Remove Vortex from groups (ADDED POLL)

[CriticaL]

Nope, I couldn't disagree more. Vortex vehicle doesn't have to be removed since the groups' leaders donate for it(Yes, Kaosx, I red the whole comments).

Also that, it's way easy to take down a vortex, if you're professionals and able to take down a vortex, why does it even bother you? There are about 3 tactics to take down a vortex.

Factions have many over-powered vehicles and features.

When you suggested something to be added(Auto-jail for /bc and /q) for the LEOs, you said "Don't commit crimes if you don't want to be arrested.", didn't you? Yes, you did. Why don't they say "Don't be LEO, if you don't want be killed."? What makes you laugh about that? It actually makes sense.

Well, there won't be clear and obvious answer for the question I asked.

I'll just add something more that makes me defensive about this matter.

Absynth's crew members are allowed to use this while being in LEO's skin. So, yes it's not that over-powered(compared to SWAT's features and ARMY's vehicles) as you are explaining, especially when LEOs use it too.

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The next suggestion will be like; make criminals automatically /handsup when a LEO is near them, lol.

[Kaosx234]

Nope, I couldn't disagree more. Vortex vehicle doesn't have to be removed since the groups' leaders donate for it(Yes, Kaosx, I red the whole comments).

Also that, it's way easy to take down a vortex, if you're professionals and able to take down a vortex, why does it even bother you? There are about 3 tactics to take down a vortex.

Factions have many over-powered vehicles and features.

When you suggested something to be added(Auto-jail for /bc and /q) for the LEOs, you said "Don't commit crimes if you don't want to be arrested.", didn't you? Yes, you did. Why don't they say "Don't be LEO, if you don't want be killed."? What makes you laugh about that? It actually makes sense.

Well, there won't be clear and obvious answer for the question I asked.

I'll just add something more that makes me defensive about this matter.

Absynth's crew members are allowed to use this while being in LEO's skin. So, yes it's not that over-powered(compared to SWAT's features and ARMY's vehicles) as you are explaining, especially when LEOs use it too.

Spoiler: show

The next suggestion will be like; make criminals automatically /handsup when a LEO is near them, lol.

You clearly did not read all my posts or you simply jumped from a point to a point. I clearly stated that when Seniors realise that group-vortex are just made to ruin others gameplay that vortex should and must be removed after the expiration of the so-called donation (which clearly is not 3DPs per each user in the group * each vehicle). Argument they donated for it clearly does not hold the water.

There are numerous of tactics, but I did not spawn as a cop to shoot one suspect constantly, all day long. If I, by any chance, try to go for another suspect, the vortex-guy will just come behind me and aimbot me. Yes, it does bother me.
Even that it is fine, but when he brings up a team mate with another vortex, you do not have any tactic to destroy both of vortexes, there is 1 tactic how to defend yourself - not going to spread out.

You need to pass loads of stuff to be in those "factions". Also factions do have rules and groups do not have rules, therefore, again this argument does not hold the water.

I did not join in this server to support vehicle which have aimbot. Maybe in sooner future, donating to have cheats will be here? Will you use the same argument if you don't want to die - don't be a cop? Don't make fun out of yourself.

[Shady]

Official Groups should only be limited to certain kind of vehicles that doesn't have any advantages over other vehicles. That's my opinion and we agree on that.

However i still don't think there will be any major changes if this suggestion gets approved. You know why? Because if a user wants to donate for a vortex,he can still do it and start giving keys to anyone he wants.

I understand the frustration about getting raped with 3 players driving the vortex but honestly,isn't getting raped by 3 players using 2-shots the same thing? Or getting blown up by Army tank with one blast?

tl;dr: +1 on the suggestion but don't let it bother you so much. If you can't beat them,don't chase them. Chase other criminals. Vortex is slow so it's impossible for them to keep up when you have a Sultan or an Infernus.

[Kaosx234]

Official Groups should only be limited to certain kind of vehicles that doesn't have any advantages over other vehicles. That's my opinion and we agree on that.

However i still don't think there will be any major changes if this suggestion gets approved. You know why? Because if a user wants to donate for a vortex,he can still do it and start giving keys to anyone he wants.

