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Post by Vendetta » June 25, 2017, 6:55 pm
It has been proven since ever that talking about Religion will always make debates and fights and it never ends well.
Can't we just accept everyone's opinion and not fight about it?
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Post by Diplomatic. » June 25, 2017, 7:04 pm
[Lsrcr]Oggy wrote:
Diplomatic. wrote:
Have you ever read the Quran?
Read it and translate a sentence of it and you'll know if there is a God or not.
Who made this world?
Who made the sun?
Who made the stars in the darkness?
Who made you and the humans?
Who made the animals?
Who made the Water?
Who made the Oxygen that you cannot breathe without it? (No life without it)
Who made every single organism in your body to bring your son(s)/daughter(s)?
Another billion things which have a proof that there is a God to believe by!
Try to go in the deep of thinking about everything's around you..!
The Big Bang made the world.

A nebula in the Milky Way made the sun.

Stars are formed in nebulas and they shine in the darkness because they emit the energy produced in their core due to nuclear fusion as electronamgnetic radiation.

I was made because my dad and mom got horny one night LOL.

Evolution created and moulded thd animals.

The Oxygen we breathe was made in stars due to nuclear fusion and got spread everywhere because of supernovae.

Whatever you list, I can give you a scientific explaination for it.
And who made your dad and mom?
And who made your grandpa & grandma?
And who made who brought them, Etc..!?
Go in the deep of thinking and try to read the Quran once and translate it.
Also please, please read this video till the end and i'm pretty sure you'll understand anything you are willing to know and you'll believe :) < https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-dPkasR7as >
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Post by Robin » June 25, 2017, 7:06 pm
Diplomatic. wrote:
[Lsrcr]Oggy wrote:
Diplomatic. wrote:
Have you ever read the Quran?
Read it and translate a sentence of it and you'll know if there is a God or not.
Who made this world?
Who made the sun?
Who made the stars in the darkness?
Who made you and the humans?
Who made the animals?
Who made the Water?
Who made the Oxygen that you cannot breathe without it? (No life without it)
Who made every single organism in your body to bring your son(s)/daughter(s)?
Another billion things which have a proof that there is a God to believe by!
Try to go in the deep of thinking about everything's around you..!
The Big Bang made the world.

A nebula in the Milky Way made the sun.

Stars are formed in nebulas and they shine in the darkness because they emit the energy produced in their core due to nuclear fusion as electronamgnetic radiation.

I was made because my dad and mom got horny one night LOL.

Evolution created and moulded thd animals.

The Oxygen we breathe was made in stars due to nuclear fusion and got spread everywhere because of supernovae.

Whatever you list, I can give you a scientific explaination for it.
And who made your dad and mom?
And who made your grandpa & grandma?
And who made who brought them, Etc..!?
Go in the deep of thinking and try to read the Quran once and translate it.
Also please, please read this video till the end and i'm pretty sure you'll understand anything you are willing to know and you'll believe :) < https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-dPkasR7as >
< https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5ZlSSOhbzQ >
< https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEvmGuwqSI4 >
Quran is a book, if you believe what's written in a book without even looking for evidence I suggest you open op a book about the evolution theory.
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Post by [Lsrcr]Oggy » June 25, 2017, 7:12 pm
Diplomatic. wrote:
[Lsrcr]Oggy wrote:
Diplomatic. wrote:
Have you ever read the Quran?
Read it and translate a sentence of it and you'll know if there is a God or not.
Who made this world?
Who made the sun?
Who made the stars in the darkness?
Who made you and the humans?
Who made the animals?
Who made the Water?
Who made the Oxygen that you cannot breathe without it? (No life without it)
Who made every single organism in your body to bring your son(s)/daughter(s)?
Another billion things which have a proof that there is a God to believe by!
Try to go in the deep of thinking about everything's around you..!
The Big Bang made the world.

A nebula in the Milky Way made the sun.

Stars are formed in nebulas and they shine in the darkness because they emit the energy produced in their core due to nuclear fusion as electronamgnetic radiation.

I was made because my dad and mom got horny one night LOL.

Evolution created and moulded thd animals.

