God's Existence

[aegodd]

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2. Every organisms that you see around you are the creations of evolution. If that's not the answer you were looking for, then be more specific with your question like what kind of examples you are asking for.

3. Imagine that the temperature of the atmosphere was raising at a rate of 1 degree celcius per thousand years. And suddenly one of beetles living on earth was subjected to a variation which helped it survive the heat. It's only a raise of 1 degree celcius so no beetles would be harmed. Both the normal beetles and our new beetle would reproduce and produce their young ones. But after a few thousand years, the temperature would be so high for the normal beetles to survive but everything'd seem fine for the new beetles. Thus, the older ones would die out and the new ones survive with a mechanism for surviving in high temperatues.

4. I don't agree. A cell listens to its genetical information stored inside its DNA. So, if we developed the technology to write into the DNA of a cell, we'd be able to grow the cell the way we want. We just don't have the means necessary for it yet.

2.I asked for an example of observable evidence of evolution, of the change of kinds? Like...for example.. how a hyena evolved from a cat (first there was a cat, and then you have a hyena too, that evolved from a cat). So, how and why different families of the Feliformia suborder came to be. I guess you get what I mean.

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And suddenly one of beetles living on earth was subjected to a variation which helped it survive the heat.

How, why and when was it subjected to a variation? What exactly would happen to the beetle on a biological level? And what exactly does variation in this sense mean?

4. We actually already have that techonology (overwriting the DNA of a cell), yet we aren't able to make a seed or rose from nothing. How do you explain that?

[[Lsrcr]Oggy]

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2. Every organisms that you see around you are the creations of evolution. If that's not the answer you were looking for, then be more specific with your question like what kind of examples you are asking for.

3. Imagine that the temperature of the atmosphere was raising at a rate of 1 degree celcius per thousand years. And suddenly one of beetles living on earth was subjected to a variation which helped it survive the heat. It's only a raise of 1 degree celcius so no beetles would be harmed. Both the normal beetles and our new beetle would reproduce and produce their young ones. But after a few thousand years, the temperature would be so high for the normal beetles to survive but everything'd seem fine for the new beetles. Thus, the older ones would die out and the new ones survive with a mechanism for surviving in high temperatues.

4. I don't agree. A cell listens to its genetical information stored inside its DNA. So, if we developed the technology to write into the DNA of a cell, we'd be able to grow the cell the way we want. We just don't have the means necessary for it yet.

2.I asked for an example of observable evidence of evolution, of the change of kinds? Like...for example.. how a hyena evolved from a cat (first there was a cat, and then you have a hyena too, that evolved from a cat). So, how and why different families of the Feliformia suborder came to be. I guess you get what I mean.

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And suddenly one of beetles living on earth was subjected to a variation which helped it survive the heat.

How, why and when was it subjected to a variation? What exactly would happen to the beetle on a biological level? And what exactly does variation in this sense mean?

4. We actually already have that techonology (overwriting the DNA of a cell), yet we aren't able to make a seed or rose from nothing. How do you explain that?

2. I can't understand what you're asking. Could you elaborate it more?

3. All biological processes are not perfect. Errors occur. These errors are the causes of variations. Processes like DNA copying, gametogenesis, etc are bound to have errors.

4. No, we do not have enough technology for that. The cutting edge science that we have at present in that field is called CRISPR which is based on how a bacteria defends against viruses. You can read more about it on WikiPedia. Another old method is using Vectors which are viruses that are not harmful to the animal's body and carry the genes we want to the animal's body. Then these viruses mix the DNA they have with the DNA of the organism. Right now, we can't build the genetics of a cell from scratch using the present technologies.

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2. I think I know what you're asking. It's the same case as of the beetles in the scenario I explained above. When the temperature was not high enough for the normal beetles to die, both normal beetles and the new beetles existed.

[Zer0]

I very well do, but do you?

Alright, this probably will be my last reply to you unless your next post contains:
>Proof of God being unreal (as you clearly said that you are proving to us that there's no God).

