God's Existence

[aegodd]

The thing is, believing is not related to being religious or even have a religion, your mind is the one who realises that through the surroundings whether they were facts, phenomena, space, etc .. , a closer look around is the key.

I do not agree with religion.

I believe it's something made up for people to believe in for whatever reasons they wish.

I believe the theory of evolution because it's the most logical one to me.

It might be called the 'evolution theory', but we've got some solid evidence to support it

Like?

Give me one example of observable (something I can observe) evidence of evolution, of the change of kinds.

[Robin]

Do you guys even read anything else then the Quran?
We can literally monitor how babies are formed in real time and even do it in laboratories.

@post above
Fossils, Google it pls

[aegodd]

@post above
Fossils, Google it pls

1. You didn't answer my question.
2. Fossils don't tell me anything about evolution, and neither does carbon dating. Learning that a living snail's shell was dated as approx. 3000 years old is enough for me to not take carbon dating as a reliable method.
3. Scientific method is observable, repeatable and testable. Fossils don't help me much in that regard.
4. I can't go (apparently) millions or billions years into the past. That only leaves me with faith in what science has to say about what happened back then. I guess faith and science don't exactly go together, so... yeah.

[Cyanide]

tell me we came from nothing like mr.niceguy said ? and allah made 3 religion and when he made religion that chist or jesus whatever he said after me someone is comming called mohamed follow him and his religion and if we came from nothing and after we die we arn't gonna do anything and after that we gonna be under the ground without do anything after we did all that work in life of course we there's allah - god it's only 1 and he's not gonna tell you what you should do because he got hell - paradise after you die so he left you do anything you want follow mohamed or do anything you want

He didn't make three religions. We humans created sects not God.

yes the god made 3 religions and u can see that in quran, 1-for israel idk the name of the religion but it's for israel maybe next for christians - last for muslims or who believe in god what can i say to someone can't even understand everything when you die you will see everything and you will say i hope i go back with a time and be muslim and believe in god

[GreaTSaN]

tell me we came from nothing like mr.niceguy said ? and allah made 3 religion and when he made religion that chist or jesus whatever he said after me someone is comming called mohamed follow him and his religion and if we came from nothing and after we die we arn't gonna do anything and after that we gonna be under the ground without do anything after we did all that work in life of course we there's allah - god it's only 1 and he's not gonna tell you what you should do because he got hell - paradise after you die so he left you do anything you want follow mohamed or do anything you want

He didn't make three religions. We humans created sects not God.

yes the god made 3 religions and u can see that in quran, 1-for israel idk the name of the religion but it's for israel maybe next for christians - last for muslims or who believe in god what can i say to someone can't even understand everything when you die you will see everything and you will say i hope i go back with a time and be muslim and believe in god

Go and read the Qur'an again. There's no different religion for Israel, Christians or Muslims. God is one and he's same for all. There can't be multiple God governing same kingdom.

[[Lsrcr]Oggy]

Tell me about your beliefs and the evolution theory.

How about you tell me about your beliefs that God placed you on the earth?

People who are "placed" on the earth still have parents who think Mary in the bible was a virgin.
Yes, of course she was.

I gather that your parents have never had sex with each other and you magically just appeared out of no where?
I gather you've never had "the talk" with your parents yet?

Yeah.. your parents had sex with each other and you were magically created on your mother womb. And you were magically or randomly shaped. And your organs were magically or randomly shaped. And you got a brain which was magically or randomly created. And you got well-protected DNA with dozens of data stored on it which was magically or randomly inserted. And you randomly got one mouth, one nose and two eyes which every human being gets randomly and this random number doesn't change because its random. And randomly you got five fingers and this random number doesn't change because its random. And randomly you got the ability to hear, sense, process, see, speak. And you randomly got the ability to talk. And you randomly got a sexual organ which randomly creates another human being. And you got a heart which is also random and pumps blood. And you die which is also random. Interesting!

The only thing random about it is which sperm (containing X chromosome or Y chromosome) fuses with the zygote and the small mistakes that happen during DNA replication, gametogenesis and fertilization (as no biological processes are 100% perfect) which is the reason why siblings don't look alike. If these random mistakes were so huge, then you'd have what's known as genetic disorders.

[Astrl]

The only thing random about it is which sperm (containing X chromosome or Y chromosome) fuses with the zygote and the small mistakes that happen during DNA replication, gametogenesis and fertilization (as no biological processes are 100% perfect) which is the reason why siblings don't look alike. If these random mistakes were so huge, then you'd have what's known as genetic disorders.

Thus why incest is illegal and causes so many problems.

Not just that, also that it's morally wrong...

[[Lsrcr]Oggy]

2. It doesn't matter what it is as long as it explains the reasons for life and the vast diversity we see around us. I don't care if you want to believe it or not but it is the truth. If you still haven't found your answer, I wish you had asked it more clearly because I could've answered it but your question doesn't make any sense.

3. No it doesn't have to be that unimaginable. A small useful mutation is enough for evolution. If it was sk huge, then the progeny wouldn't be able to reproduce. The chances for it are very low but think about how many animals of the same specie are reproducing in the each seconds during our talks.

2. The new beetles you mentioned are still beetles, that is not change of kinds, which is what evolution is about. It doesn't explain the reasons for life and the vast diversity we see around us, that's the thing. I asked it as clearly as I could and I'm sure my question made perfect sense.

3. What if the mutation happens on the regular cells (the ones with full number of chromosomes) and not on the gametes? In that case, the mutation won't be passed on. And what if a mutation on the gametes occurs, that alters the number of chromosomes in the gamete, making the organism unable to reproduce (taking in consideration that it is a multicellular organism)? When you examine possible evolutionary evidence, how are you able to know what exactly happened and how it supports the theory of evolution?

2. These are still beetles but if further variations occur over and over, these beetles would look very different from others and we'd call them a new specie. This is the reason for the vast diversity of organisms around us.

3. If mutation took place on regular cells, then it wouldn't be passed on. If the mutation is too huge, then the organism wouldn't be able to reproduce and it'd simply die. We're talking about small mutations that occur on germ cells, only they are passed on. We can prove it by comparing what changes took place in organisms and the its reason. For example, if there is a heat shield on the beetles, then we'll look at the history of the earth. We'll find out that there was a condition of high temperature so the beetles evolved a heat-shield for survival.

[[Lsrcr]Oggy]

I do not agree with religion.

I believe it's something made up for people to believe in for whatever reasons they wish.

I believe the theory of evolution because it's the most logical one to me.

It might be called the 'evolution theory', but we've got some solid evidence to support it

Like?

Give me one example of observable (something I can observe) evidence of evolution, of the change of kinds.

1) Take a huge box with food and water.
2) Put a few mice in the box.
3) Have fun playing with the weather and conditions of the box.
4) Observe what happens over millions of years.

[RTGX]

By the way incest was mentioned in the holy Quran that it's not allowed , and as Quran is away before science so, i know science talked more about it but yea dude it was mentioned as it's not allowed in the Quran that make any sense ?