User A creates unban app (weapon spawning)
>Unbanned
>User B creates unban app (weapon spawning)
>Denied
>User B - "But you unbanned User A for using the same cheats!!"

A short thread which states that every cheating case may not be the same, and how more damage could had been done in certain cases covers up the whole "conspiracy" thing you mentioned. And you could always improvise with more things, such as, quality of the ban appeal, ban evading, raging after being banned...etc

Also this means that people are just gonna cheat knowing that if they make an appeal they'll be unbanned. They could just use an aimbot for instance for a couple of weeks before we latch onto it, then make an appeal knowing they'll be unbanned, what's the point?

You could always make it that "People who have been banned for cheating before, lets say, today - March 20, may appeal their ban so those who wish to abuse this sort of amnesty wouldn't be able to

This whole suggestion could be edited to correspond to many lsrcr terms and be very neutral when it comes to making decisions. I appreciate you not locking this topic right away. Let people give their vote and opinions, and I'll edit the main topic with things to improvise with

[Cyborg.]

Huge +1
Please only do this to ppl who make unban appeals and seem sincere in their application
JUST ONCE

[Carl_J]

+1

I was going to suggest this but since I left Lsrcr I would get some hate (no offense to anyone)

I was going to suggest this for one reason, look at this unban app here viewtopic.php?f=12&t=53498 (no offense to anyone too), banned in 2010 or 2009 & can't be unbanned in 2015

[Thursday]

Nice suggestion,so ithink ban haxor for 1 year lel

[Darius.]

+1 I like this suggestion

[Jed]

No.Just no.Hackers ruin fun by using unfair advantage.They can hurt the server aswell by DDoS-ing it,for example.And there's many more.By the way,nice advertise.Just gonna quote you in case you edit it:

Unban every player that was banned under reason of cheating and created a ban appeal with a reason you deem acceptable and sincere:

Please only do this to ppl who make unban appeals and seem sincere in their application
JUST ONCE

90% of them wouldn't do it again

> Bigger community, more players, more fun and more donations

< I've seen huge communities of 20000 + players unbanning all cheaters (for example, https://www.molten-wow.com/) a year ago
< Keep all IP bans (security measures)

< Hackers don't have any actual advantage in samp, especially if it's for an hour or two until they actually get banned. They didn't make any impact or gain any important advantage such as $, cars, houses. The only thing most of them do is being annoying, and most people in samp annoy me more than these hackers. #1337

[Cyborg.]

No.Just no.Hackers ruin fun by using unfair advantage.They can hurt the server aswell by DDoS-ing it,for example.And there's many more.By the way,nice advertise.Just gonna quote you in case you edit it:

Unban every player that was banned under reason of cheating and created a ban appeal with a reason you deem acceptable and sincere:

Please only do this to ppl who make unban appeals and seem sincere in their application
JUST ONCE

90% of them wouldn't do it again

> Bigger community, more players, more fun and more donations

< I've seen huge communities of 20000 + players unbanning all cheaters (for example, https://www.molten-wow.com/) a year ago
< Keep all IP bans (security measures)

< Hackers don't have any actual advantage in samp, especially if it's for an hour or two until they actually get banned. They didn't make any impact or gain any important advantage such as $, cars, houses. The only thing most of them do is being annoying, and most people in samp annoy me more than these hackers. #1337

Are you smart? That link is not related to SAMP

[Jed]

Are you smart? That link is not related to SAMP

Smarter than you.SAMP is not the only thing which can be considered advertise.It can be project,business,etc.

[Raskit]

Once a cheater always a cheater, maybe you should consider your actions before going ahead with them, obviously cheating isn't allowed. If you don't have the decency to not cheat why should we have the decency to unban you?

>User A creates unban app (weapon spawning)
>Unbanned
>User B creates unban app (weapon spawning)
>Denied
>User B - "But you unbanned User A for using the same cheats!!"

Also this means that people are just gonna cheat knowing that if they make an appeal they'll be unbanned. They could just use an aimbot for instance for a couple of weeks before we latch onto it, then make an appeal knowing they'll be unbanned, what's the point?

[Hawk]

Gonna be Neutral on this one.

If it should happen, I suggest that only people which have a certain score / time played should benefit from this chance.

The main disadvantage which this will have is, that if everyone gets a second chance then most people will abuse.