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Post by Geri » June 25, 2017, 10:44 pm
Many books are written and there is no proof that such human "god" exist, however there isn't any proof that he doesn't.
I don't believe in any of the books, but i am sure that whoever wrote those for the first time is a really smart person and I do admire him as he/she changed the world. Both, for good and bad.
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Post by OsamaAbouelhassan » June 25, 2017, 11:07 pm
@kaosx234 @Nikola

I wish I can answer each single question you guys ask but I can't, however, I'll try to, but if you are interested in knowing more, then best thing to do is to start searching for answers in books/internet, one of the people I highly recommend is docor Zakir Naik, he answered many suspicions asked by people from all over the world.

God is the creator of everything around us including us, he has no creator, try to realize that we existed by the mighty of Allah, he is God and we are creatures, weak ones of course, he can do whatever he wants whenever he wants.


The thing I want you guys to know most importantly that this life is a temporary stage (death exists) and is basically a test to how will you use your mind, I'm not sure if the coming expression is correct cause I google translated it >> life is a temptation, which means this life keeps attracting you to love it when it's a temporary life, these attractions are for example women, when seeing for example porn sites, this counts as a sin in Islam, why is that? Because this is a temporary life and people find such attractions and are given the right to choose (mind), you might ask why would God make that a sin? Science discovered that watching such stuff and of course masturbating after that causes serious body damage with time, besides it has other mental issues with time, so Islam instructions basically offer you a better life, satisfy God and you win heaven after death if Allah wishes so, also why Hijab was forced for women, in other words, Islam is based on logic and each instruction is there for a reason.
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Post by Diplomatic. » June 25, 2017, 11:10 pm
OsamaAbouelhassan wrote:
@kaosx234 @Nikola

I wish I can answer each single question you guys ask but I can't, however, I'll try to, but if you are interested in knowing more, then best thing to do is to start searching for answers in books/internet, one of the people I highly recommend is docor Zakir Naik, he answered many suspicions asked by people from all over the world.

God is the creator of everything around us including us, he has no creator, try to realize that we existed by the mighty of Allah, he is God and we are creatures, weak ones of course, he can do whatever he wants whenever he wants.


The thing I want you guys to know most importantly that this life is a temporary stage (death exists) and is basically a test to how will you use your mind, I'm not sure if the coming expression is correct cause I google translated it >> life is a temptation, which means this life keeps attracting you to love it when it's a temporary life, these attractions are for example women, when seeing for example porn sites, this counts as a sin in Islam, why is that? Because this is a temporary life and people find such attractions and are given the right to choose (mind), you might ask why would God make that a sin? Science discovered that watching such stuff and of course masturbating after that causes serious body damage with time, besides it has other mental issues with time, so Islam instructions basically offer you a better life, satisfy God and you win heaven after death if Allah wishes so, also why Hijab was forced for women, in other words, Islam is based on logic and each instruction is there for a reason.
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Post by OsamaAbouelhassan » June 25, 2017, 11:17 pm
CXdur wrote:
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I didn't read all comments but I would like to discuss anyways.

Quran is a solid proof of existence of God, according to my personal knowledge (I can be mistaken, so reply back if needed) .. first of all, let's speak about Arabic language, Arabs were so eloquent in the language, then Quran is given to Prophet Muhammad whom was uneducated and suddenly he tells Quran to people depends on the situation, Quran is considered the most eloquent ever that Arabs can't make a similar book and will never be able to, so Prophet Muhammad said Quran's words to people which proves he isn't lying about being a real prophet and all this is under the supervision of Allah, as for Quran itself, Quran is the words of Allah sent to Prophet Muhammad to be delivered to the people, thus it's one of the characteristics of Allah, as for Quran itself, it's not only the most eloquent book ever, it includes stories of past messengers detailed and some of the future events, it includes facts, how to live a happy life, and many scientific phenomena science discovered recently like the Aurora phenomenon (I think this is it's name), so a normal person can't create a book like Quran or a religion like Islam all by himself (Quran is 1400 years old), there are more things to prove the existence of God, but I found that one of the ones that must be mentioned here.
How do you explain the scientific errors in the Qur'an? Considering the words were sent by Allah and he is all-knowing, shouldn't it all be correct?

I have found a couple of examples: The world is flat, sun sets and rises at a specific location (sets into muddy water), solid sky.

You don't have to answer if you don't like the question - I am just curious to see how a muslim explains this.

The are scientific errors in the bible too of course, as there probably is for most religions.
You sure this isn't a hand written book, if not, I never really saw this in Quran, perhaps cause you wrote it in English.