Have a nice day, stay out of my hair from now.

> SOLID proof of god being real, give it and I'll join Islam.

Meh, I don't really care if you join Islam or Satanism, but I'll just reply nevertheless. I believe in God for many reasons but many of them you wouldn't understand and I wouldn't mention them anyways as you are not me or in any way related to me. One proof that comes to my mind at the moment is, how did the big bang begin. If the big bang created all this colossal amount of matter, then that matter must have originated from somewhere. Energy cannot be wasted or created, same thing with matter. Some say it was the work of dark matter or antimatter, but still all of this proves nothing to how that much energy and matter could be created and compressed in such a small space. It must include the work of something powerful, and in my case of beliefs, God. Fun fact, did I mention the big bang was mentioned in the Qu'ran? It's impossible for one to know that or even to think of that as there were no high powered telescope at the time to be able to showcase that the universe is expanding, hell, there weren't even telescopes at the time.

[OsamaAbouelhassan]

@Oggy @Kaosx

This stage of life is a test for the path you choose to take, according to Islam, either follow Islamic instructions which ensure you live a happy and healthy life for this stage of life until you die, then if Allah wills so, you join Heaven. The other path is the vice versa of the first one, but it's logical because Islamic instructions are linked to your health and happiness, same for the others you're releated to, for example, A certain thing is a sin in Islam, you indeed will find a logical reason that your mind can accept which is maybe causing diseases or hurting others feelings and so on. Your judge in choosing is your mind, all what you do till you die whether good or evil is all gathered in a book that you take after you are brought back to life, but as I said, it's all one link, some sins like for example watching porn, you can avoid it due to certain health issues AND/OR you realise that this stageisn't of life is nothing but few finite attractions and the real winning is Heaven and not the attractions of this stage (women, money, children .. etc), but I believe the other condition requires believing first

The afterlife is the immortality life, based on God's will and your doings in this life, you go to Heaven or Hell or both, the book containing all your doings will be given to you bearing in mind that this book doesn't miss anything you did back in your life.

[[Lsrcr]Joao]

It's a matter of perspectives, I can read something and the main idea I got from it is "A", meanwhile you read it and the main idea you get is "B".

[[Lsrcr]Oggy]

@Oggy @Kaosx

This stage of life is a test for the path you choose to take, according to Islam, either follow Islamic instructions which ensure you live a happy and healthy life for this stage of life until you die, then if Allah wills so, you join Heaven. The other path is the vice versa of the first one, but it's logical because Islamic instructions are linked to your health and happiness, same for the others you're releated to, for example, A certain thing is a sin in Islam, you indeed will find a logical reason that your mind can accept which is maybe causing diseases or hurting others feelings and so on. Your judge in choosing is your mind, all what you do till you die whether good or evil is all gathered in a book that you take after you are brought back to life, but as I said, it's all one link, some sins like for example watching porn, you can avoid it due to certain health issues AND/OR you realise that this stageisn't of life is nothing but few finite attractions and the real winning is Heaven and not the attractions of this stage (women, money, children .. etc), but I believe the other condition requires believing first

The afterlife is the immortality life, based on God's will and your doings in this life, you go to Heaven or Hell or both, the book containing all your doings will be given to you bearing in mind that this book doesn't miss anything you did back in your life.

And then what? You just float in heaven for the rest of your lif....ehm, afterlife?

[OsamaAbouelhassan]

@Oggy @Kaosx

This stage of life is a test for the path you choose to take, according to Islam, either follow Islamic instructions which ensure you live a happy and healthy life for this stage of life until you die, then if Allah wills so, you join Heaven. The other path is the vice versa of the first one, but it's logical because Islamic instructions are linked to your health and happiness, same for the others you're releated to, for example, A certain thing is a sin in Islam, you indeed will find a logical reason that your mind can accept which is maybe causing diseases or hurting others feelings and so on. Your judge in choosing is your mind, all what you do till you die whether good or evil is all gathered in a book that you take after you are brought back to life, but as I said, it's all one link, some sins like for example watching porn, you can avoid it due to certain health issues AND/OR you realise that this stageisn't of life is nothing but few finite attractions and the real winning is Heaven and not the attractions of this stage (women, money, children .. etc), but I believe the other condition requires believing first

The afterlife is the immortality life, based on God's will and your doings in this life, you go to Heaven or Hell or both, the book containing all your doings will be given to you bearing in mind that this book doesn't miss anything you did back in your life.

