Adding a Final Rule about this.

[Mastro]

You know, I am not going to disagree, you are right, no one should start being like that, making fun/jokes about religion stuff that might offend some people. Even though personally I feel that you make it a big deal. Someone may tell you 'Fuck all Muslims, Muslims are Terrorists', something which isn't true right? So why would you care about it? How is a comment coming by a x y person gonna change your beliefs? And in fact, such comments are not made to insult you, offend you, directly at least. Ignoring is the best option. Slide note, I am atheist, in case you thought I am against Muslims or something.

I find it really weird, how religious people, and mostly Muslims get easily offended from such comments. If I say "All Muslims are terrorists" you will get highly offended right? But why? You have your beliefs, I have mine. Still you would rather prefer to call someone nig ga, which is a racist word, offending him directly, than saying a bad word about his religion. Why?

However, if this suggestion was made from a person who respects others, and is not hostile with anyone, I would probably not say all these things, and I would probably kinda try to understand you and your thoughts. But such suggestion coming from a guy who lost his tag many times due to inappropriate behaviour, got involved in countless fights, asking for respect while him, himself is insulting others 24/7, provoking aswell, is something really funny. How many times did I see you insulting/provoking people, comments such as "Fuck your mum." and stuff like that. Where's the respect in this instance? Still asking for it. I can't get you.

[Faraon78910]

This is GTA San Andreas, have you ever played singleplayer?

[MemoriesOfWar]

Ignoring is the best thing to do, While trying to argue there is more hate increasing and creates divisions, Some players will side this one some others will side the other one, But simply by ignoring you avoid long arguments which won't result in the insults being removed but to more being added.

[Jace_kahn]

The most important thing is that it offends you? You're saying it's okay to make jokes about smaller groups because they're a minority, that's your entire justification for my response about that, but you keep saying I'm repeating the same things when I bring up more stuff, it's really funny actually. Also, how is making fun of religion racism? It isn't in the slightest. It's a religion, not a race.

" You are living in USA and maybe that's why you can say that or maybe because of your society and the way you were raised up. "

That's exactly why I say it, exactly why a lot of Americans, Europeans, etc are against something like this, they have a backbone, they don't let peoples comments about their religion get to them, hit them like some knife stabbed in the back. Lsrcr has plenty of things in it that are graphic and offensive, in the online version of it. Not the singleplayer, in the mutliplayer game there are tons of offensive things coded, that require a mature level to play at. There's a limit sure, but that limit is personal attacks, and the sort like that. You're talking about how racism is against the rules but yet everyone of every race uses the word "Nigga" and throws it around regardless of the negative connatation behind it. Plenty of black people get offended by that, I hope you do understand that correct? Doesn't mean we'll stop allowing people to say that and its been something people have been saying on the server since before you played ls-rcr.

The fact of the matter is LS-RCR isn't in a specific nation, it isn't in a specific part of the world, and not all of its players are 100% of the same religion, hell I bet you this server is so religiously divided on what people actually believe in that the majority religion most likely isn't a majority by a lot. Ls-rcr is racially divided as well, and why should we put in rules that cater specifically to one group and put their opinions and beliefs above others? As long as someone isn't personally attacking you with their comments, or personally trying to offend you, alone, it shouldn't be punished. A joke about a religion isn't a personal attack directed to you about religion, and it isn't racism either so I don't get why exactly you're trying to push it in with racism.

Are you dumb enough to understand what I wrote? Do I have to repeat like you? No, I didn't say that I compared your subject with mine. It's not totally racism but somehow it is because it involves the beliefs.

I was right then, you are saying it because you live in USA and you are talking according to what your society taught you to. So you can never understand what it feels or what I want to explain. Maturity is not to ignore the insults or your religion, that's the way how you guys think maturity is. Ignoring major things for you guys is maturity and I know it very clearly. Yes, I do understand to how that word offends some people and that's why you can't type the word "Racial minority group" in the mainchat.

It won't cater only one specific group, it will cater to all the religions in the world which exists. A joke on religion is a personal attack for me and for some other players, we do take it as a personal. Because are a part of it and that indirectly attacks us.

"Are you dumb enough to understand what I wrote? Do I have to repeat like you?" you've been repeating this entire thread, and I've been kind and nice in my replies, bringing up arguments and points and of course, I bring up something new and it's repeating to you, and honestly, something here like this, it's funny to me, the man who made a whole thread asking to censor words that others finds offensive steps down to using ad hominem as an argument tool against me, for what, mentioning the fact you brought up race in a rules about religious discussion? You were the first to mention race, not me.

Yes, part of what I reflect is what my society taught me, but not quite that, my community, there are plenty of ignorant people in the US who'd love to shut everyones mouths up who disagrees with them ,or says something offensive to them but that's a slope downhill to losing any freedom of yourself because other people want to control how you think so they can feel great, better, people have the right to say things, and people definitely have the right to joke. This isn't a workplace, it's a game, I shouldn't have to watch my every word in jokes and such because someone around me might get offended. Plenty of people on Ls-rcr have said things that have offended me, I taken em, brushed them off my shoulder and moved on with my life. Most people here do that. You say I don't understand because I'm not a part of your society, and sure, I don't on that aspect, but I do believe that just because it's a certain way in your community doesn't mean that it should be forced on the whole world.

