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Post by Jaker » April 9, 2016, 11:27 am
Kaosx234 wrote:
If you cannot kill a 1v1 cop, then you, user, is unskilled.
Let's say the fight occurs in the desert. There are no vehicles around. A criminal and a cop are dueling. No side has killed the other one and both run out of stamina. Suddenly, the cop manages to come in range for a /taze and tazes the suspect. The suspect returns the same way, shocking the cop. The cop tazes again, the criminal shocks again and so on. Eventually the criminal will run out of all 6 shocks while the cop won't. Tell me, what chance does the criminal stand against the inevitable kill/arrest?
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Can I ask you, who appointed you as an Admin? If I was too rude, then you should re-read LSRCR rules and find that checkpoint abuse (picking armor in the middle of a fight) is punishable. If you are going to be enough clever, after you read the report for safezone abuse, you don't need even to check the report - because the safe zone is meant to be safe because you are safe from anything
What did I just read? This isn't real life. In that case criminals(yes, when they are wanted) should be able to be safe too. As cops have their ways of being safe irl, so do criminals.
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Post by Kaosx234 » April 9, 2016, 11:28 am
[Lsrcr]Gruty wrote:
It should be removed for hitmans when LEO is hitted
Please read my last sentence of Shaco's quote.
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Post by Razer531 » April 9, 2016, 11:28 am
kaos if i cant 1v1 cop that doesnt mean i am unskilled.... the thing is that you always need to watch for getting arrested + cops have unlimited taze and arresting ability like i already mentioned for 1231239102388479819451958798324798132498123479813479841783249817247981st time.
Besides, this has from one regular non-badintentioned suggestion turned into a real fighting debate which i didnt intend it to be. I just came here with normal suggestion, whilst other people started pooping on it with butthurting comments "ohhhh, so stupid", "lelz no sense" "wtf dis is getting denied" like they're doing it in all other topics of suggestions and improvements. So I juts asked them to stop and politely give legit thoughts and arguments, but somehow this topic turned out to become a "verbal slaughterhouse". Please stop all, someone make a final decision and lock this...

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Post by Shady » April 9, 2016, 11:30 am
Kaosx234 wrote:
Can I ask you, who appointed you as an Admin? If I was too rude, then you should re-read LSRCR rules and find that checkpoint abuse (picking armor in the middle of a fight) is punishable. If you are going to be enough clever, after you read the report for safezone abuse, you don't need even to check the report - because the safe zone is meant to be safe because you are safe from anything
Woah why are you lashing out for me? Jeez calm down man,why do you have to make it personal? We're just talking here,don't stir any argument :roll:

I never punish anyone for entering the safezone because you're right it's called safezone for a reason,that's the whole point of it. It's to be safe from any danger. I just pointed out that we (the admins) get a shitload of reports about it,that's all. I'm on your side of this suggestion,i don't want the safezone to be removed at all because when i used to get in cop skin to get weapons i get robbed my whole paycheck and it wasn't very a pleasant thing :lol:
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Post by Kaosx234 » April 9, 2016, 11:34 am
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Kaosx234 wrote:
Can I ask you, who appointed you as an Admin? If I was too rude, then you should re-read LSRCR rules and find that checkpoint abuse (picking armor in the middle of a fight) is punishable. If you are going to be enough clever, after you read the report for safezone abuse, you don't need even to check the report - because the safe zone is meant to be safe because you are safe from anything
Woah why are you lashing out for me? Jeez calm down man,why do you have to make it personal? We're just talking here,don't stir any argument :roll:

I never punish anyone for entering the safezone because you're right it's called safezone for a reason,that's the whole point of it. It's to be safe from any danger. I just pointed out that we (the admins) get a shitload of reports about it,that's all. I'm on your side of this suggestion,i don't want the safezone to be removed at all because when i used to get in cop skin to get weapons i get robbed my whole paycheck and it wasn't very a pleasant thing :lol:
You mentioned checkpoint abuse as in favor of your argument which is totally invalid. Is there any other way that I had to say? I didn't find any.
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Kaosx234 wrote:
If you cannot kill a 1v1 cop, then you, user, is unskilled.
Let's say the fight occurs in the desert. There are no vehicles around. A criminal and a cop are dueling. No side has killed the other one and both run out of stamina. Suddenly, the cop manages to come in range for a /taze and tazes the suspect. The suspect returns the same way, shocking the cop. The cop tazes again, the criminal shocks again and so on. Eventually the criminal will run out of all 6 shocks while the cop won't. Tell me, what chance does the criminal stand against the inevitable kill/arrest?
Why'd you 2 be in a desert? How often are you in the desert to use that example in your argument? Lolz. If you were running away from cops, why'd you try to fight them back if you lost in the driving chase.
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Can I ask you, who appointed you as an Admin? If I was too rude, then you should re-read LSRCR rules and find that checkpoint abuse (picking armor in the middle of a fight) is punishable. If you are going to be enough clever, after you read the report for safezone abuse, you don't need even to check the report - because the safe zone is meant to be safe because you are safe from anything
What did I just read? This isn't real life. In that case criminals(yes, when they are wanted) should be able to be safe too. As cops have their ways of being safe irl, so do criminals.
This is roleplay cops and robbers, therefore a minority of the server has to be roleplayish. But if you had read my whole paragraph, you'd see that I mentioned a reason why is the current cops vs criminals balanced.

