Removal of Swan Off

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Should s/o be removed?

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Post by Tolis. » June 16, 2016, 3:30 pm
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I was going to give this a huge -1 but then I saw this
Kaosx234 wrote:
Sawnoff ruins the gameplay, that is the fact. Why would someone use other weapons, such as M4, AK47, Combat Shotgun, basic shotgun, Deagle (and so on) if we have sawnoffs in a low range gunfights? Basically, sawnoff to Combat shotgun is as same as Minigun towards sawnoffs. Why do we want to remove sawnoffs? Because we want to have not only 2 weapons (sniper and sawnoff) but 6 and more weapons. We are not the minority, past time when there was a poll, it was fifty-fifty, therefore, don't spread lies.

Sawnoff fights are always the same, nothing different. Bottom of the line, let's not forget that 2shot is a SAMP bug, which should not be allowed in any server.

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Tl;dr: it'd be interesting to see other weapons being used instead of the sawnoff. Plus 2shot like kaosx mentioned is a samp bug. Why is it allowed when cbug is forbidden? 2shotting is even more overpowered than c-bugging with the deagle

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So I might emphasize YET again that criminals couldnt perform on-foot chase.
Read.
They can use uzi or tec9. Plus, they can buy a shock gun from 24/7.
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Post by Razer531 » June 16, 2016, 3:34 pm
Tolis, those are too weak weapons and the only thing shock will serve is running away, but not killing. i'll copy paste the only way you can use if you want to be an arrester in 1v1 on-foot.
You run from them while constantly poking them with 2 shot s/o. When you smell /taze danger, you jump and in mid-air you quickly attempt to shock just so you dont get arrested. And at some point, with good timing, you'll also use shock + 4 shot.

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Post by Jaker » June 16, 2016, 3:37 pm
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Tolis, those are too weak weapons and the only thing shock will serve is running away, but not killing. i'll copy paste the only way you can use if you want to be an arrester in 1v1 on-foot.
You run from them while constantly poking them with 2 shot s/o. When you smell /taze danger, you jump and in mid-air you quickly attempt to shock just so you dont get arrested. And at some point, with good timing, you'll also use shock + 4 shot.
Would you want Molotovs or Flamethrowers added? They could be used only by the criminals.

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Post by Razer531 » June 16, 2016, 3:38 pm
Jaker wrote:
Razer531 wrote:
Tolis, those are too weak weapons and the only thing shock will serve is running away, but not killing. i'll copy paste the only way you can use if you want to be an arrester in 1v1 on-foot.
You run from them while constantly poking them with 2 shot s/o. When you smell /taze danger, you jump and in mid-air you quickly attempt to shock just so you dont get arrested. And at some point, with good timing, you'll also use shock + 4 shot.
Would you want Molotovs or Flamethrowers added? They could be used only by the criminals.
Stop over-emphasizing stuff and offer normal arguments
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Post by Kaosx234 » June 16, 2016, 3:39 pm
Since when are criminals supposed to chase cops? You mentioned on-foot chase by criminal side, so I am asking a question, since when?

Cops are supposed to chase criminals down. Criminals are supposed to run away from the cops unless they outnumber cops.
how you guys saying swanoff ruin gameplay?
Can you read my post, I just explained how does it ruin the gameplay and it is the fact.
Leos can easily take down a criminal even if he use swanoff.
With sawnoff yes, everything in LS-RCR is running around sawnoffs. That is very bad.
While swats came in team and taze , cuff and drag a criminal, swanoff doesn't even matter.
Who says that criminals cannot team with mechanics that also have weapons? I don't see any cop group that can take down 4 criminals that 3 of them are mechanics unless those criminals are unskilled.
Army got more than enough weapons or features to take down a criminal.
Army has rules as well, at least you should know that.

As for Car's arguments, Car is in his world that criminals are supposed to chase cops. When you change your point of view, please quote me.
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Post by Razer531 » June 16, 2016, 3:46 pm
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Since when are criminals supposed to chase cops? You mentioned on-foot chase by criminal side, so I am asking a question, since when?

