Remove Vortex from groups (ADDED POLL)

[Kaosx234]

Please, i won't read all of this but dollarman has a point, Also i have one since if you don't want to die don't spawn as a law enforcer, DOLLARMAN donated for it, you can't do anything about it he got it fair n square for his group and it's nothing of your own Business to say if members are joining his group for vortex or not However As i said above factions are not machines but vortex is a machine to kill, Many ways are invented to win a vortex, according to kaosx he made 1 and he is from the best guys can do it but he still Argue to remove it lol, However if there are 3 vortex vs you you will Surely Die, if you are crying about your death spawn as a civilian, Vortex has auto aim, If vortex got removed in any way from groups then i will suggest to add a rule about the 2 shots bug, lets see how you ''duelers'' will complain or whoever agree to remove vortex Also i would like to add that adding a rule to vortex is lame, Whenever you shoot with it on innocent you get disarmed but not with Swat veh or army veh and i'm Pretty sure this suggestion after all these useless arguements will get rejected, Also let me state something here Army/swat got their own Veh so terrorists does too, So i can't see any problem here if you remove this vortex from Groups then lets remove swat bomb, Shall we? : ))))).

@demon, Be fast if you tazed or cuffed them and they did /bc then /q they will be auto jailed According to drastic's topic so i can't find any reason to remove vortex for now, or even it's Auto aim.

SWAT bomb has a rule, vortex does not have a rule. In case vortex has a rule, we can debate in a way to remove SWAT bomb and vortex overall.

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You clearly did not read all my posts or you simply jumped from a point to a point. I clearly stated that when Seniors realise that group-vortex are just made to ruin others gameplay that vortex should and must be removed after the expiration of the so-called donation (which clearly is not 3DPs per each user in the group * each vehicle). Argument they donated for it clearly does not hold the water. (explanation for idiots: if this gets accepted, vortex will expire at the end of their donation)

There are numerous of tactics, but I did not spawn as a cop to shoot one suspect constantly, all day long. If I, by any chance, try to go for another suspect, the vortex-guy will just come behind me and aimbot me. Yes, it does bother me.
Even that it is fine, but when he brings up a team mate with another vortex, you do not have any tactic to destroy both of vortexes, there is 1 tactic how to defend yourself - not going to spread out.

You need to pass loads of stuff to be in those "factions". Also factions do have rules and groups do not have rules, therefore, again this argument does not hold the water.

I did not join in this server to support vehicle which have aimbot. Maybe in sooner future, donating to have cheats will be here? Will you use the same argument if you don't want to die - don't be a cop? Don't make fun out of yourself.

There was 50-50 to remove 2shot (Shaco suggested it).

Swat bomb has a rule because it can harm innocents but Vortex doesn't because it can't, got it? or you will keep quoting your Words every single post? retarded as faraon said, if seniors See that Vortex for groups is to ruin your gameplay they wouldn't add it in the first place, Absynth wouldn't donate for it, you can't know better than Assistant senior admins, lol, '' you pass loads of stuff to be in faction'' also you pass loads of stuff to be in a group LOL the thing is, Factions and groups are the same except factions got the resources and the name of a faction but nothing else, If you want two factions to play with these OP stuff without criminals Having a faction or group to get OP Stuff in it then you are a censored and want the best for your own not for others, FACTIONS GOT OP SHIT SO DOES TERRORIST, NO MISTAKES IN THAT AND IF YOU REMOVE VORTEX I WILL SUGGEST TO REMOVE SWAT STUFF AND ARMY'S K? if the seniors think this is not fair, then they would remove the 2 shots two And the mountain bike, k baby?
get r3kt.

Which OP shit does Army/SWAT have that does not have rules?

You clearly need to start work on your vocabulary.

[The_Fury]

@Kaosx, now you start to laugh about my english? PLEASE kaosx said '' your argument is weak''
@Kaosx x2, I didn't say that army/swat got op veh that doesn't has rules, i said that If army and swat got OP veh, why not groups too?

[Mr.DollarMan]

Terrorists are active? Since when? I saw only one time that you are all on one car. Other than that, your members are going solo with vortex (that doesn't make a group active since we both know => would you rather go with skin without vortex or with a vortex.
You said this Some members of other group are against it because they don't have it and since I'm not making any agreement. You obviously said that you have something what other groups do not, and it is vortex, isn't it?

Yes they are active. Since when a group is to be recognized if they team? Hahaha. New logic here. Going solo in skin makes a group inactive. LMAO!
I didn't say what I have in my group others don't, in fact I gave the reason why my group is active and why some of the other players of other groups are against this. Re-read it. Lol.