Ls-rcr isn't in east Asia, isn't in Pakistan, isn't in Israel, isn't in Vatican city or Europe. Ls-rcr is it's own place and server, and it's a blended community of many different races, religious groups, and etc. Plenty of religious people have given this thread a -1 because they understand what putting tape on peoples mouths can do, and they understand turning another cheek, and just letting things move on instead of making a big deal about it. As much as you want to see it that way, someone isn't directly making a personal attack on you when they make an offensive joke. Just because it's about your religious it isn't a direct comment meant to be directed at you and to offend you. Which, now by the way, I'm repeating myself because you don't seem to understand that, and to start off on an argument about offenses and call me stupid in the first sentence is very ironic. To quite a lot of people, and especially outside of your culture, religion is no where near as touchy as a subject anymore to make fun of and joke about. Especially on an online community.

Though, soon enough I'll probably stop replying because I've gotten my point across, and have reinforced my arguments, and counterpoints while you stoop down to using ad hominem.

[Astrl]

-1

Religion should just not be spoken about full stop as it's always caused problems and people getting but hurt over religion.

I'd say around 70-80% of people on the server and about 50% of those people get butthurt.

There's no need to even speak of it, hence why it's banned.

Religion should never be spoken about in the main chat and that is the rule and has been forever.
Literally if this happens, report them and be done with it, don't go into a topic on the forums about "HE OFFENDED ME OMG ADMINS BAN HIM NOW" whatever they do to punish the user is what they believe is the right thing to do at the time (they do not judge someone on a religion etc they have to be neutral in a situation.) and note, it is not your choice, you have no say in Administrator business etc what goes down there is strictly nothing to do with us. If an Administrator has a query, I can assure you that they will speak to another staff member about it and ask for an opinion etc.

Do not try to push for an Administrator to do something as they're the staff member, not you.

One last thing, Don't cry about it when someone "insults your religion" or says something about another God or something, it's not the end of the world. Yes have your beliefs, believe that onions can tarmac roads for all I care, literally it shouldn't be brought up in the main chat if someone would like to tell a joke to someone and they find it funny, there's /pm or /pmg.

Also if someone is aggravating you by speaking about religion etc, /ignore [ID]

I'm sure this post is going to cause controversy but literally, this has been the rule from the get go.

[killdahobo99]

What kind of mentality is that? It's called tit for tat because being nice doesn't work always. I already told you why would I be the one starting it, however I will tell you again. I would be the one to start it because you and some other players think that's it's okay to talk shit about religions and their Gods well then to make them realize what does a person feel when they get offended, I must start talking about anything I want, because the community is okay with it and there's no punishment for it and it's not against the rules. Then the players must not cry about it because the community doesn't take action against it because some of the admins think that's it's okay to talk like this. You missed the amazing part, a few admins are not following it. You always pick the point to which you can answer back and you ignore the other things.

Yes, I have a group named Terrorists and it's not offending them in any major way. Religion is something way more important than this. Let's take it your way. Why you didn't point out army? There can be many victims whose families were killed during any army operation or maybe their women were raped by army of any country, it can be right? I'm sure you are well aware of these things related to army right?
They are joining it because it's group opposite to Army's name and yes I will tell you that it's a part of game. But offending someone by insulting their religion or God is not what a game is for.
I don't know whether you are an atheist or not but you act like one, by going totally against this suggestion, however I didn't offend you or to what you believe in. You don't support this because you are no offended by this.

I have religious beliefs but I won't let myself get offended just because a random guy that i don't know on the internet said something against it or insulted it. I'll just end my discussion here since we're both going to repeat the same shit over and over again and the topic got spammed enough already.

Who's Shaco

[Mr.DollarMan]

Haha, typical western thinking which makes be believe that you are not going to agree me with me because it's against your teachings.
I suppose then I should not waste my time explaining you guys to what I mean, when you can't understand it. Aww

[Jace_kahn]

Haha, typical western thinking which makes be believe that you are not going to agree me with me because it's against your teachings.
I suppose then I should not waste my time explaining you guys to what I mean, when you can't understand it. Aww

It's funny, because the exact same words can be said.

"Haha, typical eastern thinking which makes me believe that you are not going to agree with me because it's against your teachings.
I suppose then I should not waste my time explaining you guys to what I mean, when you can't understand it. Aww"

Literally, the same could be applied back to the logic you try and use.

[Criminal]

+1, Even Freestyle he is a Admin and doing what he should not and even any member of a community or a player, No one can
Listen about his/her religion if some one in front of me do the samething he will be killed ! And yes punish every one equally, If an Admin break a rule he should get the same punishment as a normal player gets and same with religious talk and if this not useful remove that reform !

[Nilikos]

Totally agreed.