Cops are supposed to chase criminals down. Criminals are supposed to run away from the cops unless they outnumber cops.
how you guys saying swanoff ruin gameplay?
Can you read my post, I just explained how does it ruin the gameplay and it is the fact.
Leos can easily take down a criminal even if he use swanoff.
With sawnoff yes, everything in LS-RCR is running around sawnoffs. That is very bad.
While swats came in team and taze , cuff and drag a criminal, swanoff doesn't even matter.
Who says that criminals cannot team with mechanics that also have weapons? I don't see any cop group that can take down 4 criminals that 3 of them are mechanics unless those criminals are unskilled.
Army got more than enough weapons or features to take down a criminal.
Army has rules as well, at least you should know that.

As for Car's arguments, Car is in his world that criminals are supposed to chase cops. When you change your point of view, please quote me.
I am saying that criminals should have 1v1 on-foot chances against cops, as at some point they are going to get taken down. This is not real life. In Ls-rcr you can spam /loc on every fucking player wherever he is, you can always check the map, there are no hideouts. I guess that now it makes more sense that criminals run away irl with some actual chances of escaping, but in Lsrcr....well... there are some, but they will vanish if this suggestion get accepted because they wont be able to fight.,
its not always easy to find a criminal teammate, but besides i dont feel like being obliged to team..
EDIT: You are in the world where you think Lsrcr=real life.. nc

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Post by Kaosx234 » June 16, 2016, 3:56 pm
LS-RCR is Cops and Robbers server. Cops are chasing criminals whatsoever, roleplaying or not, that is what this server mode is about and any new player that is coming expects this to be like that. If criminals are supposed to win 1v1 then this is not a Cops n Robbers server but a TDM (cops vs criminals, CSGO-style SAMP). This is not a roleplay aspect but the aspect of the game mode itself.

Criminals should be able to kill cops only if they outnumber police, I don't give a damn about being realistic or not, this server is meant to be like that.
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Post by Jaker » June 16, 2016, 4:00 pm
Kaosx234 wrote:
LS-RCR is Cops and Robbers server. Cops are chasing criminals whatsoever, roleplaying or not, that is what this server mode is about and any new player that is coming expects this to be like that. If criminals are supposed to win 1v1 then this is not a Cops n Robbers server but a TDM (cops vs criminals, CSGO-style SAMP). This is not a roleplay aspect but the aspect of the game mode itself.

Criminals should be able to kill cops only if they outnumber police, I don't give a damn about being realistic or not, this server is meant to be like that.
I think Car's point was that every side should have equal chances of winning a fight.

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Post by Razer531 » June 16, 2016, 4:00 pm
Jaker wrote:
Kaosx234 wrote:
LS-RCR is Cops and Robbers server. Cops are chasing criminals whatsoever, roleplaying or not, that is what this server mode is about and any new player that is coming expects this to be like that. If criminals are supposed to win 1v1 then this is not a Cops n Robbers server but a TDM (cops vs criminals, CSGO-style SAMP). This is not a roleplay aspect but the aspect of the game mode itself.

Criminals should be able to kill cops only if they outnumber police, I don't give a damn about being realistic or not, this server is meant to be like that.
I think Car's point was that every side should have equal chances of winning a fight.
or cops having a bit higher cuz cops=infinte /taze pu55y, but at least 30-40% criminal chances
so yeah

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Post by Kaosx234 » June 16, 2016, 4:04 pm
Razer531 wrote:
Jaker wrote:
Kaosx234 wrote:
LS-RCR is Cops and Robbers server. Cops are chasing criminals whatsoever, roleplaying or not, that is what this server mode is about and any new player that is coming expects this to be like that. If criminals are supposed to win 1v1 then this is not a Cops n Robbers server but a TDM (cops vs criminals, CSGO-style SAMP). This is not a roleplay aspect but the aspect of the game mode itself.

Criminals should be able to kill cops only if they outnumber police, I don't give a damn about being realistic or not, this server is meant to be like that.
I think Car's point was that every side should have equal chances of winning a fight.
or cops having a bit higher cuz cops=infinte /taze pu55y, but at least 30-40% criminal chances
so yeah
That is a TDM server, everyone on each side has equal chance of winning fights. You are in a wrong server mate.
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