God's Existence

[StephenKelly]

I'd rather enjoy my life now and live it to the fullest since I believe there is no after life. Imagine spending your whole life worshiping a God so you can get into heaven, and then realising it doesn't exist.

You just restricted your life to some predetermined steps read from a book to get into a non existent paradise.

Doesn't seem worth all the prayer and effort for an after life that isn't guaranteed really

In my opinion you can enjoy your life with praying...How much it will take 30 minutes in the whole day? or maybe 1 hour as max, then remains 23 hours so what? 23 hours not enough to enjoy your life? sometime the prayer doesn't take so much time, every praye take from 3 or 2 minutes so as max we can set it as 15 minutes per day..

Lol, it's just 15 minutes or 1hour as max, so you can enjoy the rest..What you will lose if you pray every day for sometime it's not that much...Also remember that's paradise can be real and can be false. It's 1hour per day to get in paradise if it's real but if it's false you didn't lose that much it's just 1 hour per day and remember it can be real so you can win and enjoy yourslef there!

Religion restricts your experiences by making them sins

You can't eat certain foods, can't eat during specific times, can't date whoever you want whenever you want, can't masturbate and if your a woman can't wear whatever you want.

It's not just the time it takes to pray and go to church, its the boundaries you need to abide by which I dislike

[GreaTSaN]

I'd rather enjoy my life now and live it to the fullest since I believe there is no after life. Imagine spending your whole life worshiping a God so you can get into heaven, and then realising it doesn't exist.

You just restricted your life to some predetermined steps read from a book to get into a non existent paradise.

Doesn't seem worth all the prayer and effort for an after life that isn't guaranteed really

Do you've any guarantee that there's no after life and this life is the only life you've got and there's nothing after you die? Do you've any scripture which says that? Do you've a scientific prove that all this universe and human kind is all random and there's no creator behind it?

[RollinZo]

I'd rather enjoy my life now and live it to the fullest since I believe there is no after life. Imagine spending your whole life worshiping a God so you can get into heaven, and then realising it doesn't exist.

You just restricted your life to some predetermined steps read from a book to get into a non existent paradise.

Doesn't seem worth all the prayer and effort for an after life that isn't guaranteed really

In my opinion you can enjoy your life with praying...How much it will take 30 minutes in the whole day? or maybe 1 hour as max, then remains 23 hours so what? 23 hours not enough to enjoy your life? sometime the prayer doesn't take so much time, every praye take from 3 or 2 minutes so as max we can set it as 15 minutes per day..

Lol, it's just 15 minutes or 1hour as max, so you can enjoy the rest..What you will lose if you pray every day for sometime it's not that much...Also remember that's paradise can be real and can be false. It's 1hour per day to get in paradise if it's real but if it's false you didn't lose that much it's just 1 hour per day and remember it can be real so you can win and enjoy yourslef there!

Religion restricts your experiences by making them sins

You can't eat certain foods, can't eat during specific times, can't date whoever you want whenever you want, can't masturbate and if your a woman can't wear whatever you want.

It's not just the time it takes to pray and go to church, its the boundaries you need to abide by which I dislike

Aha, got your point thanks

I hope to hear your answer about Greatsan's questions. I wanted to ask these questions but i couldn't find the right words. ^.^

[OsamaAbouelhassan]

@Stephen

Exactly, let's talk about religion restrictions first, in Islam for example (I'll name some examples), alcohol is forbidden and drinking it is a sin, Islam instructions and healthy lives sharing the road, alcohol causes heart disturbance with time and causes other health issues, besides that, as long as you're drunk, you're not aware of the surroundings, I think many accidents of drunk people lead to their deaths took place already, also you can say words to someone that can shock them, God wants your happiness and health.