I don't see where do have criminals have safe (minor ones). Only huge mafias do have their own HQs, otherwise a group of 10 people does not have their safe place, trust me.
kaos if i cant 1v1 cop that doesnt mean i am unskilled.... the thing is that you always need to watch for getting arrested + cops have unlimited taze and arresting ability like i already mentioned for 1231239102388479819451958798324798132498123479813479841783249817247981st time.
Besides, this has from one regular non-badintentioned suggestion turned into a real fighting debate which i didnt intend it to be. I just came here with normal suggestion, whilst other people started pooping on it with butthurting comments "ohhhh, so stupid", "lelz no sense" "wtf dis is getting denied" like they're doing it in all other topics of suggestions and improvements. So I juts asked them to stop and politely give legit thoughts and arguments, but somehow this topic turned out to become a "verbal slaughterhouse". Please stop all, someone make a final decision and lock this...
If you can 1v1, that means you are an unskilled user. One out of 4-5 times you might lost, but rest 4 times you will win.

Cops do not have unlimited tazes as the taze limit is up to 3 if you do not shock the cop. You also forget to mention that only few people can taze and cuff in a very short period of time. If 2 criminals are against 1 cop, the cop should not have any chance to win, unless again, if you are unskilled.

I won't stop arguing over this suggestion because hey, this is an open forum and you are trying to convince someone about your suggestion while I am stopping you doing it so. If you have anything better to say than "stop", don't do that. The only way you can see me stopping this is to ask an Admin to lock your suggestion.
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Post by Razer531 » April 9, 2016, 11:38 am
kaos what u said about unlimited taze and 1v1 stuff.. How do you still explain problem of when cops and robber are taze and shock-spamming each other till someone finally wins? Then the cop is ALWAYS going to win because he has more tazes. But that aint reportable

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Post by Kaosx234 » April 9, 2016, 11:40 am
Razer531 wrote:
kaos what u said about unlimited taze and 1v1 stuff.. How do you still explain problem of when cops and robber are taze and shock-spamming each other till someone finally wins? Then the cop is ALWAYS going to win because he has more tazes. But that aint reportable
You simply don't come in a situation of short fight if you see that a cop is trying to taze. It is very easy to escape a foot chase against cops ;) Also, if you are lack of skills, there is always a possibility to do it in a pussy way which is still allowed /q and come back. And no, this ain't a joke, it is still allowed, sadly.
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Post by Jaker » April 9, 2016, 11:41 am
You're right, there is no point in fighting the cops after losing the driving chase. I will get killed/arrested anyway because it's balanced.
You say taze limit is up to 3 if you do not shock the cop, sounds fair. That means: if I return the fight with shock, the cop will be allowed to /taze me. Eventually I will run out of /shock while the cop won't. He will then proceed to either kill or arrest me. If I on the other hand do NOT shock him, that mean's he is able and free to taze me 3 times in total. This gives him enough time to either kill or arrest me. How is that fair?

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Post by Kaosx234 » April 9, 2016, 11:43 am
Jaker wrote:
You're right, there is no point in fighting the cops after losing the driving chase. I will get killed/arrested anyway because it's balanced.
You say taze limit is up to 3 if you do not shock the cop, sounds fair. That means: if I return the fight with shock, the cop will be allowed to /taze me. Eventually I will run out of /shock while the cop won't. He will then proceed to either kill or arrest me. If I on the other hand do NOT shock him, that mean's he is able and free to taze me 3 times in total. This gives him enough time to either kill or arrest me. How is that fair?
As I already mentioned, you simply avoid the short fight situations. If you see that cop is going straightly to you, simply run away from him. I bet you can tap faster space button than other cop (or at least at the same speed). If that is not enough, quitting before he tazed/cuffed is still allowed.
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Post by Razer531 » April 9, 2016, 11:47 am
Kaosx234 wrote:
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kaos what u said about unlimited taze and 1v1 stuff.. How do you still explain problem of when cops and robber are taze and shock-spamming each other till someone finally wins? Then the cop is ALWAYS going to win because he has more tazes. But that aint reportable
You simply don't come in a situation of short fight if you see that a cop is trying to taze. It is very easy to escape a foot chase against cops ;) Also, if you are lack of skills, there is always a possibility to do it in a pussy way which is still allowed /q and come back. And no, this ain't a joke, it is still allowed, sadly.
Wait, what? very easy to escape a foot chase?
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Robbers aint faster than cops, like wat? And if you do manage to come to a vehicle u get cuffed and wont be able to lock the door. Also, u get tazed one time=u are dead because infinite taze. And i dont feel like always reconnecting like a pussy, then wtf is this.....
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