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Post by Shady » April 11, 2016, 3:26 pm
To be honest this is a game full of crime and violence. It's Grand Theft Auto for a reason,of course you will find players saying fuck the police and shit like that. Just listen to half of the songs on Radio Los Santos or google Gangsta Rap.

Now about this suggestion. I never really get why players involve religion in this game. Like dude,you're playing a game where you kill cops,rape civilians,kidnap people,can rob places and a shit ton of other crime. If you get easily offended by slurs about 'Allah' 'God' 'Jesus' or whoever you believe in then why do you play a game where you basically do everything that you shouldn't do. Isn't robbing/raping/kidnapping/murdering against your religion when you're catholic/christian/muslim etc...? It's the internet. You'll find these types of people everywhere. This is a gaming community not a religion forum.

By no means i'm not saying that you shouldn't have beliefs in a religion but don't expect all of the players to be crazy wacky religious. If however there's a case where the chat is being spammed by religious slurs I myself would be the first one to mute him.
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Post by M0z3eG » April 11, 2016, 3:55 pm
I Agree with you , This hurts me when I see the words such as this .
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Post by Mr.DollarMan » April 11, 2016, 4:16 pm
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To be honest this is a game full of crime and violence. It's Grand Theft Auto for a reason,of course you will find players saying fuck the police and shit like that. Just listen to half of the songs on Radio Los Santos or google Gangsta Rap.

Now about this suggestion. I never really get why players involve religion in this game. Like dude,you're playing a game where you kill cops,rape civilians,kidnap people,can rob places and a shit ton of other crime. If you get easily offended by slurs about 'Allah' 'God' 'Jesus' or whoever you believe in then why do you play a game where you basically do everything that you shouldn't do. Isn't robbing/raping/kidnapping/murdering against your religion when you're catholic/christian/muslim etc...? It's the internet. You'll find these types of people everywhere. This is a gaming community not a religion forum.

By no means i'm not saying that you shouldn't have beliefs in a religion but don't expect all of the players to be crazy wacky religious. If however there's a case where the chat is being spammed by religious slurs I myself would be the first one to mute him.
We are playing a game right? Then gaming means to enjoy and have fun not to hurt people's feeling or to offend them, just play your game have fun, why would you comment such thing which will offend someone? Besides there are rules, right? You have to follow the rules.
Okay if this is not a big deal then how about I should start offending people, or I start insulting them, their religion and their family or everything I can, then I shouldn't be punished for it.

Yeah it is a game then let it be a game, don’t involve such thing in game. This is a gaming community then you are supposed to play not to fuck around with your offending comments, simply play your game.
I don't expect that everyone should be religious here, what I expect and is right that nobody should offend anyone's religion or belief by insulting/mocking or any other mean which includes commenting. If this will be allowed then I will be the first one to start talking about religions and other things which might offend anyone, then nobody should cry for it.
Think wisely.
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Post by Shady » April 11, 2016, 4:49 pm
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We are playing a game right? Then gaming means to enjoy and have fun not to hurt people's feeling or to offend them, just play your game have fun, why would you comment such thing which will offend someone? Besides there are rules, right? You have to follow the rules.
Okay if this is not a big deal then how about I should start offending people, or I start insulting them, their religion and their family or everything I can, then I shouldn't be punished for it.

Yeah it is a game then let it be a game, don’t involve such thing in game. This is a gaming community then you are supposed to play not to fuck around with your offending comments, simply play your game.
I don't expect that everyone should be religious here, what I expect and is right that nobody should offend anyone's religion or belief by insulting/mocking or any other mean which includes commenting. If this will be allowed then I will be the first one to start talking about religions and other things which might offend anyone, then nobody should cry for it.
Think wisely.
Bold part: What kind of mentality is that? Why would you be the one starting to insult people about their religion or their family though? If no one is mentioning or disrespecting religions/families you shouldn't either. Let's be mature about this now ...

Also, aren't you the guy that has a group named 'Terrorists'. What about all the victims of terrorism? Shouldn't we not involve it since it is disrespecting all the victims of terrorism? Aren't Muslims/Catholics or any other religion against terrorism? So why are some of the religious community players joining this group if it's against their beliefs? I bet now you will play the it's just a game card.
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Post by Mr.DollarMan » April 11, 2016, 5:16 pm
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Bold part: What kind of mentality is that? Why would you be the one starting to insult people about their religion or their family though? If no one is mentioning or disrespecting religions/families you shouldn't either. Let's be mature about this now ...

