Removal of Swan Off

[Jaker]

Geri, can you edit the OP to add a poll? I thought it might be good to put a poll in this topic.

[Kaosx234]

Guys its just swanoff not minigun.. are you such nubs? you cant take down a person using swanoff? Cmon.

Lock this suggetion already

Gifu lost so quick so I have time to respond

Are you this ignorant in real life as well that you are ignoring every single of my post? I really hope that you are not.

Read this, I never said that it is a minigun.

And I personally, can take you down with sawnoffs.

[Razer531]

Guys its just swanoff not minigun.. are you such nubs? you cant take down a person using swanoff? Cmon.

Lock this suggetion already

Gifu lost so quick so I have time to respond

Are you this ignorant in real life as well that you are ignoring every single of my post? I really hope that you are not.

Read this, I never said that it is a minigun.

And I personally, can take you down with sawnoffs.

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[Razer531]

This server is not a TDM server but it also isn't a CnR server, but the game mode says "Cops And Robbers" ironically. Are you trying to change this server's game mode? You should try to open your own suggestion if you are willing to do that. Galaxygeri, me and other community members wants to make this server what it was intended to be, a Cops n Robbers server. Sadly, ignorant and traditional people want to keep this server as a hybrid of TDM and CnR server.

Removing sawnoff would not ruin its gameplay, having sawnoffs would ruin its gameplay as I already mentioned. Removing one weapon from the game will give 4 or more weapons potentials to be used in every single chase.

Let me quote myself, since I see you failing to read my posts and trying to argue it.

Sawnoff ruins the gameplay, that is the fact. Why would someone use other weapons, such as M4, AK47, Combat Shotgun, basic shotgun, Deagle (and so on) if we have sawnoffs in a low range gunfights? Basically, sawnoff to Combat shotgun is as same as Minigun towards sawnoffs. Why do we want to remove sawnoffs? Because we want to have not only 2 weapons (sniper and sawnoff) but 6 and more weapons. We are not the minority, past time when there was a poll, it was fifty-fifty, therefore, don't spread lies.

TO ABSOLUTELY NOONE IT IS FUN TO JUST RUN WITH HELIS AND NRG AND KEEP RUNNING AWAY, NOONE.

What does sawnoff have to do with NRGs and helicopters? I see many of people running away with NRGs even with having sawnoffs in the server. Lol.

WHAT IS FUN TO EVERYONE, ARE THE FIGHTS BEETWEN LEOS AND CRIMINALS.

That is what you will get in a TDM server. Chases are actually very fun if both of them are teaming. That is why, I never use NRG or any bike and yet I am having fun chasing suspects down with bikes, sadly you do not have those skills so you think it is not fun, but hey, we are not talking about skills here.

p.s. its interesting how you arent against drug using bmx-ers, but are against s/o.

This has nothing to do with drug using mountain bikers, so why are you trying to change the topic?

Here's the bottom line you just need to deal with, egox234:

This is a funny part of your discussions, in each of them, you are trying to insult me but actually, you are just making my day. There are several reasons why people are going off the topic and insulting the other side of the discussion, such as failing to argue back.

Someone needs to teach you how to discuss properly because I see that you like throwing insults as I change my socks regularly.

#Just a note, since when sawnoff duels are fun that are always the same and nothing interesting? It is very fun indeed to see a such fight between cops and criminals, bravo Car barvo.

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I don't see why you dont think this isnt a cops and robbers server, there are cops, there are robbers(criminals), and they fight. lol.

Moving on.

U quoted yourself so I'll answer to that. You use m4 for popping tires, shooting vehicles, helis etc. And its not useless against actual players directly, on foot, even when there are sawnoffs. Deagles are oftenly used as well even tho sawnoff exists because there are exp. players who are good with deagles, lel. Combat shotgun is never going to be put to use no matter what regardless of s/o existance because it slows you down, you cant c-bug and they'll just taze and ar. ak47 same thing as m4... So i dont see much of a problem with weapons currently.