I understand the frustration about getting raped with 3 players driving the vortex but honestly,isn't getting raped by 3 players using 2-shots the same thing? Or getting blown up by Army tank with one blast?

tl;dr: +1 on the suggestion but don't let it bother you so much. If you can't beat them,don't chase them. Chase other criminals. Vortex is slow so it's impossible for them to keep up when you have a Sultan or an Infernus.

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When there were no group-vortex vehicles, there were no arguments, having vortex as a group vehicle is not as same as giving keys.

I am always for removing sawnoffs or to disable 2shot. Army tank has rules, vortex does not.


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Once again, I did not choose to be cop to be chased. If I wanted to be chased, I would pick criminal skin.

[The_Fury]

This Suggestion literally help swat no one else, let me explain why
1st of all as triple said if you don't want to die don't be a cop just like david said if you don't want to be a criminal don't be, a new system has been added which help swat alot in fact we all know this suggestion helps swats only, However dollarman/absynth donated for it, if you remove vortex Dollarman/absynth should get their money back which is indeed not helpful for the server, as for army got tank/hunter/hydra/sparrow/rustler, + Mason nailed it, there are 2 ways of making the vortex useless and nowadays Terrorists not using the vortex that much as i can see i'm in holiday and literally sitting on my ass on this chair on ls-rcr, so -1 for this

[Lolmomlol]

ok i got a solution, keep vortex, remove auto-aim, it was removed from before (it was announced) so why not remove it again?

[The_Fury]

ok i got a solution, keep vortex, remove auto-aim, it was removed from before (it was announced) so why not remove it again?

The autoaim is from Gta/samp idk from who exactly but it's not from ls-rcr, eve n if it's from ls-rcr donations to ls-rcr will be low and that's something no one of us would love to happen, right?

[Lolmomlol]

ok i got a solution, keep vortex, remove auto-aim, it was removed from before (it was announced) so why not remove it again?

The autoaim is from Gta/samp idk from who exactly but it's not from ls-rcr, eve n if it's from ls-rcr donations to ls-rcr will be low and that's something no one of us would love to happen, right?

so the donations comes ONLY from vortex's ? nice, and, Tamer removed it once, idk why it was added again -dont remember- so why not remove it again?

[The_Fury]

ok i got a solution, keep vortex, remove auto-aim, it was removed from before (it was announced) so why not remove it again?

The autoaim is from Gta/samp idk from who exactly but it's not from ls-rcr, eve n if it's from ls-rcr donations to ls-rcr will be low and that's something no one of us would love to happen, right?

so the donations comes ONLY from vortex's ? nice, and, Tamer removed it once, idk why it was added again -dont remember- so why not remove it again?

i never said donations are from Vortex ONLY i said it's a factor from the factors why Ls-rcr players are donating, if you remember it got removed and added again in the same day

[David]

This Suggestion literally help swat no one else, let me explain why
1st of all as triple said if you don't want to die don't be a cop just like david said if you don't want to be a criminal don't be, a new system has been added which help swat alot in fact we all know this suggestion helps swats only, However dollarman/absynth donated for it, if you remove vortex Dollarman/absynth should get their money back which is indeed not helpful for the server, as for army got tank/hunter/hydra/sparrow/rustler, + Mason nailed it, there are 2 ways of making the vortex useless and nowadays Terrorists not using the vortex that much as i can see i'm in holiday and literally sitting on my ass on this chair on ls-rcr, so -1 for this

-This suggestion helps on S.W.A.T? Are you kidding me? Seems like you are not active enough on server to see people in vortex killing every LEO. Soo this suggestion helps every LEO not only S.W.A.T team.

-Yes Dollarman and Absynth donated for it but i dont think Absynth donated for it just soo he can increase his group and let every newbie use a vortex aimbot just soo they can provoke people around. And as for Dollarman we all know that he pretty much dosent care who is in his group he will let anyone use his vortex just soo they can provoke LEO but specialy S.W.A.T Team.

-Fury go to Army forum page and read rules about every army vehicle because its seems like you havent read them. Every vehicle in army has a rule atleast 3 rules per vehicle some of them even have more. But as for vortex he has AIMBOT and not even a single rule mate, Do you see a difference?

-People said it 100 times but i will say again because seems like he doesnt read. Its not a problem if there is 1 VORTEX attacking you but the problem is when he brings anoher friend and then 2 or more vortexs starts attacking you with their aimbot there is nothing u can do. And when they finally kill you they will just start doing it again and again.