Can Vortex tanks be moved reverse? No it can't, can Vortex tanks make sharp turns, no it can't, can Vortex tanks move faster? No it can't. [/i]. My comparation: Does tank have rules? Yes, it has. Does vortex have rules, no it does not.

Simple answer: Can a tank user be disarmed? NO. Can a vortex user be disarmed? Yes. Can a Tank destroy Vortex? Yes. Can a Vortex destroy a tank? NO. Even tank can destroy every vehicle by just hitting/ramming it. Your way of comparing is a lot weaker then mines.

You're too lazy to search for it? Just name me a unique SWAT vehicle, I dare you. In case you answered my points back in time (you posted only few times), care to quote them?

I'm not too lazy, as i said I will stick to the topic which I'm good at, not like you guys going off topic. You have a water canon vehicle and other than that compare your other features like SWAT Bomb, Roadbloack and above all that you are S.W.A.T (Special weapons and tactics) you guys are skilled rights and have tactics and yet still crying against vortex. Hahaha. Chage the name to S>W>AT (Surely Weepers and Trollers) That would suite it. If you have tactics then this argument is really useless.

It's not almost the same. When there were no vortex for groups, there were no arguments about it. It was 3DPs/monthly to keep up the server. Since even you said by your own self that you do not pay in monthly (you do not help server anymore with upkeeping those vortexes and other vehicles), how does this help server? If you have those permanent, you clearly make donations fewer than it was. So basically, it is even worse. Thanks!

Back then cop hunting was not allowed. Again the same answer. When you donate for a group or a base you have some perks and advantages for it. I guess you are not reading this sentence.

Lets ask Admins to post here (preferably Seniors) if you can go for the same guy to rob/break/rape him continuously. Let's not forget the /dkidnap thing too. In case I am allowed to do that, I won't hesitate to do that in sooner future. If you are civilian, it is your freedom to choose whether to be chased or not (to be wanted to chill). Once you get wanted - you clearly want to be chased by fellow police officers. Cophunting is shooting police without a reason. If you do not let people to enjoy their game by coming continuously to them, it is not cop hunting but bitching.

Again, you are dragging the other things here. We are talking whether killing the LEOS again and again as a wanted is bitching or not. It's called cop hunting, how hard is it for you to understand? should i write in your language?
To remind you here is a link for it. viewtopic.php?f=11&t=66725

Which points did I miss? If your paragraph is useless then it is useless. You are saying known things such as safezone.
If there was an OP tool in vehicle, that doesn't make vortex less OP. That is why was your paragrapgh useless.
And lol, you're "big boys"? Did a wise man told you that if you kill (in real life) Sunday or myself that you'll go to heaven? I still remember when you said that in mainchat @ LS-RCR. You clearly are not a wise man.

My facts were bringing you down so you called them useless. These are known things and yet you guys ignore it and don't compare it so, it had to be reminded and what about the "COPS and ROBBERS SERVER" part? You find that also useless because it's true what I have written?
Your entire argument is useless since you know how to beat a vortex and you are S.W.A.T ( Special weapons and tactics) <--Lmao, that doesn't give you a reason to cry.
Again, off topic. Omg how many times will you go off topic and please if you have any screen-shot regarding this thing provide it so I can explain it, that what exactly happened and what I meant as far as I remember I don't remember saying such thing.
I'm a big boy and I said that happens when you argue with the big boys. Big boys was meant for all the other guys who can wrecked you easily in an argument.
You think you're the king of argument? Hahaha. Think again.

And the answer is (why do they hate you...?)

Because I'm successful and many other reason. This is a new way to go off the topic now you will surely go off the topic once more.
One thing is proved when you can't argue by staying within the topic you choose to go off the topic. Hahaha. Thanks for proving that again and again though.

I'm loving it!

[Carl_J]

[Mr.DollarMan]

Hahaha.

[Kaosx234]

Yes they are active. Since when a group is to be recognized if they team? Hahaha. New logic here. Going solo in skin makes a group inactive. LMAO!
I didn't say what I have in my group others don't, in fact I gave the reason why my group is active and why some of the other players of other groups are against this. Re-read it. Lol.

You failed to answer my question. Would you rather like go with same skin without fancy vehicles and drug spawn or you would rather join in the same skin with those fancy vehicle and drug spawn. The answer is the 2nd option (unless someone is brain damaged). Why? Because fancy vehicles = vortex => people most of the time apply for a group which has something fancy in it => here we go again the Terrorist group.

