Removal of Swan Off

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Should s/o be removed?

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Post by [Lsrcr]Jobin » June 16, 2016, 3:10 pm
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If 5 lsrcr players dont know how to duel that doesnt mean all players should not use swanoff and it should be completely removed. Its a game,, we are here to have fun. For players who having fun with swanoff let them do it, and for others who dont want, then dont use it.
When these people who don't want to use it go against an opponent who uses it, they'll most probably die. What if there are people who just can't get hang of the sawnoffs no matter how hard they try? Are they doomed in a way that they can't have fun at all?
There are only few people who dont know how to duel... just learn it or die lel. We cant remove swanoff for minority when majority want it.
There is no point for removing swanoff since its not a complete role play server.
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Post by Razer531 » June 16, 2016, 3:10 pm
Jaker wrote:
Jobin wrote:
If 5 lsrcr players dont know how to duel that doesnt mean all players should not use swanoff and it should be completely removed. Its a game,, we are here to have fun. For players who having fun with swanoff let them do it, and for others who dont want, then dont use it.
When these people who don't want to use it go against an opponent who uses it, they'll most probably die. What if there are people who just can't get hang of the sawnoffs no matter how hard they try? Are they doomed in a way that they can't have fun at all?
so you're basically saying:"Have mercy on unskilled people, jeez!" fyi



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then do smh else on this server/other server if u cant handle someone being "too skilled"

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Post by Jaker » June 16, 2016, 3:14 pm
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Why are you guys so against it? Can't we just try?
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There won't be any fun/challenges in the server
If sawnoffs got removed, you'd have to think of more creative ways of killing an opponent. Isn't that more fun than just running in circles? When I watch someone duel, it just looks hillarious how people run and shoot like maniacs.
Creative? Except for the fact that criminals will no longer be able to fight LEOs. All they'll be able to do is run. Their only real not high-distant weapon against LEOs is a combination of sawn-off and shock gun, again, assuming that they're to close to you to use sniper , m4 and such
P.S. Why do you hate on s/o so much anyways? xD
Roleplay? Already explained it above.. just because it has a word roleplay in it doesnt mean its an ACTUAL roleplay, and this server is the case of it. Only thing that supports word roleplay is an ability to switch beetwen more roles, aka cops,civils... Other than that..nope. Tho for some reason, pretty much everyone gets distracted by the word "Roleplay"..
I don't neccessarily hate it, I never said that. If you took a longer look on the suggestions section, you'd actually see that there are quite a lot of useful and creative criminal-side suggestions ongoing which would definitely enrichen the gameplay and give them something to fight back with. Btw. would you agree if the sawnoffs stayed, but the 2-shot would be forbidden?

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Post by Kaosx234 » June 16, 2016, 3:17 pm
Sawnoff ruins the gameplay, that is the fact. Why would someone use other weapons, such as M4, AK47, Combat Shotgun, basic shotgun, Deagle (and so on) if we have sawnoffs in a low range gunfights? Basically, sawnoff to Combat shotgun is as same as Minigun towards sawnoffs. Why do we want to remove sawnoffs? Because we want to have not only 2 weapons (sniper and sawnoff) but 6 and more weapons. We are not the minority, past time when there was a poll, it was fifty-fifty, therefore, don't spread lies.

Sawnoff fights are always the same, nothing different. Bottom of the line, let's not forget that 2shot is a SAMP bug, which should not be allowed in any server.

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Post by Razer531 » June 16, 2016, 3:18 pm
2 shot forbbiden? its basically the same thing like removing the whole s/o. Again, the mechanic people use when they 1v1 arresters and are to close to shoot them with m4 and s/o is this:
You run from them while constantly poking them with 2 shot s/o. When you smell /taze danger, you jump and in mid-air you quickly attempt to shock just so you dont get arrested. And at some point, with good timing, you'll also use shock + 4 shot.
EDIT: No other way to perform an on-foot fight.
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Post by Razer531 » June 16, 2016, 3:20 pm
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Sawnoff ruins the gameplay, that is the fact. Why would someone use other weapons, such as M4, AK47, Combat Shotgun, basic shotgun, Deagle (and so on) if we have sawnoffs in a low range gunfights? Basically, sawnoff to Combat shotgun is as same as Minigun towards sawnoffs. Why do we want to remove sawnoffs? Because we want to have not only 2 weapons (sniper and sawnoff) but 6 and more weapons. We are not the minority, past time when there was a poll, it was fifty-fifty, therefore, don't spread lies.