Next.

So the helis and nrg thing. It has something to do with s/o indirectly but you can't see it because you're just looking at the individual weapon for itself, and not on the consequences of its non-existence. With no sawnoff, if you're solo criminal(which is very often the case), there's no point in fighting. And then what, you'll just run around the san andreas with nrg and heli, rob some shops because its challenging...?? And.... fun?? Like, you rob 10 shops in lv, someone decides to go on you. You run to airport, both get helis and fly endlessly till someone does something or what.. I mean, yes i know i am making a bad "nutshell", but I hope you get my point. you just run without fights.
If you find these stuff fun..well.. then you're more than likely one of those noobs that just registered that are like: "so i can rob sam bitchaze, aight, well, if i flew to lv thear no copz and imma be rich imma rob omg my laif great i just rob da whole day oh fk im an alca, dafak. oh wait, no S/o, cops unlimited teaze, ? Nc server gj admens"

Next.

you'll find criminal teammates in 1 out of 5 times because most of them just solo and most of them -3 scored pros.. and i emphasized few rows above why just running away isn't fun to anyone.

Next.

So the bmx-es..
I said it because you whine about s/o being boring, no other weapons to use oh gawdd.. well why dont you decide to do something about your favorito, get the drugs , get the bike, be invincible. why dont you suggest to remove bmx?

Next.

The insults part...



"please insert some iq into your brain."

Next.
You say s/o are boring because its always the same blah blah blah (facepalm)...
Football matches are then all boring, all the time just passes, dribbles, fouls, then sometimes a goal drops in..... S/O are always fun beacuse they are intense and they are main fighting weapon. Without it, no=fights=just running=no fun

Spoiler: show

this is suggestion is getting the biggest denial ever because admins will understand my points unlike yours where you find op cops against powerless criminals fun.

[Razer531]

Lol remove them, you will be able to counter aimbot easier xD

It would be strange, yes, but people should find their own creative ways to kill a person as Jaker said. But there's another thing that might cause problems. Most of the people will fight with Deagle 1vs1, and there will be huge increase of C-bug and it might become a serious problem if C-bug doesn't get removed along with "swan offs"

Can't wait to see just ONE of those creative ideas when there are no s/o.

[iFanta]

Why are you guys so against it? Can't we just try?

There won't be any fun/challenges in the server

If sawnoffs got removed, you'd have to think of more creative ways of killing an opponent. Isn't that more fun than just running in circles? When I watch someone duel, it just looks hillarious how people run and shoot like maniacs.

I don't agree on removing sawnoff maybe 2 shoots bug gets removed

[[Lsrcr]Jobin]

Why are you guys so against it? Can't we just try?

There won't be any fun/challenges in the server

If sawnoffs got removed, you'd have to think of more creative ways of killing an opponent. Isn't that more fun than just running in circles? When I watch someone duel, it just looks hillarious how people run and shoot like maniacs.

I don't agree on removing sawnoff maybe 2 shoots bug gets removed

The bug is Gta Sa bug, it cannot be removed.

[Carl_J]

ok carl_j got a goodest idea

how about we make it that instead of you getting 2 sawnoffs when you buy it / get it from a weapon checkpoint, we instead only get 1 sawnoff (it's like that in singleplayer until you master the shotgun/sawnoff skill or whatever, then it gives you 2)

[iFanta]

Why are you guys so against it? Can't we just try?

There won't be any fun/challenges in the server

If sawnoffs got removed, you'd have to think of more creative ways of killing an opponent. Isn't that more fun than just running in circles? When I watch someone duel, it just looks hillarious how people run and shoot like maniacs.

I don't agree on removing sawnoff maybe 2 shoots bug gets removed

The bug is Gta Sa bug, it cannot be removed.[/quote]
Then it should be forbidden just like c-bug and that's it but not remove s/o lol

[Jaker]

It can be forbidden though.