Nerfing the S.W.A.T. bomb

[Sowhat]

Buy jam swat bomb, will make your life easier.
Buy VIP package, makes life even way more easier.
Use /loc on SWAT members to know their locations if they used /smh
For roadblock, even though it has some kind of delay in placing and it forces the user to do an animation which he can be killed at doing it. you can simply ignore all that by not rushing toward the SWAT.

Any OP things left?

[JohnCarer]

It's indeed OP and I'd like to support this suggestion. Makes no sense to get oneshot killed, especially when you're in a vehicle. Even RPG takes 3-4 hits to kill and it's very hard to aim+limited by strict rules.

[Geri]

There is a way to nerf the swat bomb. Type /jsb.

[BeaTen.]

It's indeed OP and I'd like to support this suggestion. Makes no sense to get oneshot killed, especially when you're in a vehicle. Even RPG takes 3-4 hits to kill and it's very hard to aim+limited by strict rules.

Yes I do agree with what you said but let's not forget that army has hydra, sea sparrow, rhino and whatnot? We only have SWAT bomb and roadblock and still people call it OP..

[Nikola]

You people are starting to sound like a broken record.

First let's begin by stating that the only person "crying" here is you.
How can you possibly be so ignorant and rant about the bomb, just because you wish to gain benefits from it. It is not my problem you lack the skills to avoid being killed by the bomb, and trust me there are many ridiculously easy ways to avoid death. Even I, who always play in S.W.A.T. skin know them.

I will first tell you that bomb is actually not as OP as you think. You should know this since you've been a S.W.A.T. member, as someone mentioned.

Bomb has major issue with detonator, which tends to get glitchy, and bugged. It often happends that it simply disappears and fails to detonate the bomb. Not to mention that sometimes it has delayed detonation, again, aiding criminals.

Secondly, bomb is tightly connected to ping, meaning if you have a normal ping, and try to bomb suspect with 100+ ping (majority of players have above 100 ping), you will not be able to kill him due to lag.

Now you also mentioned how we have other features which are too OP, and let me educate you about them as well.

Command /svwm is used to inflate tires every 10 seconds, in one minute duration, and provide the vehicle with Nitro. Now, this absolutely doesn't make the car bulletproof as you said, since it is moslty used for 5-10 seconds just so that the car can be handeled on the road, due to popped tires. And it has a cool-off period. Car usually get's destroyed anyways, i matter of a few seconds, because this command doesn't at all effect the car HP.

/smh command hides the map markers, again, it lasts for only five minutes, and it has a huge cool off time, plus only high ranks can use it, so once again, I simply cannot beliebe that you call this OP as well. S.W.A.T. doesn't fall from the sky, we use road, same one as you, so instead of whining, why don't you pay more attention to the road, so that you can see us coming.

/rb command is mostly used as a cover system, and for blocking the vehicles, or crashing a biker, I am hoping that this isn't too OP for you too, because then I wouldn't consider you a sane person.

Now let's compare amry, which has incredible weponary, from granades, rocked launchers, tanks, hydras, hunters, etc. You do realize that one or two hits from those vehicles also result in your death, right?
Now you don't complain about that, all of that, you just so happened to pick a S.W.A.T. bomb as an OP weapon, even though it ia bugged, and very difficult to use properly.

You also fail to see that criminals have been provided with many gadgets to subue LEOs, and their tactics. Your ignorance truly amazes me, because your goal here is to nerf it, making it literally useless, so that you could happily rain hell on S.W.A.T. Well, you see that would be too OP from our perspective, and it is all about balance.

Next time, first try to ask around, and educate yourself about what you are talkig about, before you create topic like this.

[Shiny]

/jsb

[bassel_faw]

This bomb is really op as deadly said it must be nerfed the past one it was more easier of course all the swat members wont be with deadly cause they have this advantage of the bomb and you got also roadblock and you can have 30players cop hunting at lv just go lsa and use it all will die the distance is far u can easy kill with this bomb it can shutdown any cop hunt in this server and when swat use it it doesnt affect to innocent players or Leo's but everything in army can damge every kind of players
And ur job is to drag players and ar and its not easy to buy jammer and if you find a group of cophunters its simple/bk and you can easy call the army they got all the requirement to take care of the cophunters cause its their job but you talked about if u r solo and there is cophunter why you dont say if there is 1wanted killing cops and you got 10swats and still using bomb it doesnt make any sense it must be nerfed

[Nikola]

This bomb is really op as deadly said it must be nerfed the past one it was more easier of course all the swat members wont be with deadly cause they have this advantage of the bomb and you got also roadblock and you can have 30players cop hunting at lv just go lsa and use it all will die the distance is far u can easy kill with this bomb it can shutdown any cop hunt in this server and when swat use it it doesnt affect to innocent players or Leo's but everything in army can damge every kind of players
And ur job is to drag players and ar and its not easy to buy jammer and if you find a group of cophunters its simple/bk and you can easy call the army they got all the requirement to take care of the cophunters cause its their job but you talked about if u r solo and there is cophunter why you dont say if there is 1wanted killing cops and you got 10swats and still using bomb it doesnt make any sense it must be nerfed

Wow, you also failed to read what has been said, and chose to be ignorant because you want to rob/rape without any obstructions by police.