Why would someone apply for another group if Terrorists have everything what other groups have + other stuff.

Simple answer: Can a tank user be disarmed? NO. Can a vortex user be disarmed? Yes. Can a Tank destroy Vortex? Yes. Can a Vortex destroy a tank? NO. Even tank can destroy every vehicle by just hitting/ramming it. Your way of comparing is a lot weaker then mines.

You are implying that you cannot destroy tank whatsoever? Not even when you are orange? Well I won't talk here about your or mine's skills, but in case you are orange, tank should not be the problem.

Simple question: can Terrorists be warned if they shoot innocent people? Nope (they do not get terrorist warn). Can Army, which shoot by the tank, that shoot civilians be warned? Yes, not one warning but two.

I'm not too lazy, as i said I will stick to the topic which I'm good at, not like you guys going off topic. You have a water canon vehicle and other than that compare your other features like SWAT Bomb, Roadbloack and above all that you are S.W.A.T (Special weapons and tactics) you guys are skilled rights and have tactics and yet still crying against vortex. Hahaha. Chage the name to S>W>AT (Surely Weepers and Trollers) That would suite it. If you have tactics then this argument is really useless.

Do you really thing that the water cannon is an OP vehicle? If you do, there are some issues with you, seriously. I still want to see "special vehicles" in SWAT, thanks. Every of the stuff has its rule. Yes, we are skilled because you guys prove that point, /q when you see us . Insulting a fellow faction is a great way to show how mature you are.

Back then cop hunting was not allowed. Again the same answer. When you donate to a group or a base you have some perks and advantages for it. I guess you are not reading this sentence.

You really enjoy pay2win games, don't you? Parent's cash is the best cash , a famous quote, eh. Anyway, I don't want to see this server pay2win, that is why I am posting here in the first place.

Again, you are dragging the other things here. We are talking whether killing the LEOS again and again as a wanted is bitching or not. It's called cop hunting, how hard is it for you to understand? should i write in your language?
To remind you here is a link for it. viewtopic.php?f=11&t=66725

How am I dragging other things here? If you are continuously attacking the same person and you spawn at PD where he spawns, you are not letting him play his game. I doubt if you could write that in my language since you are having problem with typing in English. That case was in SWAT base, and SWAT base - as far as I know - has gates.

My facts were bringing you down so you called them useless. These are known things and yet you guys ignore it and don't compare it so, it had to be reminded and what about the "COPS and ROBBERS SERVER" part? You find that also useless because it's true what I have written?

Which "facts" brought me down, lol?

Your entire argument is useless since you know how to beat a vortex and you are S.W.A.T ( Special weapons and tactics) <--Lmao, that doesn't give you a reason to cry.

I am the father of the tactic how to defeat a vortex. Anyone who is using the car-shield tactics - uses owing to me. It is not problem 1 vortex, it is problem when 1 person constantly attacks you, you cannot go for another suspect because, once again I'll repeat myself, he will simply come and DB your ass (while you do not pay attention on anyone but the suspect).

Again, off topic. Omg how many times will you go off topic and please if you have any screen-shot regarding this thing provide it so I can explain it, that what exactly happened and what I meant as far as I remember I don't remember saying such thing.
I'm a big boy and I said that happens when you argue with the big boys. Big boys was meant for all the other guys who can wrecked you easily in an argument.
You think you're the king of argument? Hahaha. Think again.

Didn't you call me "not a big boy", who went off the topic here, again. You are being funny at the moment. I don't need any screenshot since this is not a rulebreak but simply shows your immaturity towards this community.
I see that you are not arguing a lot with people, because you simply cannot say "wreck" after each of your post, smh. I just know that you're not arguing a lot, not sure whether or not am I king.

Because I'm successful and many other reason. This is a new way to go off the topic now you will surely go off the topic once more.
One thing is proved when you can't argue by staying within the topic you choose to go off the topic. Hahaha. Thanks for proving that again and again though.

Successful in what? In wasting your parent's cash? Yes, you are very successful there. You are the only one who tries to go off topic and I simply reply back.

I'm loving it too.