Also, aren't you the guy that has a group named 'Terrorists'. What about all the victims of terrorism? Shouldn't we not involve it since it is disrespecting all the victims of terrorism? Aren't Muslims/Catholics or any other religion against terrorism? So why are some of the religious community players joining this group if it's against their beliefs? I bet now you will play the it's just a game card.
What kind of mentality is that? It's called tit for tat because being nice doesn't work always. I already told you why would I be the one starting it, however I will tell you again. I would be the one to start it because you and some other players think that's it's okay to talk shit about religions and their Gods well then to make them realize what does a person feel when they get offended, I must start talking about anything I want, because the community is okay with it and there's no punishment for it and it's not against the rules. Then the players must not cry about it because the community doesn't take action against it because some of the admins think that's it's okay to talk like this. You missed the amazing part, a few admins are not following it. You always pick the point to which you can answer back and you ignore the other things.

Yes, I have a group named Terrorists and it's not offending them in any major way. Religion is something way more important than this. Let's take it your way. Why you didn't point out army? There can be many victims whose families were killed during any army operation or maybe their women were raped by army of any country, it can be right? I'm sure you are well aware of these things related to army right?
They are joining it because it's group opposite to Army's name and yes I will tell you that it's a part of game. But offending someone by insulting their religion or God is not what a game is for.
I don't know whether you are an atheist or not but you act like one, by going totally against this suggestion, however I didn't offend you or to what you believe in. You don't support this because you are no offended by this.
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Post by Virgo » April 11, 2016, 5:57 pm
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Post by TititMonyet » April 11, 2016, 6:27 pm
+1, Because im a muslim and i offended by this
[Lsrcr]Jensen wrote:
“This is a 18+ game. Don't expect people to have the same opinions about your religion.
Myself, I disgrace Allah aswell because I'm atheist. I dont believe in God either. I think it’s bullshit. Sorry to say, but I do. ”
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Post by Shady » April 11, 2016, 6:29 pm
Mr.DollarMan wrote:
What kind of mentality is that? It's called tit for tat because being nice doesn't work always. I already told you why would I be the one starting it, however I will tell you again. I would be the one to start it because you and some other players think that's it's okay to talk shit about religions and their Gods well then to make them realize what does a person feel when they get offended, I must start talking about anything I want, because the community is okay with it and there's no punishment for it and it's not against the rules. Then the players must not cry about it because the community doesn't take action against it because some of the admins think that's it's okay to talk like this. You missed the amazing part, a few admins are not following it. You always pick the point to which you can answer back and you ignore the other things.

Yes, I have a group named Terrorists and it's not offending them in any major way. Religion is something way more important than this. Let's take it your way. Why you didn't point out army? There can be many victims whose families were killed during any army operation or maybe their women were raped by army of any country, it can be right? I'm sure you are well aware of these things related to army right?
They are joining it because it's group opposite to Army's name and yes I will tell you that it's a part of game. But offending someone by insulting their religion or God is not what a game is for.
I don't know whether you are an atheist or not but you act like one, by going totally against this suggestion, however I didn't offend you or to what you believe in. You don't support this because you are no offended by this.
I have religious beliefs but I won't let myself get offended just because a random guy that i don't know on the internet said something against it or insulted it. I'll just end my discussion here since we're both going to repeat the same shit over and over again and the topic got spammed enough already.
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Post by Mr.DollarMan » April 11, 2016, 6:37 pm
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I have religious beliefs but I won't let myself get offended just because a random guy that i don't know on the internet said something against it or insulted it. I'll just end my discussion here since we're both going to repeat the same shit over and over again and the topic got spammed enough already.
Good for you if you won't let yourself get offended, but I would for this reason, specially when there is a rule about it.
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Post by CriticaL » April 11, 2016, 7:09 pm
I do agree with you. This is an 18+ game, but you guys understand the meaning of '18+' in a wrong way. 18+ means you should be mature enough and not say words that offend the others, not just say whatever you want and then 'It's my personal opinion', and then expect the people to see that and shut up. Nope, you gotta rethink about it. There were many topics about 'racism'. HunTeR1 and Glen created announcements about it and yet, people state that.

And yes, punishment should not vary, but should be the same and wisely though.
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