Core Changes [Sawn off,Cops & Criminals]

[RiseOfTheDark]

That's the point of the suggestion. Not everyone will be an easy target to kill. Everyone will have an equal chance to kill.

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You must keep in mind that the sawn off 2 shot is a bug just like the deagle c-bug. There is no difference whatsoever.

Wait what? You're saying everyone doesnt have an equal chance to kill? Ofcourse not.. Its all about your aiming skills and samp experience. If you suck at 2shot you cant just go suggest to remove it. Its already goddamn hard to kill those cops without sawnoffs, imagine without it, the only thing you would do as a criminal is running away from your commands, instead they should nerf cops/swats/army commands. Imagine how unfair it would be for criminals..

This was suggested before and didnt make any sense, still doesnt.

-1

it won't change anything and will make criminals/Leo's OP, if criminals won't be able to use this bug, cops won't either, and army's too.

it's kinda pathetic that the common "fighting style" in this server is shooting with shotgun abusing a bug which in other servers called "no loading hack".

[Hawk]

1. HUGE +1

In army people don't even care anymore about using tanks to get reds, they just use a fast car and hunt with sawn offs. It would be fun for this to happen, a lot of more roleplaying and realism to the game.

2. + 1

3. +1

[OsamaAbouelhassan]

After thinking deeply of your suggestion ... I'm totally supporting it .. this is absolutely needed

[phyzx]

huge +1 for all the suggestions.

I am literally fed up with this 2 shot bug. Every time I try to log in the server to have some fun, I get shot down with 2 shots from 5 army members and kill me in a matter of seconds. It's not fair at all. Why should I use sawn offs to defend myself if i am not good with them? I quit a lot of san andreas servers because of the 2 shot bug because it's just an unfair advantage over other players. Ls-rcr is by far my favourite samp server I found but I am not having fun as much as i used to. It's becoming way more of a dueling server rather than a roleplay cops and robbers and I am seriously losing interest.

[CyClon3]

1. Neutral
The sawn-off bug is the main feature of this server, increasing the fun for all classes and skins. I also think the sawn-off shotgun is a bit over-powered and over-used but I'm afraid if these changes occur, the mechanism of fights will slow down and we will be stuck with strafe weapons mainly which the cops and robbers game mode wasn't designed for. Also, I remember sawn-off dueling on this server since the beginning of time - it's an unique feature here.

2. +1
Will help new players, yes!

3. +1, except map tweak
80% higher chance is a bit too high in my opinion, 25% sounds more appropriate - this add-on should be mentioned on the info of the class also. No for the map feature as it's overpowered to criminals, most cops won't even know where to find criminals.

[Moiz Nouman]

-1
+1
+1

Sawnoffs is the most used weapon in this game, and it is basically used for 2-shot purpose. One handed sawnoff will decrease the use of sawnoffs which will result in less fun.

[Game]

Wait what? You're saying everyone doesnt have an equal chance to kill? Ofcourse not.. Its all about your aiming skills and samp experience. If you suck at 2shot you cant just go suggest to remove it. Its already goddamn hard to kill those cops without sawnoffs, imagine without it, the only thing you would do as a criminal is running away from your commands, instead they should nerf cops/swats/army commands. Imagine how unfair it would be for criminals..

This was suggested before and didnt make any sense, still doesnt.

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@Aiming skills? What?! All you do is just run around in circles and hope for some clear shots.

LOL!! Holy fuck, do you really think like that? ''Hope for some clear shots'' lmao...

I just dont have any comment to that.

I dont know what you're doing but i dont hope for clear shots, I make them happen.

[Shady]

Alright let's say you are right then and you make them happen

You can't deny the fact that the 2-shot is a bug/glitch and it's basically using a bug which gives you an advantage. Just tell me one difference,just one,what difference there is from sawn off 2 shot and deagle c-bug. I'm sure whoever is familiar with c-bug says they make it happen aswell but what they are actually doing is just using a bug for their advantage. I already made it clear that 2 shot will still stay in the server but limited to fightclub only,that way only dueling fanatics can enjoy their 2 shot duels. Keep in mind that this is a roleplay cops and robbers server,the main and core gameplay should not be the 2 shot bug. As much as we're gaining players that likes to 2-shot,we're losing a lot of players that dislikes it and I do not want that to happen. Even some of the tagged members in this suggestion are agreeing that this should be changed and they are aware of what's happening.

This bug has been around since ls-rcr was created but my intention is not to remove it completely, I just want it to be tweaked so everyone can have fun around the server.

2 shooting in fightclub
One handed sawn offs outside

Everyone will be aces

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Sawnoffs is the most used weapon in this game, and it is basically used for 2-shot purpose. One handed sawnoff will decrease the use of sawnoffs which will result in less fun.

Thanks for your opinion but I would like to tell you this. There are soooo many other weapons other than sawnoffs. This will bring new gameplay and new action around ls-rcr. I can name 3 close range weapons on the top of my head that are the UZI,Tec9 and the Shotgun

Everyone went crazy when the cophunt rule was removed but eventually everyone adapted = we gained a new gameplay
Everyone went crazy when the deagle drive by was removed but eventually everyone adapted = we gained a new gameplay
Now this is a same situation. If we agree to limit the sawn-off we can bring a much better gameplay to our tables.

// I know i said I won't reply anymore to avoid any arguments but I felt like I had to explain into more detail //

[Aleksa]

+1 for Removing sawns and adding them into a fightclub.

[Thursday]

IF Sawn-off removed,Leos now allowed to enter FC