And yes, Quran is completely free of any mistakes, scientific and grammatical ones, but look, I'm still a learner of what's written in Quran, I'm not a guy who can answer each single question you say, specially if it's in Quran and Sunnah (sayings and doings of Prophet Muhammad), but I do know that many people had suspicions about presence of mistakes in Quran (even I sometimes think of that) but no, there is always an answer for each of your suspicions, Dr Zakir Naik, Sondre .. he might have some answers to your questions in previously captured videos.
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Post by Shiny » June 25, 2017, 11:57 pm
The Koran is not distorted and every single word on it is true do not hesitate to read it a bit guys if you want, God is the only one who controls the earth. In the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the difference of night and day and of the universe, which is taking place in the sea for the benefit of the people, and what Allah has revealed from the sky of water, the earth resurrected it after its death. this is from a quranic verse since i cannot explain the existence of god without Quran sorry for that as also proved by Muslim scholars.
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Post by Shady » June 26, 2017, 12:35 am
- literally my view on religion in general
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Post by GreaTSaN » June 26, 2017, 12:51 am
CXdur wrote:
How do you explain the scientific errors in the Qur'an? Considering the words were sent by Allah and he is all-knowing, shouldn't it all be correct?

I have found a couple of examples: The world is flat, sun sets and rises at a specific location (sets into muddy water), solid sky.

You don't have to answer if you don't like the question - I am just curious to see how a muslim explains this.

The are scientific errors in the bible too of course, as there probably is for most religions.
Please tell me the mistakes and scientific errors in the Qur'an. Indeed, the words were sent by God and he is all-knowing. God nowhere says in the Qur'an that Earth is flat. Qur'an doesn't says that sun sets and rises at a specific location but instead it says that the Sun and moon are moving round at their own axis. Further more Qur'an says that skies which you say aren't just gases but they could weight up-to 1 kilo ton or more and today science agrees with this. I'd be really happy if you could give me a verse which says any of the thing you wrote.

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Post by OsamaAbouelhassan » June 26, 2017, 1:23 am
Shaco wrote:
- literally my view on religion in general
I read a real small part but concluded your point of view towards religions real quick.

Look, finding a religion and following it is really important, because a life without beliefs is like not a life, refer to Islam and what it's based on and take a look, you're going to wonder probably why am I saying Islam? Because Islam happens to be perfect for anyone at any time to live a happy life and be in heaven some day, compare Islam to other religions and decide which of them should be followed. Just imagine wanting to join Heaven when you didn't believe that God actually existed, subject deserves some research, right?
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Post by StephenKelly » June 26, 2017, 1:34 am
OsamaAbouelhassan wrote:
Shaco wrote:
- literally my view on religion in general
I read a real small part but concluded your point of view towards religions real quick.

Look, finding a religion and following it is really important, because a life without beliefs is like not a life, refer to Islam and what it's based on and take a look, you're going to wonder probably why am I saying Islam? Because Islam happens to be perfect for anyone at any time to live a happy life and be in heaven some day, compare Islam to other religions and decide which of them should be followed. Just imagine wanting to join Heaven when you didn't believe that God actually existed, subject deserves some research, right?
I'd rather enjoy my life now and live it to the fullest since I believe there is no after life. Imagine spending your whole life worshiping a God so you can get into heaven, and then realising it doesn't exist.

You just restricted your life to some predetermined steps read from a book to get into a non existent paradise.

Doesn't seem worth all the prayer and effort for an after life that isn't guaranteed really
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Post by RollinZo » June 26, 2017, 1:53 am
StephenKelly wrote:
I'd rather enjoy my life now and live it to the fullest since I believe there is no after life. Imagine spending your whole life worshiping a God so you can get into heaven, and then realising it doesn't exist.

You just restricted your life to some predetermined steps read from a book to get into a non existent paradise.

Doesn't seem worth all the prayer and effort for an after life that isn't guaranteed really
In my opinion you can enjoy your life with praying...How much it will take 30 minutes in the whole day? or maybe 1 hour as max, then remains 23 hours so what? 23 hours not enough to enjoy your life? sometimes the prayer doesn't take so much time, every praye take from 3 or 2 minutes so as max we can set it as 15 minutes per day..

Lol, it's just 15 minutes or 1hour as max, so you can enjoy the rest..What you will lose if you pray every day for sometime it's not that much...Also remember that's paradise can be real and can be false. It's 1hour per day to get in paradise if it's real but if it's false you didn't lose that much it's just 1 hour per day and remember it can be real so you can win and enjoy yourslef there!
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