And then what? You just float in heaven for the rest of your lif....ehm, afterlife?

After life is the final stage, the immortality stage, heaven is so great that Prophet Muhammad said on behalf of Allah: "I've prepared to my good worshippers what an eye has never seen, an ear has never heard and never has been imagined by a human" , also comes in Quran in so many verses descriptions of Heaven and Hell.

[aegodd]

2. I can't understand what you're asking. Could you elaborate it more?

3. All biological processes are not perfect. Errors occur. These errors are the causes of variations. Processes like DNA copying, gametogenesis, etc are bound to have errors.

4. No, we do not have enough technology for that. The cutting edge science that we have at present in that field is called CRISPR which is based on how a bacteria defends against viruses. You can read more about it on WikiPedia. Another old method is using Vectors which are viruses that are not harmful to the animal's body and carry the genes we want to the animal's body. Then these viruses mix the DNA they have with the DNA of the organism. Right now, we can't build the genetics of a cell from scratch using the present technologies.

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2. I think I know what you're asking. It's the same case as of the beetles in the scenario I explained above. When the temperature was not high enough for the normal beetles to die, both normal beetles and the new beetles existed.

2. Firstly, that's not evolution, a change of kinds. Secondly, it's not observable. Sorry, but I can't believe in that.

3. So, a mutation is one step of evolution? For a mutation to be useful, the mutation should be so random that it's unimaginable. Just think about the chances it would take for a mutation to be useful. And while a mutation might be useful, what if it caused a beetle to be genetically incompatible with others of their kind, making it unable to reproduce with their kind? It (and it's mutation) would simply die.

[[Lsrcr]Oggy]

2. I can't understand what you're asking. Could you elaborate it more?

3. All biological processes are not perfect. Errors occur. These errors are the causes of variations. Processes like DNA copying, gametogenesis, etc are bound to have errors.

4. No, we do not have enough technology for that. The cutting edge science that we have at present in that field is called CRISPR which is based on how a bacteria defends against viruses. You can read more about it on WikiPedia. Another old method is using Vectors which are viruses that are not harmful to the animal's body and carry the genes we want to the animal's body. Then these viruses mix the DNA they have with the DNA of the organism. Right now, we can't build the genetics of a cell from scratch using the present technologies.

EDIT:-
2. I think I know what you're asking. It's the same case as of the beetles in the scenario I explained above. When the temperature was not high enough for the normal beetles to die, both normal beetles and the new beetles existed.

2. Firstly, that's not evolution, a change of kinds. Secondly, it's not observable. Sorry, but I can't believe in that.

3. So, a mutation is one step of evolution? For a mutation to be useful, the mutation should be so random that it's unimaginable. Just think about the chances it would take for a mutation to be useful. And while a mutation might be useful, what if it caused a beetle to be genetically incompatible with others of their kind, making it unable to reproduce with their kind? It (and it's mutation) would simply die.

2. It doesn't matter what it is as long as it explains the reasons for life and the vast diversity we see around us. I don't care if you want to believe it or not but it is the truth. If you still haven't found your answer, I wish you had asked it more clearly because I could've answered it but your question doesn't make any sense.

3. No it doesn't have to be that unimaginable. A small useful mutation is enough for evolution. If it was sk huge, then the progeny wouldn't be able to reproduce. The chances for it are very low but think about how many animals of the same specie are reproducing in the each seconds during our talks.

[Astrl]

I don't think a god exists
I think that because I'm not religious