The Oxygen we breathe was made in stars due to nuclear fusion and got spread everywhere because of supernovae.

Whatever you list, I can give you a scientific explaination for it.
And who made your dad and mom?
And who made your grandpa & grandma?
And who made who brought them, Etc..!?
Go in the deep of thinking and try to read the Quran once and translate it.
Also please, please read this video till the end and i'm pretty sure you'll understand anything you are willing to know and you'll believe :) < https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-dPkasR7as >
< https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5ZlSSOhbzQ >
< https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEvmGuwqSI4 >
It's called evolution. We evolved a lot because of various factors like genetic drift, mutation, errors in biological replication processes, etc to this form called homo sapiens. Evolution explains it very clearly. In the beginning we were just single-celled organisms in ocean which later went to the land and started living there. Where did the micro-organisms come from, you may ask. The dirst organisms were formed from nothing but simple elements present on the earth's atmosphere. You can read more about it on WikiPedia. And where did the elements come from? Stars, by nuclear fusion and supernovae.
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Post by Geri » June 25, 2017, 7:25 pm
I don't believe that the big bang actually happened.
Look at this image:
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It is an atom. The atom has a proton (or more) and a least one electron. But, look at the image, doesn't that look familiar to something else?
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Exactly, our solar system doesn't change that much from an atom. Honestly. all it changes is the size.
So, how could an explosion create such a well shaped rock exactly in that position to rotate around the Sun in such a perfect condition. Even if it is, what about the atmosphere and others. This question has not been answered yet and i am sure it will NEVER be. Our curiosity has gone that far, but i am sure it wont be able to find out, so, as long as we have no answer, some people created the answer, by saying that ''God'' did it, or any name we want to put. Maybe they are right, maybe there is some kind of human out there which has done something for us, or maybe the earth was just there and it popped on just like that.
I personally have my own thinking. I cannot explain how the earth got created, but i can say that the whole solar system popped up and it took 500 seconds for the sunlight to hit earth atmosphere and create life.

But, this is not the only case, the milky way has other solar systems with the same form as an atom.


So, if the earth is an electron of the solar system it means that the electrons from the atoms also have smaller things in them. They are really tiny for sure, but it exist.
So, it might be the big bang theory, it also might be a person that some call ''God'' or it might have just popped out like from nowhere and there is NO answer into it.
But, human mind has realized that if we don't find the way, we make the way.
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Post by Kaosx234 » June 25, 2017, 7:34 pm
[Lsrcr]Oggy wrote:
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You're literally proving Nik's point. If nothing can not make something, then who created God? If there was nothing to make God, he doesn't exist just like your argument states (You cannot make something with nothing). And if he does in fact exist, what made him?
God has always been here and so were we. I am trying to say this, you cannot create anything with nothing (what is the beginning of space)?
Origin of space is The Big Bang and the reason for it to take place was called quantum fluctuations. If you don't knkw what that is, use WikiPedia. Before the Big Bang all matter and energy (both are the same thing) was concentrated in a single point. And after it, for every 1000001 matter particles that was created, only 1000000 anti-matter particle was created due to the same quantum fluctuations. This imbalance, over time created everything we know in the universe. The remaining matter and anti-matter anhilated up. God didn't make the galaxies, stars and planets. The Big Bang did. So there is no God.
I know here about the theory of the Big Bang more than probably anyone here, as I am going to be a scientist regarding Maths/Physics, so giving me lectures is just stupid. Your post is made of leads of things that are not even proven, and they will never be proven, because we, human, cannot prove but only give assumptions. You are trying to put your opinion as a fact but it is failing miserably.


Can I ask oyu, what was before a single point?
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Post by Kaosx234 » June 25, 2017, 7:37 pm
NotAnAdmin wrote:
Kaosx234 wrote:
NotAnAdmin wrote:
You're literally proving Nik's point. If nothing can not make something, then who created God? If there was nothing to make God, he doesn't exist just like your argument states (You cannot make something with nothing). And if he does in fact exist, what made him?
God has always been here and so were we. I am trying to say this, you cannot create anything with nothing (what is the beginning of space)?
Okay, if God has always been here and so were we (quoting you here), then that means we have existed simultaneously. Which means, he could not have created us.
Also, space is a proven fact, it exists. The reason we don't know its constrains or its origin is simply as Oggy stated, lack of technology. Thus, it's a conjecture, as to where space begins and ends.
Too big words for you, Notan. Sadly you don't know how to use it.

