Remove Vortex from groups (ADDED POLL)

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Remove Vortex from groups?

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No
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Post by Demon. » February 12, 2016, 6:53 pm
You forgot that you don't even need to get tested to use one *Jawzom Terroist application*
Can't you guys understand ? Taking out one vortex is easy, taking out 3 vortex isnt.

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Post by Abstract » February 12, 2016, 7:08 pm
Do people who use aimbot get banned for it? Yes.

Vortex basically is aimbot, yet you don't get banned for using it. So you can basically cheat without the risk of getting banned.

Let's see. In real life, let's say you're driving a hoverboat, and you have a sub-machine gun. If you start shooting at someone, will it auto aim for you? I guess not, hm. You see? Having aimbot for vortex makes no sense!

"Los Santos Roleplay Cops and Robbers." - Roleplay means: Developing and acting with a fictional character created by the player playing the character. The morals, background, biography, values etc. are defined by the player who develops the character. Normally roleplay also involves following a set of rules to keep the roleplay as realistic as possible, but without ruining the entertainment value from it.

Clearly, vortex aimbot is NOT realistic.

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tl;dr version: always +1*, this is roleplay server and vortex aimbot not realistic.
I do not want to start an argument, I'm just expressing my own opinion, everyone has a right to do so. So if you disagree with me, fine, but don't go all mad on me.
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Post by Carl_J » February 12, 2016, 7:28 pm
TalisRain222 wrote:

tl;dr version: always -1, this is roleplay server and vortex aimbot not realistic.
Do you mean +1?

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Post by Kurtiso » February 12, 2016, 7:28 pm
TalisRain222 wrote:
Do people who use aimbot get banned for it? Yes.

Vortex basically is aimbot, yet you don't get banned for using it. So you can basically cheat without the risk of getting banned.

Let's see. In real life, let's say you're driving a hoverboat, and you have a sub-machine gun. If you start shooting at someone, will it auto aim for you? I guess not, hm. You see? Having aimbot for vortex makes no sense!

"Los Santos Roleplay Cops and Robbers." - Roleplay means: Developing and acting with a fictional character created by the player playing the character. The morals, background, biography, values etc. are defined by the player who develops the character. Normally roleplay also involves following a set of rules to keep the roleplay as realistic as possible, but without ruining the entertainment value from it.

Clearly, vortex aimbot is NOT realistic.

Hoverboat:
Spoiler: show

tl;dr version: always -1, this is roleplay server and vortex aimbot not realistic.
I do not want to start an argument, I'm just expressing my own opinion, everyone has a right to do so. So if you disagree with me, fine, but don't go all mad on me.
To be honest, what you've just said has no meaning at all, and isn't even a reason to get the Vortex removed from groups.

Let me clear something for you. This isn't a hardcore Role-play server, but a light one. Means, there are a lot of circumistances in game which should never be compared with real life.

Nothing personal towards you.
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Post by Abstract » February 12, 2016, 7:35 pm
[Lsrcr]Carl_J wrote:
TalisRain222 wrote:

tl;dr version: always -1, this is roleplay server and vortex aimbot not realistic.
Do you mean +1?
yes sorry lmao

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Post by Faraon78910 » February 12, 2016, 8:31 pm
[Lsrcr]CriticaL wrote:
When you suggested something to be added(Auto-jail for /bc and /q) for the LEOs, you said "Don't commit crimes if you don't want to be arrested.", didn't you? Yes, you did. Why don't they say "Don't be LEO, if you don't want be killed."? What makes you laugh about that? It actually makes sense.
Exactly, everyone who doesn't understand this is retarded, nothing more.

@Kaos, it's cops and robbers, make it fair for both, not just for one, + your all arguments are retarded just as you

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Post by Kaosx234 » February 12, 2016, 8:38 pm
Faraon78910 wrote:
[Lsrcr]CriticaL wrote:
When you suggested something to be added(Auto-jail for /bc and /q) for the LEOs, you said "Don't commit crimes if you don't want to be arrested.", didn't you? Yes, you did. Why don't they say "Don't be LEO, if you don't want be killed."? What makes you laugh about that? It actually makes sense.
Exactly, everyone who doesn't understand this is retarded, nothing more.

@Kaos, it's cops and robbers, make it fair for both, not just for one, + your all arguments are retarded just as you
If my arguments are retarded, care to elaborate the reasons? Or you simply want to boost your post count? ;)
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Post by The_Fury » February 13, 2016, 6:37 am
Lets talk for real here, whoever suggested this so far is swat member, it's weird don't say it's not, lol
Swat/army/pagati are not machines you have to get tested to play in these skins and use it's Vehs, As i said above swat/army's Veh are harmful for innocents you don't get disarmed when you shoot an innocent with tank, LOL if you don't want to get killed by 3 4 5 6 vortex or whatever, don't get near them or get a tank AND RAM THE FUCK OUTTA OF THEM, same to swat get a car then put a swat bomb then BOOOOOM in the middle of these 3 Vortex's and they will Insta explode, when i had swat bomb and dark was playing with vortex with tro and someone from terrorist i killed 2 and dragged 1 lol, Now lets get to our main point, You pass a test to play with vortex in terrorist, also you Pass a test to play with swat bomb/rb/Or that invisable shit and with army vehs, So it's fair n square do you guys Wish this server only Law enforcers to be OP and not criminals? Bitch please if you remove this from the groups remove army and swat vehs, Lets play it fair n square, or put a rule to the vortex Just as rule for Army veh and swat veh, so YOU BETTER PUT A RULE ABOUT IT BUT NOT TO REMOVE IT However for an answer to rain, don't ever compare this server with Something in real life, Because in real life you won't type /bc you won't make a base infront of lspd with group named terrorist and auto aim with vortex, you won't make Swat put rb from no where in Real life, so yeah LSRCR is not a roleplay server it's a light rp server.
And an answer for kaosx, If you think this is an insult then yeah, ik how you look like in real life : ))))
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Post by The_Fury » February 13, 2016, 6:40 am
Kaosx234 wrote:
Faraon78910 wrote:
[Lsrcr]CriticaL wrote:
When you suggested something to be added(Auto-jail for /bc and /q) for the LEOs, you said "Don't commit crimes if you don't want to be arrested.", didn't you? Yes, you did. Why don't they say "Don't be LEO, if you don't want be killed."? What makes you laugh about that? It actually makes sense.
Exactly, everyone who doesn't understand this is retarded, nothing more.