Why is sleeping with a girl without being married to her forbidden in Islam? Firstly, this leads to family issues, usually the girl gets pregnant, the guy doesn't accept the child as his own and so on, secondly, this can cause diseases, usually in such cases, it's all about feeling the fun when you don't know who's she, is she having some disease that you can be infected with and etc, there are more reasons why it's forbidden but I think I failed to prove that this one is a wrong doing based on logic in the first place, anyways, on the other hand, Islam doesn't disallow marriage, in fact Islam wants marriage to be the relationship status between every man and woman, first of all and most importantly that it's based on making things public, has certain circumstances which you don't need to know as they shouldn't make a difference, secondly, offically the woman you slept with is your wife and not some random girl, and the coming child is yours and you won't be willing to give him away and so on


These are 2 illustrated examples ..


Now let's talk about the existence of an after life or no, first of all, science has reached that earth is moving towards destruction sometime in the future, so there is an end and humanity will be over someday, secondly, why we Muslims avoid some food/habits .. etc? That's the test me and you are in currently in, you choose to believe or not, you choose to commit sins or not, you avoid sins and follow the instructions, you win in the afterlife, bearing in mind that the afterlife is the last stage and the infinite one, and Paradise according to Quran is better than this life GREATLY, Allah resembles in Quran this stage of life as something really not valuable, can't remember it exactly to be honest, this whole life is about choosing wisely.

Praying isn't to waste your time at all, you don't to pray all day as you stated, but in general, praying is the best religious task, because you talk to Allah, you ask for mercy, you ask for support, but the fact you imagine you're talking to Allah and knowing he is the only one who can relief the pressure and asking for forgiveness in fear makes praying not a regular task or some activity, it has big mental influence.

I can say more and more but I think I wasn't clear enough though, so if you're interested, refer to a well known person who can explain things more clearly and less complex than I did.

[StephenKelly]

first of all and most importantly that it's based on making things public, has certain circumstances which you don't need to know as they shouldn't make a difference,

I would like to know the bold text actually. The more i know about your culture, the easier it is to understand your point of view.

[StephenKelly]

I'd rather enjoy my life now and live it to the fullest since I believe there is no after life. Imagine spending your whole life worshiping a God so you can get into heaven, and then realising it doesn't exist.

You just restricted your life to some predetermined steps read from a book to get into a non existent paradise.

Doesn't seem worth all the prayer and effort for an after life that isn't guaranteed really

Do you've any guarantee that there's no after life and this life is the only life you've got and there's nothing after you die? Do you've any scripture which says that? Do you've a scientific prove that all this universe and human kind is all random and there's no creator behind it?

Obviously not, but I would rather not waste my time and restrict my experiences on the off chances that their is some sort of after life because it goes against all logic (opinion)

If there is no afterlife, don't you feel like you may have missed out on actually living your life the way you want and not the way some book or government forced you too?

[OsamaAbouelhassan]

first of all and most importantly that it's based on making things public, has certain circumstances which you don't need to know as they shouldn't make a difference,

I would like to know the bold text actually. The more i know about your culture, the easier it is to understand your point of view.

Well the circumstances of marriage in Islam are the presence of 2 male witnesses from the wife's family (father and another relative like uncle, brother etc, they need to be mature, not mentally retarded( or similar diseases), if the father is dead, then 2 of the relatives, as for the man, he can get married without the presence of any of his family members, there must be a contract that the husband, wife and witnesses sign, and the the father of the wife puts his hand in the husband's hand and they are asked to repeat after the mazoon (something similar to what priests do in churches), also from the circumstances, the woman if was married before needs to wait 3 months out (so that if she was pregnant by the last man, they get to know that through the period), being muslims is a circumstance too

[Criminal]

r u downloaded??

Lmao

[DonY]

I do
Read the quran and u will know that god said alot of things which happened and will happen in future he said that before 1500 years and he knows everything
N think about how did u came how did ur father ur grand father etc
Think about who made this sky flying without any thing who gave us food to eat who gave us water who made this universe who made the planets moving in an elliptical orbit around a star.

[OsamaAbouelhassan]

@stephan, sorry I forgot, as far as I recall witnesses can be a man and 2 women(relatives), women can't be married but to one man at a time, if he dies or asks for divorce, she may marry another in 3months, men are allowed to marry up to 4 women at a time