Nonetheless, we created us humans. We always were there and we always will be - even after the death. Enjoy living YOLO.

ps. ToBB was never proven and will never be.
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Post by [Lsrcr]Oggy » June 25, 2017, 7:42 pm
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I don't believe that the big bang actually happened.
Look at this image:
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It is an atom. The atom has a proton (or more) and a least one electron. But, look at the image, doesn't that look familiar to something else?
Image
Exactly, our solar system doesn't change that much from an atom. Honestly. all it changes is the size.
So, how could an explosion create such a well shaped rock exactly in that position to rotate around the Sun in such a perfect condition. Even if it is, what about the atmosphere and others. This question has not been answered yet and i am sure it will NEVER be. Our curiosity has gone that far, but i am sure it wont be able to find out, so, as long as we have no answer, some people created the answer, by saying that ''God'' did it, or any name we want to put. Maybe they are right, maybe there is some kind of human out there which has done something for us, or maybe the earth was just there and it popped on just like that.
I personally have my own thinking. I cannot explain how the earth got created, but i can say that the whole solar system popped up and it took 500 seconds for the sunlight to hit earth atmosphere and create life.

But, this is not the only case, the milky way has other solar systems with the same form as an atom.


So, if the earth is an electron of the solar system it means that the electrons from the atoms also have smaller things in them. They are really tiny for sure, but it exist.
So, it might be the big bang theory, it also might be a person that some call ''God'' or it might have just popped out like from nowhere and there is NO answer into it.
But, human mind has realized that if we don't find the way, we make the way.
This is Bohr's atomic model. It's what they use to teach kids. The latest atomic is called Heisenberg's atomic model or the standard model which is based on mathematical probabilities. You can read more about this on WikiPedia.

About the planets, there is NOTHING left to be proven about their orbits and formation. Oh and these are drawing by artists, they're not real. The orbits if most of the planets are not circular, they're more elliptical with a small eccentricity and inclinationband the planets are not perfect spheres so nothing in the solar system is perfect. You might be interested to know that Jupiter doesn't really orbit the sun. It has a high mass so the center of mass of sun and Jupiter lies above the sun's surface so as a result, the itself wobbles around that spot.

If you can't understand how the BIg Bang formed all these starts, galaxies and planets, I'd suggest you to watch some videos about it on YouTube.

One more thing to say, planets, stars, galaxies, etc obey General relativity rules but small particles can be explained using Quantum Mechanics. Both taken together doesn't give any sense and scientists and still trying to unify both. Stephen Hawkings succeedes in one such attempt by explaining how a black hole evaporates by Hawking Radiation which is bases ok both Quantum mechanics and General relativity.
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Post by Immortal » June 25, 2017, 7:44 pm
Why did you guys brought the science shit here. I asked simple question lol

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Post by [Lsrcr]Oggy » June 25, 2017, 7:45 pm
Kaosx234 wrote:
NotAnAdmin wrote:
Kaosx234 wrote:
God has always been here and so were we. I am trying to say this, you cannot create anything with nothing (what is the beginning of space)?
Okay, if God has always been here and so were we (quoting you here), then that means we have existed simultaneously. Which means, he could not have created us.
Also, space is a proven fact, it exists. The reason we don't know its constrains or its origin is simply as Oggy stated, lack of technology. Thus, it's a conjecture, as to where space begins and ends.
Too big words for you, Notan. Sadly you don't know how to use it.

Nonetheless, we created us humans. We always were there and we always will be - even after the death. Enjoy living YOLO.

ps. ToBB was never proven and will never be.
Of course it will be. We're trying to look deeper into space meaning backwards in time with mkre advanced telescopes. One day, with enough technological advancement, we will prove it.
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