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Post by [Lsrcr]Oggy » June 27, 2017, 3:09 pm
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[Lsrcr]Oggy wrote:
Kaosx234 wrote:
Alright, this probably will be my last reply to you unless your next post contains:
>Proof of God being unreal (as you clearly said that you are proving to us that there's no God).

Have a nice day, stay out of my hair from now.
Yes, I'm in the process of proving it by correcting the wrong beliefs of the people about the world. So far, we have succeeded in explaining the very reasons why some people believe that the God exists.

Regarding this being your last post, honestly I don't care. It's fine if you want to run away but I'll always be here defending science from God.
Oh and, only silly people think that it is Science vs Religion. I, myself, am a scientist alongside with Einstein, Nikola Kopernik, Sir Francis Bacon, Johannes Kepler, Galileo Galilei and way more.

If you really thought it was science vs Religion, those famous names wouldn't be religious, but sadly your mind cannot comprehend it.
I don't care what you are and whether these scientists are religious or not. I'd disagree even if it's Einstein himself who's arguing unless he has proofs of God being real.

You keep telling me that you're scientist over and over again. If you possess the same knowledge as you say you do, then all it'll take to shut my trap will be to ask me one simple question about one of the most basics of science. I'm not gonna be saying what that is now or it'd be like digging my own grave.
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Post by [Lsrcr]Oggy » June 27, 2017, 3:09 pm
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So whom do u think that protects u from daily accidents,sometimes many die in their sleep,ghosts and stress?Do u believe that there are ghosts?Mate, Gods are everywhere to protect us.So do u mean that the whole astrology is fake?
Note:Except ur Parents.
What'd I need protection from?
Death
I will die, one day. Everybody has to.
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Post by Robin » June 27, 2017, 3:12 pm
jilla123 wrote:
[Lsrcr]Oggy wrote:
jilla123 wrote:
So whom do u think that protects u from daily accidents,sometimes many die in their sleep,ghosts and stress?Do u believe that there are ghosts?Mate, Gods are everywhere to protect us.So do u mean that the whole astrology is fake?
Note:Except ur Parents.
What'd I need protection from?
Death
We've science to save us from death, done it plenty of times and always worked so far for me and my entire atheist family (including surviving mid-stage cancer and a LOT of nasty stuff)
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Post by aegodd » June 27, 2017, 3:16 pm
[Lsrcr]Oggy wrote:
1. I see you're not familiar with the concept of space-time. The Big Bang did not only create matter, it created the space itself. The Big Bang happened right where you're sitting.

2. Use Google.

3. Both evolution and adaptation are linked. We're not talking about a sudden change in the environment which kills the organisms right away in a short time. It's more like a long-term event.

4. If we had enough technologies to completely program the genetics of a cell from scratch, it would've been possible.
1. You didn't answer the question, you just somewhat clarified your stance on my last question. As a whole, I'll take that as "I don't know".

2. Oh, you're telling me to google it? You think that evolution is a fact, but you can't give me one example of observable evidence of evolution, of the change of kinds? Okay...

3. Give me evidence that supports your claim that a kind evolves into another kind due to environmental changes in the long term. By the way, adaptation does not result in evolution, in the change of kinds.

4. Higlighting your "if" here. Because it isn't and won't be possible. Ever. I guess I have to blindly believe that a seed or a rose (or literally anything else) unintelligently came to be, from nothing, by means of evoluuuuuution. :roll:

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Post by aegodd » June 27, 2017, 3:23 pm
[Lsrcr]Oggy wrote:
Kaosx234 wrote:
[Lsrcr]Oggy wrote:
Yes, I'm in the process of proving it by correcting the wrong beliefs of the people about the world. So far, we have succeeded in explaining the very reasons why some people believe that the God exists.

Regarding this being your last post, honestly I don't care. It's fine if you want to run away but I'll always be here defending science from God.
Oh and, only silly people think that it is Science vs Religion. I, myself, am a scientist alongside with Einstein, Nikola Kopernik, Sir Francis Bacon, Johannes Kepler, Galileo Galilei and way more.

If you really thought it was science vs Religion, those famous names wouldn't be religious, but sadly your mind cannot comprehend it.
I don't care what you are and whether these scientists are religious or not. I'd disagree even if it's Einstein himself who's arguing unless he has proofs of God being real.
Then what? What would you do? It's a fact that a lot of people wouldn't believe in God even if there was solid, tactile and physically visible proof of God's existence. Trust me.

All that separates one from knowing that there truly is a God and thinking that God isn't real are two things: pride and arrogance. Nothing more, nothing less. Feel free to mock me on that one. I don't mind.