@Kaos, it's cops and robbers, make it fair for both, not just for one, + your all arguments are retarded just as you
If my arguments are retarded, care to elaborate the reasons? Or you simply want to boost your post count? ;)
Actually it's retarded because critical nailed it also you are trying to remove Vortex from group instead to put for them rules which means you want Swat/army/LSPD to be op on criminals, and no this will not happen in any time soon baby.
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Post by Mr.DollarMan » February 13, 2016, 8:49 am
An argument going on? Where the hell was I? Haha! I love it. Ok, so let’s begin.
If there is a way to beat vortex then I don't think that there is point of not keeping it in any group. It's a part of cop hunting and it's not violating any rules.
When the LEOS will die of course they will feel bad and will go against the vortex. Tank is also OP vehicle, there is no vehicle in the server which can beat a tank, but what's the tactic to beat a tank is to jump on it and you guys already know that there are several ways to beat a vortex.
Just because you guys get killed easily, you don't want it to be in any group. Some members of other group are against it because they don't have it and since I'm not making any agreement with any other group they are a bit angry about it. Because either they have to stay in their previous group or they have to be in Terrorists, this thing is pain in the ass for those people.

As Game said, Vortex user can easily get disarmed because of the innocents and this is one of its biggest disadvantages. It happens mostly when we are shooting a cop from nowhere an innocent player appears and disarms us and we have no choice but either to get arrested or to die.
Other than this, Vortex's hp gets decreased very quickly; it takes too much damage as compare to a normal car. Even if you ram a vortex it starts to leave black smoke, which is a sign for low HP and when a vortex is leaving black smoke from its engine then it's a lot harder to control it and move it faster.

If there are advantages of vortexes then there are also disadvantage of vortexes.

Rules for vortex wow! Now a vehicle which has an aimbot should be given some rules. It cannot harm innocents so there is no point of making a rule for driving it.
Players are getting these vehicles because the leaders have already paid for the vehicles.
If it's like paying every month then every group in the server should pay for their vehicles every month since they are also special vehicles which are only buyable via donation points or custom donations. All those vehicles which are not in the buying list of car-shops and they are in any group are special vehicles and which can only be get by donating for it. If that's what you want then every group should pay equally every month for the custom/special vehicles they are using.
If you are creating a group and a base it has its own perks and advantages with it. They don't have to pay every month for their vehicles. We donated for the vortex and we allowed our members only to drive it, as all other groups have the system. You guys are mad about it because you hardly stand a chance against us. When a player donates a vortex and gives keys to other, then i don't see anyone yelling and complaining, it's also the same as giving keys.

Army vehicles have rules and vortex doesn't.
1: If a rule has to be added for vortex it would have been added since the day it was added in the server.
2: One of the major reasons why Army vehicles have rules for it because, they are highly OP and they can highly damages the civilians. That's also the reason why players get auto-banned when they try to use the Army vehicles, because everyone knows that the damage which army vehicles can cause no other vehicle can cause.
3: A rule for a vortex? Are you fucking kidding? You are comparing vortex with Army vehicles? Vortex doesn't stand a chance against any special army vehicle. Does the player using an army vehicle gets disarmed if a innocent comes in front of his target? No, it blows away the civilian as well, that's why a rule is added. If a civilian comes in front of the vortex then bang, you are disarmed. Also I have described a lot of Disadvantages of vortex above.


Since when is cop hunting in a vortex considered as bitching and provoking? If they kill you with a vortex and enjoy it, you will consider it as bitching and provoking? Very clever.
A vortex can go in a place full of Leos and kill them all right? Well in such places either there are innocents or other wanted to disarm the vortex users or the cops place is called the safe zone, where we shoot the cops and get disarmed. Besides the tactics, cops/swat/army has other weapons to destroy or get rid of vortex. Cops have safe zone, the car tactic, Swat has their Swat bomb and Roadblock, spin around the road block and destroy the vortex or just bomb the vortex with your swat bomb, Army has tank, Hydra, grenades. Don't pretend that it's hard to beat a vortex or try to find new and newer excuses for the vortexes just because you don't like it.

If I wouldn't care that who is in my group I wouldn't have been denying members, I wouldn't have kept the test system, What I would have done would be that I would have make agreements with all other groups so they can also join it and kill LEO's right?. Got it?

This is a COPS and ROBBERS server rights? Then both should have equal benefits, LEO's shouldn't be given extra benefits. If I start counting the benefits of LEO's it's much more than the benefits of Criminals/Robbers. For all those commenting this is a COPS and Robbers server, first see whether they are equally treated or not then post such comments.

More Comments to come please bring it on but one request please. Don’t try to change the topic now.
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