Sawnoff fights are always the same, nothing different. Bottom of the line, let's not forget that 2shot is a SAMP bug, which should not be allowed in any server.

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I'll emphasize once again that the only thing criminals could do is just run because of the reasons i mentioned

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Post by [Lsrcr]Jobin » June 16, 2016, 3:24 pm
how you guys saying swanoff ruin gameplay? Leos can easily take down a criminal even if he use swanoff.
While swats came in team and taze , cuff and drag a criminal, swanoff doesn't even matter. Same happen with cops as well. Army got more than enough weapons or features to take down a criminal.
So we cant say swanoff ruin gameplay.
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Post by Tolis. » June 16, 2016, 3:26 pm
I was going to give this a huge -1 but then I saw this
Kaosx234 wrote:
Sawnoff ruins the gameplay, that is the fact. Why would someone use other weapons, such as M4, AK47, Combat Shotgun, basic shotgun, Deagle (and so on) if we have sawnoffs in a low range gunfights? Basically, sawnoff to Combat shotgun is as same as Minigun towards sawnoffs. Why do we want to remove sawnoffs? Because we want to have not only 2 weapons (sniper and sawnoff) but 6 and more weapons. We are not the minority, past time when there was a poll, it was fifty-fifty, therefore, don't spread lies.

Sawnoff fights are always the same, nothing different. Bottom of the line, let's not forget that 2shot is a SAMP bug, which should not be allowed in any server.

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Tl;dr: it'd be interesting to see other weapons being used instead of the sawnoff. Plus 2shot like kaosx mentioned is a samp bug. Why is it allowed when cbug is forbidden? 2shotting is even more overpowered than c-bugging with the deagle

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Post by Razer531 » June 16, 2016, 3:26 pm
Jobin wrote:
how you guys saying swanoff ruin gameplay? Leos can easily take down a criminal even if he use swanoff.
While swats came in team and taze , cuff and drag a criminal, swanoff doesn't even matter. Same happen with cops as well. Army got more than enough weapons or features to take down a criminal.
So we cant say swanoff ruin gameplay.
Indeed. Its what i am trying to tell them all the time, no on foot fights for criminals because they'll always get arrested.
That just means that the only thing thats going to ruin gameplay is actually a removal of s/o.

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Post by Razer531 » June 16, 2016, 3:28 pm
Tolis. wrote:
I was going to give this a huge -1 but then I saw this
Kaosx234 wrote:
Sawnoff ruins the gameplay, that is the fact. Why would someone use other weapons, such as M4, AK47, Combat Shotgun, basic shotgun, Deagle (and so on) if we have sawnoffs in a low range gunfights? Basically, sawnoff to Combat shotgun is as same as Minigun towards sawnoffs. Why do we want to remove sawnoffs? Because we want to have not only 2 weapons (sniper and sawnoff) but 6 and more weapons. We are not the minority, past time when there was a poll, it was fifty-fifty, therefore, don't spread lies.

Sawnoff fights are always the same, nothing different. Bottom of the line, let's not forget that 2shot is a SAMP bug, which should not be allowed in any server.

+1
Tl;dr: it'd be interesting to see other weapons being used instead of the sawnoff. Plus 2shot like kaosx mentioned is a samp bug. Why is it allowed when cbug is forbidden? 2shotting is even more overpowered than c-bugging with the deagle

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So I might emphasize YET again that criminals couldnt perform on-foot chase.
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