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Post by jilla123 » June 27, 2017, 3:35 pm
[Lsrcr]Oggy wrote:
jilla123 wrote:
[Lsrcr]Oggy wrote:
What'd I need protection from?
Death
I will die, one day. Everybody has to.
That's a age death.
I'm saying about Mortality death.
Many have died in their sleep thank God that u didn't die.
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Post by jilla123 » June 27, 2017, 3:42 pm
Robin wrote:
jilla123 wrote:
[Lsrcr]Oggy wrote:
What'd I need protection from?
Death
We've science to save us from death, done it plenty of times and always worked so far for me and my entire atheist family (including surviving mid-stage cancer and a LOT of nasty stuff)
So u mean that Modern science is better than the old Aurvetha things which can cure Cancer cells in min.But now they use Isotopes like Cobalt to cure Cancer cells.Believe me how do u think that the old herbal plants for found or made? It's Good who made these kind of Herbal plants to ensure the living organisms in the world live in peace.
Mate Life is like this server.Admins are considered as God's and players are the normal people who live here.The Hackers are Spirits,Ghosts.The God's who made many things to enjoy with our life like robbing,dueling(in this game).They ensure that the players are happy or not. Life is like this server.Think about it.
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Post by Robin » June 27, 2017, 3:44 pm
jilla123 wrote:
[Lsrcr]Oggy wrote:
jilla123 wrote:
Death
I will die, one day. Everybody has to.
That's a age death.
I'm saying about Mortality death.
Many have died in their sleep thank God that u didn't die.
Ain't gonna thank god at all, shouldn't know for what.
Death of old age happens to everyone, death because of another natural cause also happens no matter if you pray or not.

Next time you're sick, try praying instead of using the medical care science got you.
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So u mean that Modern science is better than the old Aurvetha things which can cure Cancer cells in min.But now they use Cobalt to cure Cancer cells.Believe me how do u think that the old herbal plants for found or made? It's Good who made these kind of Herbal plants to ensure the living organisms in the world live in peace.
Mate Life is like this server.Admins are considered as God's and players are the normal people who live here.The Hackers are Spirits,Ghosts.The God's who made many things to enjoy with our life like robbing,dueling(in this game).They ensure that the players are happy or not. Life is like this server.Think about it.
Yeah modern science is way better then these old plants.
The only plant we Dutchies want is weed.
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Post by jilla123 » June 27, 2017, 3:47 pm
Robin wrote:
jilla123 wrote:
[Lsrcr]Oggy wrote:
I will die, one day. Everybody has to.
That's a age death.
I'm saying about Mortality death.
Many have died in their sleep thank God that u didn't die.
Ain't gonna thank god at all, shouldn't know for what.
Death of old age happens to everyone, death because of another natural cause also happens no matter if you pray or not.

Next time you're sick, try praying instead of using the medical care science got you.
jilla123 wrote:
So u mean that Modern science is better than the old Aurvetha things which can cure Cancer cells in min.But now they use Cobalt to cure Cancer cells.Believe me how do u think that the old herbal plants for found or made? It's Good who made these kind of Herbal plants to ensure the living organisms in the world live in peace.
Mate Life is like this server.Admins are considered as God's and players are the normal people who live here.The Hackers are Spirits,Ghosts.The God's who made many things to enjoy with our life like robbing,dueling(in this game).They ensure that the players are happy or not. Life is like this server.Think about it.
Yeah modern science is way better then these old plants.
The only plant we Dutchies want is weed.
Quote for first one : I'll try to pray to God when I get sick need time but I'll use herbal plants like neem okay?
Mate at that time there were no diseases coz of fresh air,Healthy food, but now?What do u think about this?
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Post by [Lsrcr]Oggy » June 27, 2017, 4:33 pm
aegodd wrote:
[Lsrcr]Oggy wrote:
1. I see you're not familiar with the concept of space-time. The Big Bang did not only create matter, it created the space itself. The Big Bang happened right where you're sitting.

2. Use Google.

3. Both evolution and adaptation are linked. We're not talking about a sudden change in the environment which kills the organisms right away in a short time. It's more like a long-term event.

4. If we had enough technologies to completely program the genetics of a cell from scratch, it would've been possible.
1. You didn't answer the question, you just somewhat clarified your stance on my last question. As a whole, I'll take that as "I don't know".

2. Oh, you're telling me to google it? You think that evolution is a fact, but you can't give me one example of observable evidence of evolution, of the change of kinds? Okay...

3. Give me evidence that supports your claim that a kind evolves into another kind due to environmental changes in the long term. By the way, adaptation does not result in evolution, in the change of kinds.

4. Higlighting your "if" here. Because it isn't and won't be possible. Ever. I guess I have to blindly believe that a seed or a rose (or literally anything else) unintelligently came to be, from nothing, by means of evoluuuuuution. :roll:
1. We shoulsn't see space and time as two separate things. The point before the Big Bang was a space-time singularity. Space and time was at a stop. It's a common misconception that the Big Bang shot out matter into empty space. The Big Bang created the space itself. The space and time has been expanding ever since. So the Big Bang literally took place where you are sitting right now. So, if you want to know where in the sky you need to look at to see the Big Bang, the answer is anywhere, as long as the light isn't or wasn't blocked by any objects. The slace has been expanding faster than the speed of light. Isn't it obvious that the expansion started somewhere? It's a mathematical certainity.

2. Every organisms that you see around you are the creations of evolution. If that's not the answer you were looking for, then be more specific with your question like what kind of examples you are asking for.

3. Imagine that the temperature of the atmosphere was raising at a rate of 1 degree celcius per thousand years. And suddenly one of beetles living on earth was subjected to a variation which helped it survive the heat. It's only a raise of 1 degree celcius so no beetles would be harmed. Both the normal beetles and our new beetle would reproduce and produce their young ones. But after a few thousand years, the temperature would be so high for the normal beetles to survive but everything'd seem fine for the new beetles. Thus, the older ones would die out and the new ones survive with a mechanism for surviving in high temperatues.

4. I don't agree. A cell listens to its genetical information stored inside its DNA. So, if we developed the technology to write into the DNA of a cell, we'd be able to grow the cell the way we want. We just don't have the means necessary for it yet.
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