[CriticaL]

Couldn't resist laughing

The topic consists of more than 50k words, wtf just take a decision

[Accursed]

Both of them in period I guess ha ha ha

[Carl_J]

Added poll, please vote

[Mr.DollarMan]

You failed to answer my question. Would you rather like go with same skin without fancy vehicles and drug spawn or you would rather join in the same skin with those fancy vehicle and drug spawn. The answer is the 2nd option (unless someone is brain damaged). Why? Because fancy vehicles = vortex => people most of the time apply for a group which has something fancy in it => here we go again the Terrorist group.
Why would someone apply for another group if Terrorists have everything what other groups have + other stuff.

I would rather go for both of them. By asking questions again and again what do you want to provew hen you failed to argue with me? Seems like you are brain damaged because I would choose both of the ways. Yes, vortex is one of the reasons but not the major reason, that’s what you will never admit to.

You are implying that you cannot destroy tank whatsoever? Not even when you are orange? Well I won't talk here about your or mine's skills, but in case you are orange, tank should not be the problem.

No, I didn’t say that nor I meant that. I compared it with vortex, which you couldn’t understand.

Simple question: can Terrorists be warned if they shoot innocent people? Nope (they do not get terrorist warn). Can Army, which shoot by the tank, that shoot civilians be warned? Yes, not one warning but two.

They don’t get warned because civilians don’t completely die because of vortex shooting and besides that they will get auto-disarmed which is equal to a warning and annoying. Disarm is the solution for it.
Will the tank user get disarmed while shooting innocent? No. while a vortex user will. Compare things sensibly.

Do you really thing that the water cannon is an OP vehicle? If you do, there are some issues with you, seriously. I still want to see "special vehicles" in SWAT, thanks. Every of the stuff has its rule. Yes, we are skilled because you guys prove that point, /q when you see us . Insulting a fellow faction is a great way to show how mature you are.

It’s is not OP, you said special vehicle and I named it. Other than that it’s a bit OP as well, if you keep on using the water canon on the criminal he/she can’t standup and move and in the meanwhile you guys can cuff and arrest them.
Hahaha! if you guys would be skilled you wouldn’t have been crying the way you are crying right now. If you are complaing about the /q thing then let me tell you it isn’t against the rule that’s why we do it and if you guys were skilled then you wouldn’t have choose swat.

You really enjoy pay2win games, don't you? Parent's cash is the best cash , a famous quote, eh. Anyway, I don't want to see this server pay2win, that is why I am posting here in the first place.

Hahahaha, that’s where you proved your immaturity again. I own my own business, I spend my own money, I guess you are still in the stage of using your pocket money. Haha.

How am I dragging other things here? If you are continuously attacking the same person and you spawn at PD where he spawns, you are not letting him play his game. I doubt if you could write that in my language since you are having problem with typing in English. That case was in SWAT base, and SWAT base - as far as I know - has gates.

LOL. If a LEO continuously arrests or kills the same criminal will it be considered as bitching? If no then same goes for the cop hunting and for this I provided you a proof also.
No, I can type this whole thing in your language and explain it to you. I’m not having in writing English here and I think once you lost a bet against me on some sentence, don’t you. Or was it neutral, maybe we both were right on that thing. So better not to taunt me for English.

Which "facts" brought me down, lol?

Act like you don’t know. LOL.

I am the father of the tactic how to defeat a vortex. Anyone who is using the car-shield tactics - uses owing to me. It is not problem 1 vortex, it is problem when 1 person constantly attacks you, you cannot go for another suspect because, once again I'll repeat myself, he will simply come and DB your ass (while you do not pay attention on anyone but the suspect).

Seems like you don’t have enough skills to wrecked 2 vortex with your members at the same time. We never complained when you guys come as a team and kill one single player of us by using all of your means and tactics, so why are you guys now even with your so called skills?

Didn't you call me "not a big boy", who went off the topic here, again. You are being funny at the moment. I don't need any screenshot since this is not a rulebreak but simply shows your immaturity towards this community.
I see that you are not arguing a lot with people, because you simply cannot say "wreck" after each of your post, smh. I just know that you're not arguing a lot, not sure whether or not am I king.

I didn’t go off the topic, I replied to what you quoted, I stuck to the topic. Indeed you are, that’s what I proved and that’s what you proved by yourself.

Successful in what? In wasting your parent's cash? Yes, you are very successful there. You are the only one who tries to go off topic and I simply reply back/

LOL, again immaturity here, I spend my money, not like you to survive on your parent’s cash. Hahaha.
Omg, how funny is it that you think this way. xD
I’m the only one who goes off the topic? Lmao. Look at my replies and then look at yours and some players here can also judge that who’s going off topic here. Replying to your off the topic comments is what you call going off topic.

I’m loving it more!
Fixed.