Having your brilliant brain power, tell me, how does a single S.W.A.T. member defeat a group of 5 mech-cop hunters, who are constantly reparing the vehicle, and 4 of them are shooting at that one S.W.A.T.? Please elaborate and explain to me the ways I can defeat them, and drag all five of then, because, after all, my job is to drag, not kill as you said. Would you suggest I use hacks? Or do you have something else in mind?

Army can't harm civilians with their explosives, and no we do not use bomb on single player, unless he is in mountain bike, or if he is using driveby that cannot be contained.

Stop being selfish, and mad at S.W.A.T. team just because you lack skills to defeat it. Any sane person woukd know that you cannot beat someone who is in a group, if you're going solo. Team with other cop hunters, and try to kill S.W.A.T., see how that works for you.

[[Lsrcr]Jobin]

It's indeed OP and I'd like to support this suggestion. Makes no sense to get oneshot killed, especially when you're in a vehicle. Even RPG takes 3-4 hits to kill and it's very hard to aim+limited by strict rules.

+1
Army grenades and RPG will make damage to the soldier itself and the people standing near it. So we can't just throw it anywhere , there are rules. Swat bomb doesn't make any single damage to the swat even he detonate it in front of him, so they can simply use it without any restriction. That doesn't make any sense.

[Deadly]

Yall SWAT members not even reading what I typed, so stop giving your shit opinions.

About the JSB, yes, jsb, what a cool fucking buggy device, yall acting smartasses.
JSB is like fucking useless when it comes to the bomb, it's effect doesn't last long enough, it's buggy and we can only use it once and then go to the end of the world to refill that shit.
You didn't even try it and still talking, just shut up, I already told you, if you wanna comment here, comment facts not just shit information that you made up inorder not to nerf it.
And Ziad, actually, every LEO in this server sometimes faces 10 criminals and beats them, without your excuses.
So when you're SWAT and get in a situation as given, you don't really need a bomb to defeat them, you just need skills, that's what Nikola's talking about.


Okay Nikola, seems like you're the dumbest around here, insulting and being a good smartass. Let's start with that I spent time in SWAT twice as much as you and have ten times more experience than you, and yes, the SWAT bomb nowadays is a billion times better than it was back in the days, that's why I suggested this topic in the first place.
We are not crying or trying to make any benefits, we're just trying to make it fair for both sides.

You're talking about skills? hmmm.. What skills do you need to get close to a criminal and double click and kill him?
Skills are not the point here, smartass, when you're half a mile away from a SWAT member and still die with a double click, not only you, but the wanteds around you aswell.

The detonator's bugs are not considered, and don't always happen, they have always been there and you always can type /detonator to help you if it's bugged, I'm not that 'ignorant'.

Let's discuss your ping matter, ping has always been a problem to everyone, but you still can damage or even immediate kill the suspect if you're close enough, not half a mile away, but 'kind of' close, I have seen that many times.



/svwm hmmm, that shit is the most illogical thing in the server, it's like you have an improved /fix command every like 15 mins(?).
It does make the tires bulletproof, and that is the most fucked up thing when it comes to helping a criminal when he's between your hands.
But as I said, and still you commented about it cause you have no more shit to say and you just wanted to make your shit paragraph longer, I didn't really wanna talk about it because it doesn't affect our gameplay as much as the bomb does, but you made me do it.


/smh, hmm I still remember that, it is actually pretty cool and you deserve to have it because you need tactics.
But let's not forget that there is a suggestion being supported where you cannot locate the SWAT members when they are in the hidden(/smh) mode. And if that suggestion gets accepted, I don't really wanna see you talking shit like a smartass.
/rb is the same shit, It's not in the discussion, as I mentioned earlier, it's only about the bomb.

You cannot compare the SWAT bomb to any of the army's features actually, because it's the strongest, let's see why.
1) SWAT bomb has no restrictions or rules, you can use it on any wanted you want and where you want, and get zero damage, which makes it the most OP feature in the server, doesn't it?

2) Hard to use? Now let's be honest about this, because I want this topic full of truth and honesty, not some bullshit such as the things you're saying.
It is actually pretty easy to use, easier than using all the army features, because you only need to get close to a suspect, doesn't matter how, just get close and 2 mouse clicks, so fucking hard, can't believe that shit.

3) To be more exact, army features need more work and skill inorder to kill a suspect using them, and don't forget what I said in number 1, you get killed plenty of times trying to get a suspect using the army features, without even touching the suspect, and you also need to have a good vision on the area you're using them on, unlike SWAT BOMB.


Let's move to Criminals against the SWAT bomb.
They can't fucking help it, they can in no way avoid the SWAT bomb if the sawt member is skilled and smart, no fucking way, you can't discuss that shit cause you've never been acriminal, and if you have witnessed a criminal baiting your swat bomb, you're the one who's missing something my friend.



Hola hola, next time, don't comment bullshit and talk about things that you're sure and aware of, and be honest hehe, I know you're mature enough Nikola and I do know that you know that the SWAT bomb is too OP, but you just don't wanna lose it, eh?
I one hundred percent know what I'm talking about and what are going to be the responses to this, don't worry.


And I would expect a reply full of bullshit from you just not to lose this argument, but have my advice.
Save it.

Thank you

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